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Supplement use to fight or neutralize "Swine Flu"

funny b/c I mentioned it just last night...the pharmaceutical companies' stocks are rising and rising with it... :o

I own a bunch of stock in a company called Pure bioscience(PURE) they make SDC, which is a disinfectant that is colorless, tasteless, odorless, non-toxic, which is extremely effective(even kills MRSA). Allot of cruise ships, prisons, hospitals are all using this now.

On monday the stock went up roughly 50%..

I hope the media keeps hyping it. lol
 
You guys are funny....its all hype? So until it gets to you or your family it doesnt matter right? Then its "why didnt they give us tamiflu?!?!?!" Even though signs are leaning towards this not being as big an issue as the 1918 one, still never anything to turn from. You have to understand, this is a flu, yes. BUT, regular flu vaccines dont work alot because the "regular" flu evolves so quick. That vaccine is made off of older strands, 8-10 motnhs previous so then prepared for distribution.
This version went from only being in pig, then from pigs to humans remaining dormant, then from dormant to active and being able to go person to person. It happend of about 1-2 years i believe, but none-the less it was moderatly rapid. The initial hit in mexico hit hard, got our attention becasue as much as we like to be all american, do you realize how much of our stuff comes from there?
We are one step from a official "Pandemic" but as i stated, i dont think it is anything to worry about either guys, but its not fake so the govermant can do what consipacy you wanna think of.

Tamiflu hinders entry of the virus into the host cell and Relenza will stop it from detaching from the receptors of its host cell when it tries to leave to go to attach to another cell to infect.

Im not trying to scare anyone or fight to be right, just informing.
 
I own a bunch of stock in a company called Pure bioscience(PURE) they make SDC, which is a disinfectant that is colorless, tasteless, odorless, non-toxic, which is extremely effective(even kills MRSA). Allot of cruise ships, prisons, hospitals are all using this now.

On monday the stock went up roughly 50%..

I hope the media keeps hyping it. lol

I dont know about the one youre talking about, since it claims to be everything, but they been trying for a long time to get something to fix MRSA cases and slow its progress. Hospitals are the most in need.


MRSA is more serious than swine flu. It is easily into you through a cut and unless they do come up with a trust worthy antibiotic, itll be alot of troubles.

3-4% of the current population has it on their hands, in about 1-2ys, estimated 10%+ will have it on them.
 
i think the most effective supplement out these days for not catching swine flu would be that new muscletech product called "stay the **** in the house". works pretty well, but dont go overboard at first. take one a day in the beginning to access your tolerance to it.
 
I dont know about the one youre talking about, since it claims to be everything, but they been trying for a long time to get something to fix MRSA cases and slow its progress. Hospitals are the most in need.


MRSA is more serious than swine flu. It is easily into you through a cut and unless they do come up with a trust worthy antibiotic, itll be alot of troubles.

3-4% of the current population has it on their hands, in about 1-2ys, estimated 10%+ will have it on them.
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Check this one too(related to swine flu)
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The sky is falling!! MRSA is far from a pandemic. The ease of transmission of communicable diseases in addition to their mortality rate can certainly be a cause for concern though. The current and true pandemics of our time are not communicable diseases but conditions like obesity which lead to a higher preponderance of cardiac disease, diabetes, etc.
 
My message to the YouTube community on the Flu...Two companies will be getting a boost in revenue from this one...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSUF1f8zraE"]YouTube - Swine Flu Influenza Prevention Cure[/ame]
 
no one mentioned lean fx or lean extreme probally contains the most powerfull immune boosting ingrediant you can find.
 
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Check this one too(related to swine flu)
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Thank you for those. Although they are positive and show great progress, it is preventative. NOT to kill an infection. The MRSA one is like a cleaning agent rather than an actual drug to ingest. Also, it never lists it is able to be used on hands. Those hand sanitizers are hardly trust worthy. Once they were introduced they had "viral evolution" all over them. It only allows for the virus/bacteria to adapt to a situation and become resistant.

I think its funny people keep bringing up how its all the goverments master plan to boost a revenue. The Tamiflu and Relenza supply had been there for over a year now since its been pulled. They are ALWAYS working on thing to fight infections, diseases, virus' and bacteria...its just hardly ever presented to the community because they wont understand it or could care less.:684:
 
My message to the YouTube community on the Flu...Two companies will be getting a boost in revenue from this one...

That was a great vid to product push with...You acomplished nothing. Youre praying on the weak to benefit yourself, so you'd be no better than the goverment had this been a "fake Flu"

Not cutting at you, just saying what i think. Poor vid.
 
You guys are funny....its all hype? So until it gets to you or your family it doesnt matter right? Then its "why didnt they give us tamiflu?!?!?!" Even though signs are leaning towards this not being as big an issue as the 1918 one, still never anything to turn from. You have to understand, this is a flu, yes. BUT, regular flu vaccines dont work alot because the "regular" flu evolves so quick. That vaccine is made off of older strands, 8-10 motnhs previous so then prepared for distribution.
This version went from only being in pig, then from pigs to humans remaining dormant, then from dormant to active and being able to go person to person. It happend of about 1-2 years i believe, but none-the less it was moderatly rapid. The initial hit in mexico hit hard, got our attention becasue as much as we like to be all american, do you realize how much of our stuff comes from there?
We are one step from a official "Pandemic" but as i stated, i dont think it is anything to worry about either guys, but its not fake so the govermant can do what consipacy you wanna think of.

Tamiflu hinders entry of the virus into the host cell and Relenza will stop it from detaching from the receptors of its host cell when it tries to leave to go to attach to another cell to infect.

Im not trying to scare anyone or fight to be right, just informing.

Im telling you man, it's all hype...:dunno:

No, seriously, 2 people just got hauled in today with the freaking "swine" flu and that was in Montgomery, Alabama where I live.

So, let's see...it's making a nice circle from mexico, chi-town, NY, now alabama..i know I missed some places; however, my point is ... IT'S NOT HYPE; this is real...

I remember when people thought AIDs was all hype.
 
Thank you for those. Although they are positive and show great progress, it is preventative. NOT to kill an infection. The MRSA one is like a cleaning agent rather than an actual drug to ingest. Also, it never lists it is able to be used on hands. Those hand sanitizers are hardly trust worthy. Once they were introduced they had "viral evolution" all over them. It only allows for the virus/bacteria to adapt to a situation and become resistant.

I think its funny people keep bringing up how its all the goverments master plan to boost a revenue. The Tamiflu and Relenza supply had been there for over a year now since its been pulled. They are ALWAYS working on thing to fight infections, diseases, virus' and bacteria...its just hardly ever presented to the community because they wont understand it or could care less.:684:

Where did i say it was a drug? Not sure where you got that, from my original statement.
I own a bunch of stock in a company called Pure bioscience(PURE) they make SDC, which is a disinfectant that is colorless, tasteless, odorless, non-toxic, which is extremely effective(even kills MRSA).

We are not talking about curing diseases once contraced, no, but preventing the spread.. I would like to feel comfortable that when i walk into a hospital, i am not going to contract the swine flu, or MRSA..lol

As for hand sanitizers it is in the works. In the case of a hand sanitizer, it needs to be approved by the FDA.
Clinical studies are underway related to an Investigational New Drug (IND) application with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) by San Diego-based Therapeutics, Inc. for a hand sanitizer based upon PURE's SDC antimicrobial
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The fact that something this strong, and is very mild, is a big plus. Bleach, better watch its ass..lol
PURE`s SDC-based disinfectants have been registered by the EPA specifically for
use on children`s toys, cribs, high chairs and other sensitive areas of the home

Lastly, checking out PURE's site, it looks like they are looking at more pharmaceutical uses, specifically topical anti-microbal.
The progress of the continued development of SDC as an active pharmaceutical ingredient and the status of the IND filed with the FDA for the first commercialized product, hand sanitizer, was reviewed and discussed by Krall. Krall commented that PURE is in advanced discussions with an additional pharmaceutical development partner to pursue wound and burn care applications for SDC.


My original point, was just the fact that the stock showed a big jump, due to this swine flu.. And this stuff is very interesting, and seems to have a very, very wide variety of uses.
 
The sky is falling!! MRSA is far from a pandemic. The ease of transmission of communicable diseases in addition to their mortality rate can certainly be a cause for concern though. The current and true pandemics of our time are not communicable diseases but conditions like obesity which lead to a higher preponderance of cardiac disease, diabetes, etc.

diabetes, a pandemic?
That's reaching bro'

When you say MRSA is far from a pandemic, what if it is in 10 years, then what? You cannot wait until it becomes serious and then dash to the bat cave in a mad attempt to stop it...

If people would have taken AIDS more seriously when it first became a media "hype" machine, i believe the number of infections would be substantially less now.
 
I don't think there will be social sercurity or medicare in 2030...

I heard on the radio this morning that Elderberry is a good immune booster that helps protect against the flu

Sambucol/black elderberry kills the flu virus. Sambucol was developed in Israel, and is the original product. I don't buy anything else:

Clinical Summary

Effective in the treatment of flu

Research data from studies around the world have proven black elderberry extract to be effective in shortening the duration of influenza A and B. Below are some research highlights:

* 1995 (Zakay-Rones)- A double blind placebo controlled study was conducted during an outbreak of influenza B Panama. 93.3% of the cases treated with black elderberry compound saw a significant improvement of the symptoms. A complete cure was achieved within 2 to 3 days in nearly 90% of those treated with the black elderberry extract within two-three days, three days less than the placebo group.
* 2001 – (Barak, Halperin and Kalickman) 2 in-vitro studies have shown that extracts from black elderberry were beneficial to the stimulation of the immune system.
* 2004 –( Zakay-Rones) In a randomized, double blind, placebo controlled study, black elderberry extract was shown to significantly reduce the duration of the flu by around four days. Significantly less people who were taking the extract took pain relievers compared to the placebo group.
* 2005 –(Balasingham ) During an in-vitro study carried out in London, black elderberry extract was found to be at least 99% effective against the H5N1 strain otherwise known as Avian Bird Flu.


Effective as an immune booster

image of scientist looking through a microscopeMedical science has only recently discovered the likely basis for the elderberry’s health-giving reputation. Studies (Pietta 2000, Mateus 2004) have shown that elderberries are unusually rich in the phytochemicals known as flavonoids. Among all fruits, elderberries are the most concentrated source of anthocyanins, a class of flavonoids that act as powerful antioxidants to boost the immune system and protect the body’s cells from harm.

These anthocyanins are found in the purple pigment of black elderberries, and according to Dr. Gerhard Rechkemmer, president of Germany’s Federal Research Institute for Nutrition and Food, they have significantly greater antioxidant capacity than common antioxidants such as Vitamin C. In fact, Dr. Rechkemmer’s research has shown that the anthocyanins in black elderberry actually boost the production of cytokines, the proteins that act as messengers within our immune system, and thereby serve to enhance the body’s immune response.

Cytokines play a crucial role in the immune system’s response to disease. Cytokines work in ways very similar to hormones. They are released by immune cells into the blood stream or locally into body tissue during an immune response.

There are many different types of cytokines including interleukins, interferons and tumor necrosis factors.

Several studies have shown that extracts from the fruits of the black elderberry (Sambucus nigra) may help to activate the immune system by increasing inflammatory cytokine production. (Barak 2001, Barak2002))

Both studies above found that extracts from black elderberries helped increase the production of interleukins 6 and 8 (IL-6, IL-8) and tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNF-α). All of which have been shown to have pro-inflammatory properties in fighting infection (2,3).

One study (Barak 2002) also demonstrated that an extract of black elderberry increased the production of the anti-inflammatory cytokine Il-10.
 
Sambucol/black elderberry kills the flu virus. Sambucol was developed in Israel, and is the original product. I don't buy anything else:

I've used Sambucol with success twice in the past. Great product.

I also hear MRSA being thrown around here. Oil of Oregano has been shown to kill MRSA, Strep, Listeria, Salmonella, E-Coli, and even VRE (Vanocomycin-Resistant Enterococci) pretty much on contact
 
Im telling you man, it's all hype...:dunno:

No, seriously, 2 people just got hauled in today with the freaking "swine" flu and that was in Montgomery, Alabama where I live.

So, let's see...it's making a nice circle from mexico, chi-town, NY, now alabama..i know I missed some places; however, my point is ... IT'S NOT HYPE; this is real...

I remember when people thought AIDs was all hype.

More people have died of other flus since people started talking about swine flu than have been INFECTED with swine flu, and we still have one fatality only and it was a child from mexico. With 35000+ a year dying from it, that means over 100 a DAY die from the assorted other flus....

Its not that its not a real flu, but the importance of it is being overhyped to keep peoples minds off other things. Politicians always look for crisis to use to keep peoples minds off our long term issues, and push their agenda. Bush used 9/11 that way, Obama has had a field day so far. I mean seriously, managing to get an income tax dodger put in charge of the IRS in the name of "financial crisis"?
 
Another thing I heard on the radio yesterday:

The gov't purchased there stockpile of Tamiflu three years ago, guess what the shelf life of this Tamiflu that they purchased is??

They said that it is 3 years and is about to pass its experation date in a few months.

I don't know if this is true though, I just now tried to find some stuff online about it, but I couldn't find anything easily and I don't have enough time to do a deep search...
 
I'm giving two tidbits of information to people that will decrease their chance of getting sick. Period. Preying on the weak? Hardly, although if someone's immune system is weak, why wouldn't you provide them with something that is going to strengthen them?
 
To all the people here who are completely relaxing about the swine flu due to media "scare tactics" I will say to you: Influenza is a very real, and a very dangerous virus. Go research the "Spanish Flu" pandemic of 1918 (worldwide death toll between 20 - 100 million people). Many flu viruses are mutated descendants of this original and horrifying disease. Anytime a new strain is out there, it is a major cause for concern. TS is smart in wanting to know ways to protect himself.

On the other hand, people who are thinking this is the end of the world are probably being too extreme. There have been many flu outbreaks in the past century and in some cases (1976 swine flu for example) the "vaccine" has been found to be more harmful than the virus itself!

Bottom line: wash your hands :)


In 1918 the flu killed so many people because even things like fluid replacement weren't yet common. Worrying about the flu is ridiculous, unless you are a toddler or elderly. I'm actually planning a trip to central america in the next month. You would do yourself a favor by not reading the newspaper or watching the news or reading internet news sites so often.

But yeah, wash your hands often with soap and water or alcohol and you'll be fine.
 
More people have died of other flus since people started talking about swine flu than have been INFECTED with swine flu, and we still have one fatality only and it was a child from mexico. With 35000+ a year dying from it, that means over 100 a DAY die from the assorted other flus....

Its not that its not a real flu, but the importance of it is being overhyped to keep peoples minds off other things. Politicians always look for crisis to use to keep peoples minds off our long term issues, and push their agenda. Bush used 9/11 that way, Obama has had a field day so far. I mean seriously, managing to get an income tax dodger put in charge of the IRS in the name of "financial crisis"?

How does the fact that people who were already infected with another strand, dying, have to do with people's right to clarification of swine flu?

I am talking in terms of the government's obligation to make the public aware of any issues which may cause an epidemiological threat. I do not care about the theorist and their claims of espionage and cover-ups ...

Are you saying that there should have never been a mention of this issue? But, if they should have then how does one measure to what extent should the 'hype' be carried? How can anyone say what is adequate and what is over hyping?
 
imprezivr6, i didnt mean to seem like i was saying you meant it was a drug. I was just saying it was good progress for sure, now we need an inernal method to fix the infections.

The whole goverment thing is RIDICULOUS. I like how conspiracy theorists(sp?) only believe what they like to hear.

The shelf life of tamiflu is 3 years. BUT the supply was made about 2-3 ago, then was pulled off shelves last year. People were popping it left and right, allowing the virus' to gain an ability to evolve past the drug. So then we would be waiting another x amount of years waiting for the new one.


So for those you you in dis-belief of the new flu we face....do you get shots for the "old" one?

Also id like to point out....this swine flu just started....everyone keeps saying, " you know how many people die each year of the regular flu?" Yea, and thats why we are trying to stop this one. Do you know how many months are in a year!?!?! we have been through almost 2 now i think, that leaves 10(for those of you with disability)

Do you think its the same flu shot every year? NO every "season" thy make a new one, every season people still get the flu....hmmmmm....


My micro teacher took a poll in her classes, it was about the shots.

67 kids got the shot, 45 have not(112 were asked) 40 of the 67 who got the shot GOT THE FLU. 33 of the 45 who had not got the shot DID NOT get the flu. I know this is an extremely small sample but you get the idea...
 
How does the fact that people who were already infected with another strand, dying, have to do with people's right to clarification of swine flu?

I am talking in terms of the government's obligation to make the public aware of any issues which may cause an epidemiological threat. I do not care about the theorist and their claims of espionage and cover-ups ...

Are you saying that there should have never been a mention of this issue? But, if they should have then how does one measure to what extent should the 'hype' be carried? How can anyone say what is adequate and what is over hyping?

Do you think the government makes the public aware of all issues that cause a threat? No, they dont. But again, i'm not at all saying the government was complicit in any over-hyping, that is all the media's fault. Running tickers perpetually and it being talked about every 5 minutes on CNN was ridiculous. But its anything that the liberal media can do to keep attention away from the president and congress driving our nation into bankruptcy. And our government will use this just like they use every "crisis" (like 200 people having the sniffles and a fever is a crisis) as an excuse to spend more money and broaden government control.
 
How does the fact that people who were already infected with another strand, dying, have to do with people's right to clarification of swine flu?
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It's not a "strand", its a strain. And supplements are not going to help. In fact, the FDA is being very aggresive torwards anyone marketing any supplement for the "swine flu". That is because any supplement claiming to do so is BS.

In any case, the swine flu would not kill you or I. It may be a mutated flu virus, but it still is just the flu. I've never worried about the flu and will continue not to worry. Sure my grandparents or infant relatives may catch the flu and die, but that risk has existed long before the swine flu.

What about the avian flu? Big pandemic, huh? Still wearing your face mask on airplanes?
 
Do you think the government makes the public aware of all issues that cause a threat? No, they dont. But again, i'm not at all saying the government was complicit in any over-hyping, that is all the media's fault. Running tickers perpetually and it being talked about every 5 minutes on CNN was ridiculous. But its anything that the liberal media can do to keep attention away from the president and congress driving our nation into bankruptcy. And our government will use this just like they use every "crisis" (like 200 people having the sniffles and a fever is a crisis) as an excuse to spend more money and broaden government control.
Well, yes, I can agree that you are correct on this matter.
 
How does the fact that people who were already infected with another strand, dying, have to do with people's right to clarification of swine flu?
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It's not a "strand", its a strain. And supplements are not going to help. In fact, the FDA is being very aggresive torwards anyone marketing any supplement for the "swine flu". That is because any supplement claiming to do so is BS.

In any case, the swine flu would not kill you or I. It may be a mutated flu virus, but it still is just the flu. I've never worried about the flu and will continue not to worry. Sure my grandparents or infant relatives may catch the flu and die, but that risk has existed long before the swine flu.

What about the avian flu? Big pandemic, huh? Still wearing your face mask on airplanes?
Thanks for the correction there butler. I was typing on my phone at work, and I am not going to go through the process of 5 minutes of back tracking on a 2" wide keyboard and slow a$$ net service on a treo phone...I know, he knew, what I meant.
 
Don't worry guys, I just ran into the swine flu and kicked it's ass. Shouldn't be a problem anymore.

Your welcome!
 
I dont know about the one youre talking about, since it claims to be everything, but they been trying for a long time to get something to fix MRSA cases and slow its progress. Hospitals are the most in need.


MRSA is more serious than swine flu. It is easily into you through a cut and unless they do come up with a trust worthy antibiotic, itll be alot of troubles.

3-4% of the current population has it on their hands, in about 1-2ys, estimated 10%+ will have it on them.

What's interesting to note here, and which I was unaware, was that Strep dwells in the various shallow AND deep layers of the dermis and epidermis - not just the upper surface. Topicals won't be affective unless they can get them extremely deep and targeted in the right spots.
 
bump, the outbreak in the uk seems to be getting pretty wild
 
bump, the outbreak in the uk seems to be getting pretty wild
I was researching the mechanism where the flu virus, once released from ruptured cells, does not bind back to the same cell (thus committing suicide) and seems to be a sialic acid bind. SA can be made from Shikimic acid (I believe this is what Tamiflu is derived from).

Today, the company producing my VB-12 strips offered me Sialic Acid strips.

Interesting developments....watch for about 3-4 more weeks for the ****storm to start.
 
I think the reason that the media hypes the swine flu is partly about sensational news, but more about the fact that the WHO is quite worried about this strain's abilities. When it manifested in Mexico, there was close to a 10% mortality rate initially...that's quite bad.

When vitamin D levels start sinking this fall, we'll really see what this bug can do.
 
I think the reason that the media hypes the swine flu is partly about sensational news, but more about the fact that the WHO is quite worried about this strain's abilities. When it manifested in Mexico, there was close to a 10% mortality rate initially...that's quite bad.

When vitamin D levels start sinking this fall, we'll really see what this bug can do.

The Spring strains are usually exponentially weaker.
 
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