Robboe
Handsome and intelligent
Simply put, if it involves performance Craze can enhance it. We've had excellent feedback from bodybuilders, strength athletes, strong men, MMArtists, ruby players, american footballers and at least one triathlete.
Supersize (AX) vs. Craze (DS)
- Thread starter Sonntag
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Simply put, if it involves performance Craze can enhance it. We've had excellent feedback from bodybuilders, strength athletes, strong men, MMArtists, ruby players, american footballers and at least one triathlete.
Robboe
Handsome and intelligent
Never used them myself, but having spoke to some people with a lot of experience with drugs like that they say that Craze is nothing remotely like it.
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
I do Warrior Diet (IF just a lil more extreme) and have no problem with the appetite,
I just had hard time once during the refeed, but I always have hard time eating as much
as I'm supposed to on refeed.
Tubs, and from my cold dead hands
SweetLou321
Well-known member
How long does the stim effect from craze last on avg?
Sonntag
Member
I would say between 5-6 hours, you can extend the stim-effects if you drink coffeine...
A had a very big crash last weekend on Craze....Took one scroop in combination with DAA...
Felt awful and foggy all day long....
Clever Mouse
New member
Sonntag
Member
Back to SX!
Yea, but have only a half botte of the old SX....time is over...:guilty:
Clever Mouse
New member
ProteinMurder
Member
I must be doing something wrong with Supersize, cause three scoops is not even close to two of craze. barely get a kick out of the stuff at all? Do people take 4 scoops?
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
I fail to see the logic here lol sorry
No matter how many scoop you take is a totally different formula, plus, Craze is really
a different kind of sup in both ingredients and effects/results.
Would be like overdosing fish oil trying to get the effect of caffeine or creatine or whatever..
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
I have *never* experienced any water retention with creatine.. If creatine gives you water retention
it mean is bad quality, mixed stuff. No water retention with Craze, actually if anything it makes you shed
water like crazy, you will see you totally feel like you have to drink way more and you sweat more too,
even for me that I hardly sweat at all
CJ_Xfit89
Board Sponsor
i sweat man...had upper body today Chest, triceps and back...
bench + incline bench (40 reps each exercise so 5 sets of 8
close grip bench
abs circuit
pull ups
bent over rows
HIIT cardio for 15 minutes and 10min 8mph jog to cruise. sweat was an understatement...this and Anabeta with alpha t2...OMFG!!!!
bench + incline bench (40 reps each exercise so 5 sets of 8
close grip bench
abs circuit
pull ups
bent over rows
HIIT cardio for 15 minutes and 10min 8mph jog to cruise. sweat was an understatement...this and Anabeta with alpha t2...OMFG!!!!
Clever Mouse
New member
Testing Craze:
Taste like medicine , 1.5 scoop down the hatch. Don't really feel any immediate "energy" like drinking an energy drink, but that was expected. About to enjoy some high intensity cardio, so let's see in one hour!
Taste like medicine , 1.5 scoop down the hatch. Don't really feel any immediate "energy" like drinking an energy drink, but that was expected. About to enjoy some high intensity cardio, so let's see in one hour!
flightposite
Board Sponsor
Clever Mouse said:
Yeah it won't really be a energy that you will feel a buzz with. To me it's almost more of a nootropic.
Clever Mouse
New member
I'm already taking the full monty of nootropics. Name it, and I take it.
So far, feels like a gentle PEA buzz, can "feel it" in my scalp....
edit: already had the expected PEA bowel movement....
So far, feels like a gentle PEA buzz, can "feel it" in my scalp....
edit: already had the expected PEA bowel movement....
Clever Mouse
New member
Testing Craze - part II
Took another 0.5 scoop to test before cardio workout (2 scoops total). Effects kept getting stronger, had to slam down water to quench a sudden thirst, but no real need to urinate. Focus was laserlike, but finally got up and went for a run (1 hour).
At first it felt like I had soooo much stamina, but after couple mins I felt the 'dull fragments-of-PEA-glass-in-my-knees effect' and had to stop and slam down a recovery drink -- after that I was good to go, and had a nice sustained stamina during the entire run. The same slow breathing and pulse in contrast to my physical effort like on SX, however the mood effects weren't as pronounced, ime.
Basically felt like redosing noticeable amounts of PEA throughout the experience (you know, where you pop a gram or two of PEA followed by another gram 15 mins later)
2 scoops are too much for a nice experience, maybe 1 is plenty. No rocket science there!
Didn't really improve on my workout, but maybe I was simply taking too much. Actually I think where the product shines is when taking 0.5-1 scoop on empty stomach and doing some rather immobile, cognitive activity. Kills appetite and desire for food completely.
also, track of time goes totally out the window. Like, seriously.
Took another 0.5 scoop to test before cardio workout (2 scoops total). Effects kept getting stronger, had to slam down water to quench a sudden thirst, but no real need to urinate. Focus was laserlike, but finally got up and went for a run (1 hour).
At first it felt like I had soooo much stamina, but after couple mins I felt the 'dull fragments-of-PEA-glass-in-my-knees effect' and had to stop and slam down a recovery drink -- after that I was good to go, and had a nice sustained stamina during the entire run. The same slow breathing and pulse in contrast to my physical effort like on SX, however the mood effects weren't as pronounced, ime.
Basically felt like redosing noticeable amounts of PEA throughout the experience (you know, where you pop a gram or two of PEA followed by another gram 15 mins later)
2 scoops are too much for a nice experience, maybe 1 is plenty. No rocket science there!
Didn't really improve on my workout, but maybe I was simply taking too much. Actually I think where the product shines is when taking 0.5-1 scoop on empty stomach and doing some rather immobile, cognitive activity. Kills appetite and desire for food completely.
also, track of time goes totally out the window. Like, seriously.
ProteinMurder
Member
The logic is really simple - I just wondered if i was having maximum dose. If you don't have full dose, you dont get full effects. Nothing like taking fish oil for caffeine effects?? Not sure where you pulled that from.
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
Comparing SS with Craze is apples to oranges, different formulas, different ingredients.
You could take the whole tub of SS and not getting the same "kick" because they're two
very different products, and because in this particular case you're comparing it with Craze
which is a very unique prewo with unique effects.
As for dose, everyone is different. Craze at 1 flat scoop blew everything else out of the water
for me.
ProteinMurder
Member
haha, this whole thread is about comparing them!
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
Ja, that's exactly my point.. Just because they're both listed as prewo,
doesn't necessarily make 'em comparable.
SweetLou321
Well-known member
I hope this craze doesnt give me a huge crash or keep me up all night. I just got some and ill trying it next monday for an me bench. fingers crossed.
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
I'm super stim sensitive and I've never crashed on Craze.
I've crashed on Jack3d, NO Xplode, 1MR, Muscle Marinade, HemoRage, and a couple others have caused me to crash.
Beast Predator, Craze, and Hyper Fx have never caused me to crash.
(Yes, I'm a PWO junkie... I must get off them.)
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
As for the the PEA buzz...look at the ingredients.. ;-)
Look at these particularly..
B-Phenylethylamine, N, N-Dimethyl-B-Phenylethylamine, and N, N-Diethyl-B-Phenylethylamine), B-Phenylethylamine HCI
PEA stands for phenethylamine.
SweetLou321
Well-known member
Ahh well most of the others are DMAA containing so I can see why you crashed. But I like you use a pre-wo, but im also a full time student and work part time. So i use it for a boost. I dont use stims outside of them tho.
ProteinMurder
Member
Give it a good 40 min to kick in man, even on a relatively empty stomach it takes a while.
Clever Mouse
New member
Bump in this thread. Craze is a wicked supplement, but it's not the best for cardio. I've tried 0.5, 1, and 2 scoops and while the mental effects are very strong, my physical stamina can't keep up, and it becomes too tiredsome to run on craze.
Anyone can comment on ultrareps maybe, I don't wanna keep buying stuff that's not doing the job (superior stamina and endurance).
Anyone can comment on ultrareps maybe, I don't wanna keep buying stuff that's not doing the job (superior stamina and endurance).
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
You say creatine in Craze is responsible for the thirst? There ain't much crea in it and I used to take
much more prewo (whether bulk or from other prewo) and I've never had to drink so much water
as when I'm on Craze (which is good imho)
I also don't seem to get any increase in blood pressure, that's probably because I've never had to dose
more than 1 scoop.
Actually I noticed I get slightly light headed on deadlift when I "jump up" fast, but that might be
because I increased weight on that quite a bit
SweetLou321
Well-known member
As i stated earlier I was worried about the sides from craze. But since I got a bottle I decieded WTH ill try it out. I didnt get any grinding, jawing, or anything. I found it is similar to the effect I get from lit-up. But more of an energy rush. It did increase my heart rate and didnt sit well on my stomach however, will dose with a full stomach next time. Very focused, did kill my appitite tho. Overall not a bad product at all. I did see an increase in preformance but I always see that anyways. I dont see this being good for cardio but for me bench it did the job. My be my stim/amp experience that made me not get bad sides. Good but not amazing since I was burping grape flavored stomach acid and felt like i was gonna puke for about an hr. Also it took about 45min to fully kick in, which thru me off.
andrew732
Well-known member
No, it can also be from the sudden rise in cathelomines no doubt about that, but for me, creatine brings on thirst harder than anything else. I know that if I took it without creatine, my body would require less water. The other day after taking craze, it 2gallons to suffice my thirst from one scoop of Craze
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
Oh ok
makes sensemy water intake is pretty crazy as is, with craze I just "go with the flow" and
drink more and more. The more water i take in the better my body seems to perform in the
gym, and overall i feel better during the day (it also help when dieting, water=best, cheapest appetite suppressor evAr
)Clever Mouse
New member
Tried Craze today 1 scoop and hitting the weights, and it's really supportive for that kind of activity. Awesome.
Would still like something for running 1+ hour on the beach, besides just caffeine, cordyceps, and the usual suspects.
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
for prolonged activity, adding in some bcaa's may be up your ally.
Clever Mouse
New member
Yeah, I should prolly supplement some bcaa's, thanks.
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
roll with 5g pre-workout along with whatever you currently use and see how well that works.
You could use another 5g intra-workout as well
AEK
New member
After one serving man I am loving this Supersize especially this second version taste has improved quite a bit
It's still early days but the energy and focus is on par with the current biggest seller Craze but the pump I have been getting just after my chest workout blows Craze right out of the water
The pumps are insane !!
Furthermore Supersize is about $4-5 dollars cheaper than Craze on most websites !
It's still early days but the energy and focus is on par with the current biggest seller Craze but the pump I have been getting just after my chest workout blows Craze right out of the water
The pumps are insane !!
Furthermore Supersize is about $4-5 dollars cheaper than Craze on most websites !
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
Do really miss my supersize, the tube went empty 1 week ago..Need to order some new ones, but also want the new taste!
Mine too brotha, it was a sad day indeed, but my new bottle arrived! Sadness ended
Eizbear
Active member
Luckily I got 2 tubes of the beta left, gonna use that until I get my new ones
Yes people, Plural!! Always plural when placing an order of SuperSize 
bdcc
Legend
I was sent a free tub of Supersize from a UK distributor courtesy of BB12 and about 100 emails lol.
I liked it. The mental focus and pumps were noticeable for me, three scoops left me with great workouts and I like that there are no harsh dyes in the powder. The taste is nowhere near as bad as people say except some PEA metallic taste which is minor.
Probably my favourite pre workout I have used in terms of overall profile i.e. not simply being a stimulant fest.
I liked it. The mental focus and pumps were noticeable for me, three scoops left me with great workouts and I like that there are no harsh dyes in the powder. The taste is nowhere near as bad as people say except some PEA metallic taste which is minor.
Probably my favourite pre workout I have used in terms of overall profile i.e. not simply being a stimulant fest.
Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
The flavor has been improved recently, not sure if you got the improved version or not.
Great review though, and when did you jump to 3 scoops?
I still use 1.
AEK
New member
Taste has definetly improved Still think that the pumps in Supersize are way better than Craze !!