superdrol ?s

Maverick24

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Hey im fixing to start a 4 week superdrol cycle and was wondering if rebound xt is a good pct. What is the best option for pct and at what week should I start it? Ive heard some people if they are going to do a 4 week cycle start it at the 4th week with superdrol. Also I will be taking hawthorne berry and milk thistle, should I stick to the amounts they say on the bottle or do more?
First week-10
2nd -10
3rd -20
4th -20
 
:gotsearch Im kinda new here and all but u should have searched more cause u just set yourself up to get flamed...theses guys gonna tear you a new one...so take it like a man deep breathes and relax...lol
 
why bother with hawthorne berry, milk thistle and the cocktail of other goodies when you could buy AI Cycle support?

And for PCT rebound XT doesn't do the trick bro, you need to look for some Toremifene Citrate, that would be a good SERM for superdrol.
 
UnrealMachine said:
why bother with hawthorne berry, milk thistle and the cocktail of other goodies when you could buy AI Cycle support?

And for post cycle therapy rebound XT doesn't do the trick bro, you need to look for some Toremifene Citrate, that would be a good SERM for superdrol.
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That was a much nicer version of what i was gonna say........good post though,i admire the restraint.
 
alainbballing said:
:gotsearch Im kinda new here and all but u should have searched more cause u just set yourself up to get flamed...theses guys gonna tear you a new one...so take it like a man deep breathes and relax...lol
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Hha, I totally repped you for that... That was funny
 
TripDog said:
That was a much nicer version of what i was gonna say........good post though,i admire the restraint.
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X2

1. Nolva, Torem etc if not (2)

2. Cycle support throughout and (3)

3. Post Cycle Support for PCT, if not (4)

4. Purchase new liver and inflatable replacement testicles

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
I've done 3 cycles of SD in the past 2 years and used Rebound XT, Perfect Cycle and Retain for PCT and never had a problem.,,, and yes, blood work came back fine.
 
Jim Mills said:
I've done 3 cycles of superdrol in the past 2 years and used Rebound XT, Perfect Cycle and Retain for post cycle therapy and never had a problem.,,, and yes, blood work came back fine.
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no it didnt, because rebound xt is probably more detrimental to PCT than not taking rebound xt.

what were your numbers again? what is "fine"?
 
ok but i dont understand how I would get a serm. whats the next best thing tho. I understand that a SERM is HIGHLY recommended although they make so many pct products one has to work ok atleast.
 
Maverick24 said:
ok but i dont understand how I would get a serm. whats the next best thing tho. I understand that a SERM is HIGHLY recommended although they make so many post cycle therapy products one has to work ok atleast.
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over the counter products are generally inferior to a SERM. However a SERM is in a gray area legally so you have to find it at a research chemical site. Researching and finding everything you need slows you down, but that's good, steroid cycling is nothing to rush into.
 
Maverick24 said:
ok but i dont understand how I would get a serm. whats the next best thing tho. I understand that a SERM is HIGHLY recommended although they make so many post cycle therapy products one has to work ok atleast.
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youd think so. they are all AR binding twitchy sketchy substances.

im telling you, if you do not use a serm for post cycle therapy, you are not going to recover quickly or correctly. a serm isnt recommended, its necessary for a quick and sustained recovery.

or you can just not listen to me (what do i know anyway) and go ahead and run some rinky dink moneymaking piece of crap supplement and not recover...in which case i will not be responding in the thread you post in 5 months asking someone to help you try and get back to normal because your balls are still peanuts.
 
ok your right....... im thinking im just going to start with a test booster and see what that does for me. Anything I need to becarful of when using one? Im thinking of using
'blue up" or a combination of an antiestrogen and a test booster. I understand that some do both but could that be a stack? thanks for everyones input. Thanks jomi
 
jomi822 said:
no it didnt, because rebound xt is probably more detrimental to post cycle therapy than not taking rebound xt.

what were your numbers again? what is "fine"?
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Well I'll start off by saying... I know my body/blood work/liver values more than most. I've had Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia (CLL) for the past 12 years and see my doctor every 4 months for complete blood work, including Liver.... I time my cycles so I'm not getting blood work during them, alway about a week or two after post cycle therapy and never once did it come back questionable..... Yes your right, It wasn't normal while on cycle or even during PCT, thats a giving..... But a couple weeks after PCT, I've recovered just fine.... I don't have my numbers with me, but we do spend a few minutes going over them every time I'm there.... The only counts that are off is my white blood count and platelet count.... So take it for what it is, I have no reason to bull sh** you.
 
Jim Mills said:
Well I'll start off by saying... I know my body/blood work/liver values more than most. I've had Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia (CLL) for the past 12 years and see my doctor every 4 months for complete blood work, including Liver.... I time my cycles so I'm not getting blood work during them, alway about a week or two after post cycle therapy and never once did it come back questionable..... Yes your right, It wasn't normal while on cycle or even during post cycle therapy, thats a giving..... But a couple weeks after PCT, I've recovered just fine.... I don't have my numbers with me, but we do spend a few minutes going over them every time I'm there.... The only counts that are off is my white blood count and platelet count.... So take it for what it is, I have no reason to bull sh** you.
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you either have the numbers or you dont
 
Jim Mills said:
Well I'll start off by saying... I know my body/blood work/liver values more than most. I've had Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia (CLL) for the past 12 years and see my doctor every 4 months for complete blood work, including Liver.... I time my cycles so I'm not getting blood work during them, alway about a week or two after post cycle therapy and never once did it come back questionable..... Yes your right, It wasn't normal while on cycle or even during post cycle therapy, thats a giving..... But a couple weeks after PCT, I've recovered just fine.... I don't have my numbers with me, but we do spend a few minutes going over them every time I'm there.... The only counts that are off is my white blood count and platelet count.... So take it for what it is, I have no reason to bull sh** you.
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I'd assume you know this but CLL can cause swelling of the liver....I cant imagine adding a methylated substance would help this issue at all. I'm not sure if you still cycle but I'm just saying be careful. Monitored or not seems like your risking a lot.

Also in regards to HPTA recovery are they doing a hormonal panel each time?

Seems like that wouldnt be likely as CLL is related more to your WBC than anything hormonal. I could be wrong on that as I am sure you are more educated on CLL then myself.

In this situation I am fairly sure Jomi is referring to your HPTA rather then the health of your liver and lipids.
 
jomi822 said:
you either have the numbers or you dont
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This test was done in July 07 Three weeks after a 4 week SD cycle and a 4 week PCT.... PCT then three weeks later was blood work... My next blood test is end of this month.... The Liver, Lipids and CBC he does every 4 months... I asked him to do the test levels once a year.
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Liver
AST: 21 (0-33 U/L)
ALT: 27 (0-45 U/L)

Lipids
Triglycerides: 105 (66-139 mg/dL)
Cholesterol: 165 (140-250 mg/dL)
HDL: 42 (35-80 mg/dL)
LDL: 108 (0-129 mg/dL)


Hemaglobin 152 135-175g/L
Hematocrit 0.43 0.40-0.50
White Blood Cell Count 28,12 5.4-11.7 <<<<<<< (H)
Red Blood Cell Count 4.51 4.5-6.00 x E12/L
MCV 90.7 80-98 fL
MCH 29.3 27.5-33.0 pg
MCHC 340 320-360 g/L
RDW 12.8 11.5-14.5
Platelet count 112 150-400 x E9/L <<<<<<< (L)
Absolute Neuts 3.1 2.0-7.5 x E9/L
Lymph 4.9 1.0-3.5 x E9/L <<<<<<< (H)
Mono 0.6 0.0-0.8 x E9/L
EOS 0.1 0.0-0.5 x E9/L
Baso 0.0 0.0-0.2 x E9/L

Testosterone 405 (350-890 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage IV: 395 (165-854 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage V: 432 (194-783 ng/dL)
Testosterone Free Tanner Stage V: 59 (41-239 pg/mL)
 
Wow your HDL looks pretty good after four weeks of superdrol. What were your support supps?

Do you have any before cycle bloodwork you could post?
 
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Travis said:
I'd assume you know this but CLL can cause swelling of the liver....
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I have a cat scan done once a year with contrast. Neck, chest abdomen.... Liver is normal, but I do have an enlarged spleen and some enlarged lymphnodes..... Just so you know, I've never had treatments for my CLL... Just watch and wait. I see my local Onc every 4 months and I see a doctor at Dana Farber once a year.
 
Travis said:
Wow your HDL looks pretty good after for weeks of superdrol. What were your support supps?

Do you have any before cycle bloodwork you could post?
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Yeah, I'll dig one up... I'm going out so it will be tomorrow.


Pre Cycle:
1 week pre-load:
Hawthorn berry - 1000mg /day
Perfect cycle liver support - 2/day
On cycle
Sd - 10, 20, 20 30.
Hawthorne berry - 1000mg / day
Perfect cycle liver support - 2/day
RYR w/CoQ10 - 1200mg / 60mg day
Saw Palmetto - 550mg / day
policosanol - 20mg/day
Fishoil - 2500mg / day
Glucosamine/Chondroitin 750/600mg

post cycle therapy
4 weeks Rebound XT 3 caps, 3 caps, 2 caps, 1 cap.
Perfect cycle liver support - 2/day
Retain 3 ed
 
Jim Mills said:
This test was done in July 07 Three weeks after a 4 week superdrol cycle and a 4 week post cycle therapy.... PCT then three weeks later was blood work... My next blood test is end of this month.... The Liver, Lipids and CBC he does every 4 months... I asked him to do the test levels once a year.
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Liver
AST: 21 (0-33 U/L)
ALT: 27 (0-45 U/L)

Lipids
Triglycerides: 105 (66-139 mg/dL)
Cholesterol: 165 (140-250 mg/dL)
HDL: 42 (35-80 mg/dL)
LDL: 108 (0-129 mg/dL)


Hemaglobin 152 135-175g/L
Hematocrit 0.43 0.40-0.50
White Blood Cell Count 28,12 5.4-11.7 <<<<<<< (H)
Red Blood Cell Count 4.51 4.5-6.00 x E12/L
MCV 90.7 80-98 fL
MCH 29.3 27.5-33.0 pg
MCHC 340 320-360 g/L
RDW 12.8 11.5-14.5
Platelet count 112 150-400 x E9/L <<<<<<< (L)
Absolute Neuts 3.1 2.0-7.5 x E9/L
Lymph 4.9 1.0-3.5 x E9/L <<<<<<< (H)
Mono 0.6 0.0-0.8 x E9/L
EOS 0.1 0.0-0.5 x E9/L
Baso 0.0 0.0-0.2 x E9/L

Testosterone 405 (350-890 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage IV: 395 (165-854 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage V: 432 (194-783 ng/dL)
Testosterone Free Tanner Stage V: 59 (41-239 pg/mL)
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both your total T and free T are at the bottom of the given range....no numbers for estrogen?
 
Good posts jim mills.
 
TripDog said:
Good posts jim mills.
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Thanks man... This is my blood work from Aug 2006 before doing a cycle.... My last superdrol cycle was about 8 months before this blood work. I'm not going to type in my CBC because the only thing that changes is my WBC, Lymph and platelet count.

Liver
AST: 24 (0-33 U/L)
ALT: 31 (0-45 U/L)

Lipids
Triglycerides: 109 (66-139 mg/dL)
Cholesterol: 169 (140-250 mg/dL)
HDL: 46 (35-80 mg/dL)
LDL: 115 (0-129 mg/dL)

Testosterone 492 (350-890 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage IV: 405 (165-854 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage V: 522 (194-783 ng/dL)
Testosterone Free Tanner Stage V: 69 (41-239 pg/mL)

Maverick24... Sorry to steal your thread... Didn't want that to happen.... Just be safe if your going to do a SD cycle.
 
Hey look what I found

March 5, 1995... One year after I was diagnosed..... This thread made me look back through all my paperwork I have since March of 94.

Liver
AST: 22 (0-33 U/L)
ALT: 28 (0-45 U/L)

Lipids
Triglycerides: 123 (66-139 mg/dL)
Cholesterol: 178 (140-250 mg/dL)
HDL: 52 (35-80 mg/dL)
LDL: 118 (0-129 mg/dL)

Testosterone 562 (350-890 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage IV: 435 (165-854 ng/dL)
Tanner Stage V: 612 (194-783 ng/dL)
Testosterone Free Tanner Stage V: 105 (41-239 pg/mL)

WBC 42.1 <<<<<< (H)
PLC 98 <<<<<< (L)
Lymph 4.6 <<<<<< (H)

All these numbers are starting to look better than my 401K :blink:
 
I take this back...... has superdrol been pulled from shelves? I sisnt know that it had. I have no where to get it now so I wont be using it
 
Maverick24 said:
I take this back...... has superdrol been pulled from shelves? I sisnt know that it had. I have no where to get it now so I wont be using it
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Yup, SD has been gone for about a year now.... I found that EST's Hemadro & Propadrol cycle was decent. I didn't have any sides and I gained 12 lbs, but now I'm down to a 8 lb gain. I hope I can keep most of it on during and after PCT.... What ever cycle you try, be safe and do a lot of research. By the way, how old are you?
 
neoborn said:
X2

1. Nolva, Torem etc if not (2)

2. Cycle support throughout and (3)

3. Post Cycle Support for post cycle therapy, if not (4)

4. Purchase new liver and inflatable replacement testicles

Much Love,

Neoborn
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are you selling # 4 neo?
 
T-Bone said:
He is 42, not 26!!!!.
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my concern here is that this is in fact, THE ONLY rebound xt alone user that has posted up numbers in the "ok" range. this is an anomaly, lets be serious. I have seen numbers mirroring that free and total T almost exactly, and the individual had a complete lack of sexual desire and function, depression, etc (RXT only pct).

i just hope some kid doesnt take a gander at this and use it to justify using RXT only during post cycle therapy, i just havent ever seen it work out for ANYONE else. in fact, i have never seen a PCT FAILURE HELP thread without rebound xt in it.
 
jomi822 said:
my concern here is that this is in fact, THE ONLY rebound xt alone user that has posted up numbers in the "ok" range. this is an anomaly, lets be serious. I have seen numbers mirroring that free and total T almost exactly, and the individual had a complete lack of sexual desire and function, depression, etc (RXT only post cycle therapy).

i just hope some kid doesnt take a gander at this and use it to justify using RXT only during post cycle therapy, i just havent ever seen it work out for ANYONE else. in fact, i have never seen a post cycle therapy FAILURE HELP thread without rebound xt in it.
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Well we can debate this over and over again.... I'm not telling anyone to use Rebound XT for PCT. I'm just letting you know how my expeiance was using it. This was my post.

"I've done 3 cycles of superdrol in the past 2 years and used Rebound XT, Perfect Cycle and Retain for post cycle therapy and never had a problem.,,, and yes, blood work came back fine."

And I followed up on this thread as best as I can :study:

I can agree with you that young people should use a better approach to a proper PCT, but my feeling is, my PCT is fine for someone my age.... My sex drive was in the sh** while I was on a superdrol cycle. But by week two into my PCT it came back without a doubt.... And that was the same for all 3 cycles. I'm still waking up every morning with strong wood :twisted: and sex as been great @ 42. :cool:
 
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