Superdrol Log

Measurement Updates

Starting Measurements / TODAY:

Right Bicep: 15.25" -- 16" (+0.75")
Left Bicep: 15" -- 15.5" (+0.50")

Right Forearm: 12.75" -- 13" (+0.25")
Left Forearm: 12.25" -- 12.5" (+0.25")

Right Calf: 14.75" -- 15" (+0.25")
Left Calf: 14.5" -- 14.625" (+0.125")

Right Quad: 23.75" -- 24.5" (+0.75")
Left Quad: 23" -- 23.5" (+0.50")

Chest: 41" -- 41.75" (+0.75")

Stomach (around belly button): 35" -- 35.5" (+0.50")

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Looks like my gains were mostly lean since I only gained 0.50" on my stomach and that is where my body stores almost all of its fat. I still wonder why my right grew faster than my left even training them equally, now my left is lagging more than before!
 
Is there anywhere I can read more about this alri elephant max product? I'd never heard of it...but that doesn't say much.
 
dertynasty said:
I meant pics, but measurements are good too :)
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Right right, I know you meant pics but I did promise measurements too earlier in the log! I'll have to get some good 'after' shots as soon as I get a chance, I'll post em' when I get em'.
 
Day 22 / PCT Day 1 ( Chest / Lats ):

Weight was 188 pounds today, down 1 pound from last Friday making my total gain for the on-cycle portion 10 pounds. That 1 pound could have easily been water weight and/or food in my stomach variance.

I had one of the most energetic work-outs I've had in months today. I don't know exactly why or what the deal is but I absolutely destroyed my work-out today.

Started with Decline bench... 225 x 10, 255 x 8, 275 x 8 -- I felt just plain strong!

Seems the strength is coming in from my size gains about now.
 
I just realized you and me are about identical size than... what's your height? 5'10"? I'm 5'10" 188 and our measurements are almost spot on, you got 2 inches on me on chest and an inch on me on stomach as well, although I'll give you THAT inch... but I'm at about 17% right now... =(
 
Magickk said:
I just realized you and me are about identical size than... what's your height? 5'10"? I'm 5'10" 188 and our measurements are almost spot on, you got 2 inches on me on chest and an inch on me on stomach as well, although I'll give you THAT inch... but I'm at about 17% right now... =(
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Yep, I am 5'10" tall :)

Heh, yah, the stomach is something I'm not proud of. It's where 90% of my fat store is. My legs and arms are very lean as is the rest of me besides a smidge of chest fat. All right there on the ol' belly, damn genetics!
 
Don't leave me out, guys. Anything you care to share about that alri elephant max stuff? I've found other ALRI products...but nothing by that title.
 
burnuphard said:
Don't leave me out, guys. Anything you care to share about that alri elephant max stuff? I've found other ALRI products...but nothing by that title.
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It's not out yet, you can find some information in the ALRI section on here. But not much has been released.
 
Darn good measurements man! Actually, that's quite impressive for 3 weeks! Awesome bicep and quad growth, I can't wait to try this stuff. It WOULD appear that this was lean tissue gain, way to go!
 
chrisrico said:
Darn good measurements man! Actually, that's quite impressive for 3 weeks! Awesome bicep and quad growth, I can't wait to try this stuff. It WOULD appear that this was lean tissue gain, way to go!
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I'm hoping that I can retain most of my gains from this cycle. I intend to keep my calories as close as possible to my on-cycle and to keep training my butt off along with proper PCT, I don't imagine I'll lose much of the 10-11 pounds I gained. You can imagine my excitement since if you recall from the beginning of my log I haven't grown in a LONG time.

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Notes:

WOW! Liquid Nolva is the most horrific substance I've ever put in my mouth. I drank water, brushed my teeth, used listerine... and it was still there! Thinking maybe I should mix it with a shot glass sized portion of juice or something.

I may also take my PCT down to 3 weeks since my cycle was only 3 weeks. Per Dr. Ds advice I have been using Fenungreek, which I started a week ago now. ALL shrinkage has been reversed and I am back to my old self where I wake up every morning with the old morning wood, on-cycle it was still most of the time but not all of the time (apparantly this stuff didn't supress me much if that and libido are any indicator).
 
I hear ya about the damn genetics man, same with me as far as stomach fat goes. I'm taking sesathin and 50mg Eph HCl / day now to try to shed some BF...

As far as the SD goes, it never suppresses me much either, I'm always ready to go, and I wake up every morning with a good 'ol salute to the Gods LoL... Of course, that may be because I have a horrible urge to piss every morning when I wake up from drinking so much water ;) And Fenugreek is amazing stuff...
 
In response to the awful taste of liquid nolva; how about if you used an oral syringe to fill some large gelatin capsules and then immediately consume them?
 
PIOTREK said:
In response to the awful taste of liquid nolva; how about if you used an oral syringe to fill some large gelatin capsules and then immediately consume them?
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I hate the taste myself but I just dump it in some orange juice and down it like a shot. Not bad at all.
 
IntensePump said:
What brands of hawthorne berry, coq10, policosanol, and red yeast rice extract are you using?
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That was covered on page 1 of my log, post #12 :) Hope that helps.

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Magikk,

I'm hoping my next cycle will shed some fat from my body. I'm trying to brain storm a Superdrol pre-load, Elephant LMG and Melting Point cycle. Thinking of loading for a week with SD since I KNOW this adds pounds of lean mass to my body... then moving into the EM LMG / Melting Point phase to 'cut' while still possibly building another lean pound or two. Still just a brain storm idea at this point, though.

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It would be pretty sweet to have the liquid Nolva in gel-caps... but I'm too lazy for that, I'll probably go along with MorganKane and mix it with juice tonight!

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Day 23 / PCT Day 2 (Legs ):

Some kind of unholy strength overcame me today... I've never felt this way before. Last week I busted my ASS to get 770 for 8 reps on the squat press.

Get this... 800 pounds... for 10 reps today with enough energy to pound out 6 partial reps. I don't know what came over me but I just kept going and going... I hit 6, I felt like I should stop... 7... 8... what the hell? 9... 10... then I knew I should do partials or my poor spotter would be working harder than me.

All of my other lifts were up to a lesser degree even after expending an enormous amount of energy on the squat press. I was way intense the whole time as well. I pushed past where I thought I should really stop on several of my other leg exercises -- I was a machine.
 
Not to hijack bro's log with this nolva sideline, but it's easiest just to hold some juice or diet coke in the back of your mouth and squirt the nolva with the syringe into the back of your throat. Swallow... chase with more juice/coke. Easy, quick, and no taste. I've done it this way from the start.
 
Day 24 / PCT Day 3 ( Cardio / Abs ):

Nothing amazing to report today, really.

I am up another pound bringing me to 190 pounds for a 12 pound total gain. Hoping to sort of level it off here and keep it until I hit my next cycle which I hope I will drop body fat on.
 
thanatopsis said:
Day 24 / PCT Day 3 ( Cardio / Abs ):

Nothing amazing to report today, really.

I am up another pound bringing me to 190 pounds for a 12 pound total gain. Hoping to sort of level it off here and keep it until I hit my next cycle which I hope I will drop body fat on.
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Great log. Please keep us posted. A couple questions- Why did you decide to use Nolva/RXT instead of just RXT alone? How do your joints feel after being on SD for three weeks (the same, better or worse than normal)?
 
steve777 said:
Great log. Please keep us posted. A couple questions- Why did you decide to use Nolva/RXT instead of just RXT alone? How do your joints feel after being on SD for three weeks (the same, better or worse than normal)?
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I decided on the combo of Nolva and RXT so that I had a week with Nolva to experience the positive lipid effects it produces. I decided to go with RXT in addition to help me hold onto my gains as the PCT went along since it, in itself, produces a significant testosterone boost.

Joints felt pretty sore a couple of times, well, it mainly felt like tendons actually. You may have noticed I complained of a stabbing pain doing dips -- I think it may have been related to the pumps. Actual joint dryness I really don't think I experienced, I felt pretty average in that area.

If you look back at page 1 I reported my knee feeling a bit tight and my shoulders being a bit more sensistive -- but as things went on I decided this wasn't related to Superdrol at all. It just seems my sensitive areas sort of fluctuate, both of them felt fine later in the cycle.

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chrisrico,

I currently have zero knowledge on m5aa but I will certainly look into it. I was considering pre-loading Superdrol for 1 week then doing the new ALRI Elephant LMG product stacked with Melting point for 3-4 more weeks.

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Note on the log:

When PCT is over with I intend to create a web page that will summarize my cycle and put it together in a manner that will be easier to read than a big thread. Hopefully it can be a good reference for people planning a Superdrol cycle.
 
Day 25 / PCT Day 4 ( Biceps / Triceps ):

Still holding steady at 190 pounds.

Had a problem today with my left shoulder... it popped a bit doing rope tricep push-downs. Not so bad at the time but when I hit seated incline curls it kept popping and actually made me drop the weights. So that really compromised my bicep working missing those.

Moved Fenungreek from 2 to 2.5 grams as of last night per Dr. Ds advice of upping it weekly.

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My continued shoulder issues are making me reconsider plans for my next cycle. I may have to run the cycle just so I can get some easy lifting time and not lose muscle. I think maybe 4 solid weeks of very light training might help it out. Hopefully being on-cycle may even produce gains, but I feel that I really need to take some time to let this rest up. The cortisone shot I got before my SD cycle helped my right one, it's not as good as new, but it's better... I may need one in the left as well at this rate.
 
BoxingFool01 said:
Haven't some users reported issues with RXT and sore joints during PCT? Could RXT make you injury worse?
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My injury is all soft tissue according to the x-rays and MRIs I got so I'm not worried about that.
 
May want to try some cissus RX - synergy muscle - for the joints/tendons. There are several posts indicating this herb has some benefits for joints.
 
steve777 said:
May want to try some cissus RX - synergy muscle - for the joints/tendons. There are several posts indicating this herb has some benefits for joints.
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I'll have to give that a try, thanks for the heads up!
 
i'd recommend three weeks on superdrol and then switch to ALRI Elephant LMG and melting point...that way you could add some mass anbd then while cutting, preserve what you had, and only probably lose 1/3 what you gained from the 'drol
 
bigman420 said:
i'd recommend three weeks on superdrol and then switch to ALRI Elephant LMG and melting point...that way you could add some mass anbd then while cutting, preserve what you had, and only probably lose 1/3 what you gained from the 'drol
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is the elephant max available yet?
 
Day 26 / PCT Day 5 ( Dead Lifts / Shoulders ):

Did well on deads today, but I changed up my sets so I can't directly compare to last time. But I felt way more energetic on them than I did last time I did them (two weeks ago). My sets were:

225 x 6
315 x 6
405 x 4
455 x 5
405 x 5

Not too shabby... I dropped peaking at a 500 pound set in favor of some extra reps. I want to see if that'll help me make gains since I was frozen at 500-520 lbs for quite a while.

STILL have a problem with the left shoulder... it did the popping thing on bench supported inclined rows which made me useless for the rest of the work-out... I went light and did sets of 15 for my other exercises.

I followed the tip on Cissus Rx and have that on order... hopefully I can get my shoulder lined out in time for my next cycle.
 
Day 26, 27 / PCT Day 5, 6 ( Off, Weekend):

Feeling like I'm quickly restoring my natural test levels. Mid-Week I started feeling a greater than usual sexual desire, and it's still holding strong. I would go as far as saying it was even greater than before my cycle, since I still had a strong desire while I was running the Superdrol. It appears the combo of Nolva and Fenungreek is working very well together.

Tomorrow I will be starting the RXT section of my PCT.
 
thanatopsis said:
Day 26, 27 / PCT Day 5, 6 ( Off, Weekend):

Feeling like I'm quickly restoring my natural test levels. Mid-Week I started feeling a greater than usual sexual desire, and it's still holding strong. I would go as far as saying it was even greater than before my cycle, since I still had a strong desire while I was running the Superdrol. It appears the combo of Nolva and Fenungreek is working very well together.

Tomorrow I will be starting the RXT section of my PCT.
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-Why did you wait 5 days into PCT to start RXT? Just curious...
 
BoxingFool01 said:
-Why did you wait 5 days into PCT to start RXT? Just curious...
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Probably to let the SD completely run its course before he started PCT. I think Dr. D said that the SD remained for about 4-5 days after the last dose, so I'm guessing that would be his reasoning.
 
BoxingFool01 said:
-Why did you wait 5 days into PCT to start RXT? Just curious...
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It's actually starting on Day 7 of PCT. If you look back to post #73 in this thread I explained why I wanted to start with Nolva. It was for the positive lipid effect that it presents, and the anecdotal evidence seems to show that RXT slows down lipid recovery. I wanted a week of solid Nolva only (well, Fenungreek too) lipid regeneration before starting on RXT.
 
Day 28 / PCT Day 7 ( Chest / Lats ):

Still having the painful 'popping' problem in my left shoulder. It prevented me from doing anything heavy today whatsoever. I went for sets of 15 with light weights so I can't say much about my strength.

Weight was down to 187 pounds, leaving me with 9 pounds of the 12 I gained. Some of this could be water since I didn't drink as much liquid over the weekend as I usually do -- tomorrow will tell.

Today was my first day of Rebound XT (1 cap with breakfast, one with night time shake). Nolva has also been backed off to 30mg (1.5 mL liquid). If you notice my PCT is different than originally planned, have no fear... I'm going to summarize this log when it's all done to make it easier to read for future reference purposes.
 
Day 29 / PCT Day 8 ( Legs ):

Day two on RXT today.

Weight is back up a pound to 188 pounds, for a current total of 10 pounds gained (down from a maximum of 12 pounds).

I went up again on squat presses, but not quite as dramatically as last week. It seems the explosive strength gains wear off when you surpass 7 days off of Superdrol. I still gained 20 lbs of weight on my heavy set of squat press, but had to shave of 2 reps to do so.

My other lifts fell into line pretty well with the expected 5 lb or 2-3 rep increases from last week.

Thanks God for leg day... my shoulder problem really has me bummed out since it popped up last Thursday. Still waiting on my Cissus RX and/or a doc appointment for a cortisone shot in this shoulder too.
 
Day 30 / PCT Day 9 (OFF):

Took today off to have dinner at my parents house, it would normally be cardio and abs day.

My weight is again up, back to 189 pounds. Meaning I have thusfar retained 11 of 12 pounds that I gained. Not sure why it was down then up again like it was, must have been water weight.

Started taking Cissus RX today for my shoulder. Hopefully I can get back into lifting heavy so I don't lose my cycle strength gains.
 
Day 31 / PCT Day 10 (Biceps / Triceps):

Again, nothing amazing to report since I am simply on PCT but my weight is still fluctuating between 188 and 189 pounds on a seemingly daily basis. It was 188 today.

Shoulder is coming around a little bit thanks to the Cissus... so I'm still doing more of a volume training routine to keep the heavy weights from 'popping' my shoulder until I feel that it's ready. Hopefully this style training will be sufficient to maintain my gains!
 
thanatopsis said:
Day 31 / PCT Day 10 (Biceps / Triceps):

Again, nothing amazing to report since I am simply on PCT but my weight is still fluctuating between 188 and 189 pounds on a seemingly daily basis. It was 188 today.

Shoulder is coming around a little bit thanks to the Cissus... so I'm still doing more of a volume training routine to keep the heavy weights from 'popping' my shoulder until I feel that it's ready. Hopefully this style training will be sufficient to maintain my gains!
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good luck with that shoulder
 
IntensePump said:
What happened to your before and after pics u had posted?
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Didn't get around to it :) I need to find an assistant to help me get em. Or rig up a stand or something for my camera.

Days 32 - 34 / PCT Days 11 - 13:

Day 32 was dead lifts and shoulders and my weight was around 188 pounds still. I was still quite sore in my quads from Leg day so I didn't do so hot on deads. My shoulder lifts went as well as can be expected since I am forced to go light.

Day 33 I boosted Fenungreek to 6 caps (3 grams) at night. I'm almost out at this point.
 
Day 35 / PCT Day 14 (Legs):

I was down a bit on the squat press to 800 lbs x 8 reps (820 for the same last week). Partially since I had no spotter, partially because I moved legs one day ahead from usual and dead-lifts were Friday, and maybe a little to do with some of my cycle strength coming down.

My other lifts went pretty much as expected, although unlike my others lifts that seem to be staying close to the same or slightly down my hamstring strength continues to rise -- perhaps due to the 'new way' of doing it I started near the end of my cycle.

My weight tipped back to 190 pounds today. I have a feeling I'll be keeping anywhere from 10 to the full 12 pounds I gained on-cycle for good.

Tonight is my last night on Fenungreek, I'll be using up my last 6 capsules.

Still dosing 50 mg a day of RXT.

Nolva will taper down to 20mg tonight.
 
are you training hard in the gym during PCT? or are you taking it a bit lighter? and did you change your routine for PCT? maybe cut it back a day or two?

i didn't read through this whole thing but i read most of it, just wanted a straight answer.
 
Just wanted to chime in and say, great log. I read the whole thing and it has helped me anticipate my upcoming SD cycle. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
 
Pioneer said:
are you training hard in the gym during PCT? or are you taking it a bit lighter? and did you change your routine for PCT? maybe cut it back a day or two?

i didn't read through this whole thing but i read most of it, just wanted a straight answer.
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I am training just as hard as I was on-cycle during the PCT with one exception. I managed to acquire a shoulder injury during PCT so I have been doing volume training on lifts that have an effect on my shoulder (chest, some bicep exercises, and of course anything that directly works the problem area).

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Sky9,

I'm glad my log could help you out! I was hoping it would be useful. Once my PCT is over I'll be making a condensed version that reflects any changes I made mid-cycle so that someone wouldn't have to search through every post to get that information.
 
Pioneer said:
how did you get the shoulder injury? was it weight room specific or did you fall down some stairs?
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I had a pre-existing problem that wasn't all that bad -- which goes back a LONG time. But... I was trying to re-incorporate rope tricep push-down, got a little on the heavy side, and the last part of the movement where you come out to the sides... my shoulder 'popped', I guess you could say. And it has continued to do this when pressed with heavy weights in any manner that is not ENTIRELY linear.

To further that... when I did decline press the first time after that I was doing fine once I got my spotter to help get it directly above my chest. One of the reps half way through my set the weight made a SLIGHT rearward motion and the popping nearly made me drop it on my face, and I couldn't re-rack it without assistance. So I've been taking it easy, weight wise, since that. I'm trying to keep my load as high as possible by doing 12-15 reps.

I had recent MRIs but I'm convinced they got them reversed... they said I had an impingement in my right shoulder where my tendon was kinda hanging up in my ball joint. Well, thats what this popping feels like... but it's in my left.
 
Days 36 - 37 / PCT Days 16 - 17:

Maintaining 190 lbs flat still. After some time of alot of fluctuation earlier in PCT it seems to have levelled off entirely. Only a few more days to go on PCT and I have yet to lose a single pound for good.

Decided to make PCT 3 weeks instead of 4 since I cut my cycle down to 4 weeks.

Stopped taking RXT since I had some from the defective batch. Seems that Nolva and Fenungreek alone have been getting the job done just fine.

On the note of my shoulder... I'm getting it looked at Saturday and probably will have a cortisone shot if they'll go ahead and give it to me without doing the MRIs again. So that means I'll be taking next week off the gym if I get the shot. So hopefully 3 weeks of PCT was enough to normalize me so I don't lose much during that week. I'll keep calories up minus my PWO shake, of course.
 
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