Superbeast mode. test e, eq, dbol.

superbeast668 said:
yeah, from what i understand too many red blood cells can be hazardous though and from my understanding help raise bp. why my heart rate would go up idk. it felt like that sh!t was ready to rip out of my chest. as far as the dbol, its not my first time using it. i wouldnt expect to pull another 20 lbs out of it. i've never had gains as big as the first time i've used a compound. superdrol i gained like 25lbs the first time i took it. the second i took higher doses and only gained half. the test seems to be legit. theres other people running it as well, in these forums even. hell i know at least ones subbed in my page. idk. maybe i'm just absolutely friggin paranoid and there's nothing going on.
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Ok well that makes sense! I'm planning on running EQ along with test, dbol and gh on my bulking cycle this winter.
Hopefully I wont run into any of those problems
 
BigTex08 said:
Ok well that makes sense! I'm planning on running EQ along with test, dbol and gh on my bulking cycle this winter.
Hopefully I wont run into any of those problems
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Hope not man. Im starting to get more and more interested in gh. Have you used it or will this be a first time
 
superbeast668 said:
Hope not man. Im starting to get more and more interested in gh. Have you used it or will this be a first time
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Never used it before! But it seems like its that time. If I want to get my pro card in 2013 I definitely need to put on some size
 
mysteri said:
Ps.
Not a huge fan of EQ anyway.
May try it in my next cycle at a high dosage of about 1000mgs

But I am DEFINATELY a TREN ACE loverrrrr!!!!
Best repartitioning drug that exists...

And I say tren ace in capitals, bcuz tren enanthate does not compare.
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I am already so antsy to run tren a now I am so pumped!
 
Tren will not dissapoint, there more you take the better the gains,
It's just trying to find that happy medium with sides that you can handle.

But justifying you know when I first used it I got sides really bad at 1ml eod
Tren sweats, insomnia, anxiety,
But lowered the dose and built back up and now never suffer sides from tren :)
 
mysteri said:
Tren will not dissapoint, there more you take the better the gains,
It's just trying to find that happy medium with sides that you can handle.

But justifying you know when I first used it I got sides really bad at 1ml eod
Tren sweats, insomnia, anxiety,
But lowered the dose and built back up and now never suffer sides from tren :)
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I was going to run it patiently. I was going to start like this:

Week 1-2 tren a 25 mg ED
Week 3-4 37.5 mg ED
Week 5-8 50 mg ED

I'm working on my test dosages now. I'm unsure if I want to run test full on or just as a base.
 
mysteri said:
Tren will not dissapoint, there more you take the better the gains,
It's just trying to find that happy medium with sides that you can handle.

But justifying you know when I first used it I got sides really bad at 1ml eod
Tren sweats, insomnia, anxiety,
But lowered the dose and built back up and now never suffer sides from tren :)
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Fair 'nuff. Seems the way everyone has been doing tren, a slow ramp into it.

BigTex08 said:
Never used it before! But it seems like its that time. If I want to get my pro card in 2013 I definitely need to put on some size
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Keep me in the loop when you use it man.
 
BigTex08 said:
EQ is suppose to raise your red blood cell count. It allows more oxygen into the body.
It should actually help cardio.
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Test will raise hematocrit / stimulate erythropoiesis as well, if not better, than EQ. In fact, superdrol will increase rbc's more in 4 weeks than eq will. Anadrol certainly does a better job than eq too. Deca is also very good at this. All androgens do this, not just eq.

As far as helping cardio, yea, more rbc's is generally better to a point, as does overall blood volume. The problem is that bodybuilders are never going to realize the endurance increases caused by more oxygen carrying capacity, because oxygen is not their limiting factor. Their hearts are clumsy (enlarged) and inefficient (low absolute vo2 max), have low lactate threshold, low mitochondrial density (heavy on the Type I, low on the Type 2 fibers that actually use oxygen), underdeveloped blood vessel / blood delivery system (brought upon on only through heavy endurance training), etc.

Going from a 42 to a 55 hematocrit in a TRAINED endurance athlete can increase lactate threshold 15-20% power wise, but in an untrained person, or even worse, a bodybuilder, going from a 42 to a 55 will more than likely be a 0-5% increase, hardly noticeable, because they don't have the supporting body/muscle to accommodate it. What's worse, if you got that increase from androgens, you probably also got a big increase in bodyweight, so that 0-5% gain will more than likely be a -5% to -10% net loss, or worse.
 
ripped_one said:
Test will raise hematocrit / stimulate erythropoiesis as well, if not better, than EQ. In fact, superdrol will increase rbc's more in 4 weeks than eq will. Anadrol certainly does a better job than eq too. Deca is also very good at this. All androgens do this, not just eq.

As far as helping cardio, yea, more rbc's is generally better to a point, as does overall blood volume. The problem is that bodybuilders are never going to realize the endurance increases caused by more oxygen carrying capacity, because oxygen is not their limiting factor. Their hearts are clumsy (enlarged) and inefficient (low absolute vo2 max), have low lactate threshold, low mitochondrial density (heavy on the Type I, low on the Type 2 fibers that actually use oxygen), underdeveloped blood vessel / blood delivery system (brought upon on only through heavy endurance training), etc.

Going from a 42 to a 55 hematocrit in a TRAINED endurance athlete can increase lactate threshold 15-20% power wise, but in an untrained person, or even worse, a bodybuilder, going from a 42 to a 55 will more than likely be a 0-5% increase, hardly noticeable, because they don't have the supporting body/muscle to accommodate it. What's worse, if you got that increase from androgens, you probably also got a big increase in bodyweight, so that 0-5% gain will more than likely be a -5% to -10% net loss, or worse.
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Im definitely aware all androgens raise rbc. Infact the literature ive seen and own pertaining to eq make sure to clarify that. I will say however that eq supposedly boosts it more than test and deca and tren for that matter. I wont argue the point with abombs however, i do remember seeing that was actually one of the best for doing that, and since sd is a close relative im not surprised. Just to kill my curiousity do you have literature to back up test boosting it higher? Ive said it a few times im no dr, so some of this information is out of my grasp of understanding. I Am just a dumb meat head
 
BigTex08 said:
How about them cowboys SB!! Lol aren't you from new york?
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The nj giants? Who cares? :-) didnt even watch. I hope the goodyear blimp crashed into the stadium and both teams lost.
 
superbeast668 said:
The nj giants? Who cares? :-) didnt even watch. I hope the goodyear blimp crashed into the stadium and both teams lost.
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Hahaha damn dick! Lol
My boys won so its all good! Lol
 
BigTex08 said:
Hahaha damn dick! Lol
My boys won so its all good! Lol
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Haha sorry bro. I know you were looking forward to talking sh1t about the cowgirls but i grew up in western ny by buffalo... my team sucks!
 
49ers ftw! Hopefully this year... I don't even know how Dallas beat us last year haha
 
day 30 was off, day 31 chest, day 32 pinned 375mg test

chest work out as follows
chest only (it was a quick one)
flat db press
120x10, 10,8,7.
inclines
225x10, 235x10, 240x8, 240x8
10 degree flies
65's for 4 sets of 10

abs till fail, cardio for 15 minutes

had some stuff going on last night so i had to crunch it in. had a hell of a pump. the pumps are getting better and better as the test keeps hitting harder and harder.
 
superbeast668 said:
aw come on man? aint you supposed to be a seahawks fan? the '9er's, really bro?
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Lol negative and I grew up a 9ers fan haha ain't going back
 
BigTex08 said:
Just saying their is a reason we are Americas team!! 9ers do look good this year tho
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I dont understand where that label can even come from. Yeah theres dallass fans everywhere but americas team? No. Just no.
 
Well what teams can we all hate on common? Say... Raiders and packers?
 
superbeast668 said:
Dude. Get on test btw. Craziest sex of my life last night. Your wife will love it!
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I will he in 2 months. I gotta afford the **** first Hahaha
 
superbeast668 said:
Im definitely aware all androgens raise rbc. Infact the literature ive seen and own pertaining to eq make sure to clarify that. I will say however that eq supposedly boosts it more than test and deca and tren for that matter. I wont argue the point with abombs however, i do remember seeing that was actually one of the best for doing that, and since sd is a close relative im not surprised. Just to kill my curiousity do you have literature to back up test boosting it higher? Ive said it a few times im no dr, so some of this information is out of my grasp of understanding. I Am just a dumb meat head
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You can Google it all day long. Tons of studies out there. There are lots on nandrolone (deca) as well that show it raises hematocrit as well as epo in some cases... which is nuts if you ask me.

From personal experience I know my crit usually runs around 43, but on just 150mg of test a week it stays around 48. Also, if you use epo to get your crit up to say 55, if you are on test, you can use a much lower maintenance dose of epo to keep it elevated. This effect is also well documented in studies and is common knowledge in the endurance athlete circles...marathoners, cyclists, nordic skiers, etc.
 
ripped_one said:
You can Google it all day long. Tons of studies out there. There are lots on nandrolone (deca) as well that show it raises hematocrit as well as epo in some cases... which is nuts if you ask me.

From personal experience I know my crit usually runs around 43, but on just 150mg of test a week it stays around 48. Also, if you use epo to get your crit up to say 55, if you are on test, you can use a much lower maintenance dose of epo to keep it elevated. This effect is also well documented in studies and is common knowledge in the endurance athlete circles...marathoners, cyclists, nordic skiers, etc.
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Thanks. Looking forward to an interesting read.
 
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Look around for superdrol bloodwork too. Lots of high-normal or slightly high hematocrit and hemoglobin after 4 weeks...
 
ok guys quick update. i'll be back up and logging tomorrow evening. i do have some picture updates, im not thrilled with them though i have grown i'm sooo fluffy right now from poor diet. my girl flew down from ny to sc to hang out for the weekend, so i ate a ton of not so clean food, had a lot of sex cardio and, well she's kinda big so throwing her around could count as lifting.
 
superbeast668 said:
ok guys quick update. i'll be back up and logging tomorrow evening. i do have some picture updates, im not thrilled with them though i have grown i'm sooo fluffy right now from poor diet. my girl flew down from ny to sc to hang out for the weekend, so i ate a ton of not so clean food, had a lot of sex cardio and, well she's kinda big so throwing her around could count as lifting.
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Finally bro I was wondering web you'd come out of your sex cAve
 
superbeast668 said:
ok guys quick update. i'll be back up and logging tomorrow evening. i do have some picture updates, im not thrilled with them though i have grown i'm sooo fluffy right now from poor diet. my girl flew down from ny to sc to hang out for the weekend, so i ate a ton of not so clean food, had a lot of sex cardio and, well she's kinda big so throwing her around could count as lifting.
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Lololol she's kinda big? I do have to admit I love curves on a girl :)
 
technique88 said:
Finally bro I was wondering web you'd come out of your sex cAve
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testosterone is king for tons of sex. best supplement ever.

howwedo107 said:
Lololol she's kinda big? I do have to admit I love curves on a girl :)
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kinda is an understatement, as weird as it seems to hear me think it in my head as i type it, this ones solely based on personality! this is the total opposite of how i usually operate.
 
superbeast668 said:
testosterone is king for tons of sex. best supplement ever.

kinda is an understatement, as weird as it seems to hear me think it in my head as i type it, this ones solely based on personality! this is the total opposite of how i usually operate.
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Am I the only one who gets their libido killed while on test lol and nice bro personality is where it is at! Looks fade eventually not the personality
 
howwedo107 said:
Am I the only one who gets their libido killed while on test lol and nice bro personality is where it is at! Looks fade eventually not the personality
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I'm right there with you bro...no sex drive at all :(
 
Toco 8 is back in stock on PPs site! Drop the clomid and grab some toco bro
 
Man from all you guys said test raises libido... If mine goes away yall better send me viagra
 
chrisbjohnson said:
thats what im saying, 4 weeks of DBOL @ the end will assure the gains will be mostly permanent...
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My reason for running SD my final 4 weeks :)
 
howwedo107 said:
Am I the only one who gets their libido killed while on test lol and nice bro personality is where it is at! Looks fade eventually not the personality
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My libido is awesome on test. I had to have it about five times a day and I ALWAYS had it on my mind lol. Lucky my girl is always up for it :D
 
technique88 said:
Toco 8 is back in stock on PPs site! Drop the clomid and grab some toco bro
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Thanks for the heads up bro. Have you used their test recovery stack before? Im considering using it with pct.
 
superbeast668 said:
Thanks for the heads up bro. Have you used their test recovery stack before? Im considering using it with pct.
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Drop Clomid and run toco? Curious to why?
 
superbeast668 said:
Thanks for the heads up bro. Have you used their test recovery stack before? Im considering using it with pct.
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I have not but the TRS with a low dosed serm seems very promising. I already have intimidate and testabolan or pct bit next cycle I will give the TRS a run.
 
Airborne42 said:
Drop Clomid and run toco? Curious to why?
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Right now he is using clomid in cycle to keep the balls full. During cycle it should be hcg but toco 8 would be fe next best thing. I don't like the idea of having clomid in your system for that long. Toco 8 helps with LH sensitivity.
 
technique88 said:
Right now he is using clomid in cycle to keep the balls full. During cycle it should be hcg but toco 8 would be fe next best thing. I don't like the idea of having clomid in your system for that long. Toco 8 helps with LH sensitivity.
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Word :-)
 
technique88 said:
Right now he is using clomid in cycle to keep the balls full. During cycle it should be hcg but toco 8 would be fe next best thing. I don't like the idea of having clomid in your system for that long. Toco 8 helps with LH sensitivity.
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Im only using it at 50mg eod for a few weeks bro. I dont have access to hcg and honestly the clomids doing a good job of it.
 
day 36. dosed 12.5mg exem, 2 capsulse of the Pro Trenazine (day 1). weight, 217(+10 total, probably more due to decreased body fat)

i took about 6 days off because my girl flew in to visit me. no big deal. i think i needed it. i think it may be why my numbers have been low and why i havent been able to shake the soreness. today was a freak show for sure.

it was arms day.

barbell curls
warmed up with the bar, 85x8, 85x8, 100x7*pr in for reps, 100x6

preacher curls
75x8, 100x8, 100x7 rp 3 rp 2- rp=rest pause

concentration curls
20x10, 25x10, 25x8, 25x8rp4rp2

hammer curls
25x10, 25x10, 25x10, triple drop set 35x7, 25x5x 15x6

vbar pushdowns
60x12, 80x10, 100x10, 120x8*pr weight and reps

close grip bench
135x12, 225x10, 245x10*pr reps, 275x8*pr reps

dips
bwx15, +45x12, +70x10*pr reps, +70x9

overhead extensions
75x10 for 4 sets.

i have a SERIOUS pump in my arms. i have some pictures, waiting for them to show up on my computer. I look pretty bloated and wet in them so i'm going to try to dry my self up a bit with a cleaner diet (ate like shipoopie while she was here) and some more AI. i will say i look A LOT more full, which surprised me because just looking in the mirror I'm not impressed and i dont think i look bigger. pictures dont lie though.

on a very good note, i think the eq has just about cleared my system fully. no more heart feeling like its going to rip out my chest and erratic heart beats from it. the more i think about it the more it seems almost like an anxiety attack almost, but theres nothing to be anxious over. idk. i might give the stuff another shot some day. just run it at a lower dose than 650 a week.
 
superbeast668 said:
day 36. dosed 12.5mg exem, 2 capsulse of the Pro Trenazine (day 1). weight, 217(+10 total, probably more due to decreased body fat)

i took about 6 days off because my girl flew in to visit me. no big deal. i think i needed it. i think it may be why my numbers have been low and why i havent been able to shake the soreness. today was a freak show for sure.

it was arms day.

barbell curls
warmed up with the bar, 85x8, 85x8, 100x7*pr in for reps, 100x6

preacher curls
75x8, 100x8, 100x7 rp 3 rp 2- rp=rest pause

concentration curls
20x10, 25x10, 25x8, 25x8rp4rp2

hammer curls
25x10, 25x10, 25x10, triple drop set 35x7, 25x5x 15x6

vbar pushdowns
60x12, 80x10, 100x10, 120x8*pr weight and reps

close grip bench
135x12, 225x10, 245x10*pr reps, 275x8*pr reps

dips
bwx15, +45x12, +70x10*pr reps, +70x9

overhead extensions
75x10 for 4 sets.

i have a SERIOUS pump in my arms. i have some pictures, waiting for them to show up on my computer. I look pretty bloated and wet in them so i'm going to try to dry my self up a bit with a cleaner diet (ate like shipoopie while she was here) and some more AI. i will say i look A LOT more full, which surprised me because just looking in the mirror I'm not impressed and i dont think i look bigger. pictures dont lie though.

on a very good note, i think the eq has just about cleared my system fully. no more heart feeling like its going to rip out my chest and erratic heart beats from it. the more i think about it the more it seems almost like an anxiety attack almost, but theres nothing to be anxious over. idk. i might give the stuff another shot some day. just run it at a lower dose than 650 a week.
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Aromasin will dry you out nicely bro! And yeah I noticed after I carb up and take a few days off my body thanks me and responds well with some killer workouts plus feeling full in the muscles is orgasmic
 
howwedo107 said:
Aromasin will dry you out nicely bro! And yeah I noticed after I carb up and take a few days off my body thanks me and responds well with some killer workouts plus feeling full in the muscles is orgasmic
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i just hope the aromasin doesnt kill my joints too bad.
 
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