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Well Dr. Prescirbed me Cialis every other day. I am feeling much better. I have not had any more aniexty lately. I was able to have sex last night with out Cialis but it really took a while to get things going plus it had been a week since we tried anything and two weeks since we actually did anything. I think the Cialis is going to do the trick and I should not have any more problems. Everything else is workting out just fine.
This is great news.
 
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This is great news.
Hey guys, been busy lately. Update. Doc precribed me Cialis 3 days a week. I take it Thurs/Sat/and Mondays. My wife works evenings and is off on Sundays and Mondays. By taking it this way I have it built up in my system pretty good by the time her weekend is here. It seems to be doing the trick. Yesterday I was having erections just sitting next her, touching her ect. We had sex after the kids went to bed with no problems. I still have a lot of anxiety though. Just can not seem to shke it. I feel great other than that. My family has a history of anxiety and depression, so I am going to the doc in Aug to check on this. My sex drive is getting better. I am taking Maca Root powder. I have been taking the powder for about two weeks now. I heard it takes a month to kick in, but once it does it works great from what I've read. Now the only problem I am having is with the cost of Cialis. Insurance will only cover 6 per month and doc wrote scrip for 12 per month. Still the 6 insurance does cover only saves me 20 bucks. I am spending 134 dollars a month for Cialis. Has anyone gotten this anywhere else for a better price. I know there are a million "pharmacies" on the net, but it's hard to find one that is not selling ripp off's. Thnaks
 

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Are you still on TRT as well (I think you were using gel ) or you have stopped TRT ?
 
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Are you still on TRT as well (I think you were using gel ) or you have stopped TRT ?
Yes. I apply two tubes of Testim a day. The testim improved everything but my libido and erections. The Cialis helps in this area. Actually, and I've read this from other people who take it this way, that by taking it every other day or every 72hrs, it seems to help increase the libido. At least for me it does. I think it is because I tend to get more erections throughout the day, which gives me more confindence in the bedroom at night, which in general makes me want sex more. Just wish it was not so damn expensive. I did read that Viagra's patent expires this year. I wonder if this will cause all the other ED drugs to drop in price.
 
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Yes. I apply two tubes of Testim a day. The testim improved everything but my libido and erections. The Cialis helps in this area. Actually, and I've read this from other people who take it this way, that by taking it every other day or every 72hrs, it seems to help increase the libido. At least for me it does. I think it is because I tend to get more erections throughout the day, which gives me more confindence in the bedroom at night, which in general makes me want sex more. Just wish it was not so damn expensive. I did read that Viagra's patent expires this year. I wonder if this will cause all the other ED drugs to drop in price.
Make sure you do blood test ASAP.
For years I was on Androgel then compounded Tcream.
Erections and nightly wood acceptable but only with use of Cialis twice/week.

I recently switched to Depo-T shots.
I see improvement.
Lasst week I did not used any Cialis, had a sex with out problem.

Not sure how to explain that but probably my dose is closer to what i need.

I would do this tests:
57 DHEA sulfate
58 Prolactin

61 Progesterone
62 Pregnenolone
63 Estradiol, Bioavailable
64 Estradiol, Free
65 Estradiol, Fractionated, serum
66 Estradiol, Ultra-sensitive (is part of fractionated)
67 Estrone,serum (is part of fractionated)
68 Estrogens, Total, Serum
69 Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
70 Testosterone Total (included in T panel)
71 Testosterone Free(included in T panel)
72 Testosterone Bioavailable(included in T panel)
73 SHBG(included in T panel)
 
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Make sure you do blood test ASAP.
For years I was on Androgel then compounded Tcream.
Erections and nightly wood acceptable but only with use of Cialis twice/week.

I recently switched to Depo-T shots.
I see improvement.
Lasst week I did not used any Cialis, had a sex with out problem.

Not sure how to explain that but probably my dose is closer to what i need.

I would do this tests:
57 DHEA sulfate
58 Prolactin

61 Progesterone
62 Pregnenolone
63 Estradiol, Bioavailable
64 Estradiol, Free
65 Estradiol, Fractionated, serum
66 Estradiol, Ultra-sensitive (is part of fractionated)
67 Estrone,serum (is part of fractionated)
68 Estrogens, Total, Serum
69 Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
70 Testosterone Total (included in T panel)
71 Testosterone Free(included in T panel)
72 Testosterone Bioavailable(included in T panel)
73 SHBG(included in T panel)
I have a physical in Aug. and I am going to ask Dr. to run a lot of these tests. he is pretty cool about that.

How is the Vitex working for you. I quite taking it out of paranoia of it killing my libido. I have noticed though that I come a lot quiker since I stopped taking it. I even had some PE every now and then. When I was on Vitex there where a few times I felt like I could just keep on going with no problems. Has it effected your libido any? I am tempted to start it up again at a lower dose.
 
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I have a physical in Aug. and I am going to ask Dr. to run a lot of these tests. he is pretty cool about that.

How is the Vitex working for you. I quite taking it out of paranoia of it killing my libido. I have noticed though that I come a lot quiker since I stopped taking it. I even had some PE every now and then. When I was on Vitex there where a few times I felt like I could just keep on going with no problems. Has it effected your libido any? I am tempted to start it up again at a lower dose.
I am still using Vitex, because I bought two bottles of it.
I can't say it makes any difference.
Too bad I will finish it before my next blood test, I do not actually know if it make any dent in my prolactin level.
 
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I have a physical in Aug. and I am going to ask Dr. to run a lot of these tests. he is pretty cool about that.

How is the Vitex working for you. I quite taking it out of paranoia of it killing my libido. I have noticed though that I come a lot quiker since I stopped taking it. I even had some PE every now and then. When I was on Vitex there where a few times I felt like I could just keep on going with no problems. Has it effected your libido any? I am tempted to start it up again at a lower dose.
Glad to hear you are getting the physical done bro!
 

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isn't ED/libido the reason you got on Testim ? Does your cialis not work without Testim ?

Yes. I apply two tubes of Testim a day. The testim improved everything but my libido and erections. The Cialis helps in this area. Actually, and I've read this from other people who take it this way, that by taking it every other day or every 72hrs, it seems to help increase the libido. At least for me it does. I think it is because I tend to get more erections throughout the day, which gives me more confindence in the bedroom at night, which in general makes me want sex more. Just wish it was not so damn expensive. I did read that Viagra's patent expires this year. I wonder if this will cause all the other ED drugs to drop in price.
 
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isn't ED/libido the reason you got on Testim ? Does your cialis not work without Testim ?
At first it did, but I was low enough on T that I lost any desire to have sex. I had no libido at all, tired all the time, had some weight gain, I was feeling lathargic, could not concentrate, was depressed, ect. I feel much better now. I am back in the gym and making great gains. It just took so long to get back to this stage (9 mos) that all the episodes of ED have left a pysch/mental scar. So I take Cialis three days a week. It not only helps me to have sex when I want, but I just feel better waking up with firmer erections, feel more confident, ect. Plus my Uro said it is good for you circulation. I still have anxiety not as bad, but still there. It runs in my family, my dad and brother suffer from bad anxiety. So still working on that.
 
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Update:

Well physcally I feel great. I have been hitting the gym pretty hard five days a week and have been making great gains. My energy levels are up. I am still able to have sex with no problems as long as I take the Cialis, but I still just can not seem to shake the anxiety for some reason. My wife works evenings so if we have sex it has two be on Mon/Tues when she is off. So I have no anxiety until then, then I have it all day Monday and Tuesday. Don't know why. As soon as she starts kssing me I'm hard. It is driving me crazy. I look forward all week to wife being off so we can make nookie, then I have anixety all day, sometimes so bad I almost do not want to have sex. Oh well at least I am able to have sex. I am thinking about going back on Vitex. I have had two different episodes of PE. When I was taking Vitex there where times when I seemed to be able to on longer than normal. I read it is better to take it before bed. Anyways I have never been one who took supplements or vitamens before, so how much is to much. Here is my list:

Am-30 minutes proir to gym-Creatine (1/2 tsp)
After gym Creatine (1/2 tsp)
Protein
Multi
Maca Powder with my protein (1tsp)
Glucoamine

Lunch-Glucosamine
(thinking about adding some Giseng here)

Before Dinner--Maca Powder (1tsp)

Evening--Vitex
Zinc (30mg)
Cialis (20mg-Thurs/Sat/Mon)
 

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Good to hear from you, Ed. Any idea where your T levels, etc are?

Good to hear from you. Was beginning to wonder where you were.

I see your list of supplements, but don't see any TRT or the like. Have you gotten spontaneously better?

BTW- what is "vitex", who told you about it and where did you get it?

Thanks-
 
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Good to hear from you. Was beginning to wonder where you were.

I see your list of supplements, but don't see any TRT or the like. Have you gotten spontaneously better?

BTW- what is "vitex", who told you about it and where did you get it?

Thanks-
Vitex is a hebal supplement.
Supposedly it can lower Prolactin.
Nobody who had a before and after test posted here.
I bought two botles of Vitex, finished over half of it, do not feel any difference. I plan on using the rest of it couple of weeks before my September blood test. I have my doubts at this time about Vitex effectiveness.
 

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For members with anxiety

OK if you are having anxiety issues all you need to do is go to Nutra Planet and get some Phenibut power. Mix about 1-1.5 grams in some sugar free koolaid or Orange juice and in about 2 hours you will feel more relaxation than you have ever felt. I do this on days that I know I will have sex and I feel a lot closer to my wife and I can go a whole lot longer. You have to be careful though with it because if you take too much you will get a drunk feeling (which I like myself) also, if you take it for a long time you body will get used to it so I recommend one week on and one week off or just use it occasionally. Sometime I will take 9 mgs of Yohimbine before I take the Phenibut (Phenibut blunts the negative effects of stimulants) and it makes me a beast in the bedroom. I sometimes take the Phenibut in a Nootropic stack that consists of L-tyrosine,Piractem,ALCAR,Choline Citrate,PLCAR and sometimes a little PEA. I can do this even though I have low test (about to go on TRT soon). I basically try to strengthen my libido from a different mechanism (mental aspect) and bypass the fact that I have low Test. For prolactin forget about Vitex, that stuff is retarded. Get some L-dopa, You can find straight L-dopa by doing a google search. I am using a product right now called Aspire36 which is all natural and it works better than Viagra and Levitra for me. Hope this helps.

http://suprememuscle.com/product/780/phenibut-powder.html

http://suprememuscle.com/product/483/piracetam.html
SupremeMuscle.com: L-Tyrosine (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
SupremeMuscle.com: Choline Citrate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
 
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Good to hear from you. Was beginning to wonder where you were.

I see your list of supplements, but don't see any TRT or the like. Have you gotten spontaneously better?

BTW- what is "vitex", who told you about it and where did you get it?

Thanks-
I take some time off from the boards every once just to clear the head. It helps just to take a break from all this every now an then.

Yes I am still on Testim. My T levels seems to be doing fine with it. It just my head and anxiety at this point.

Vitex is supposed to help lower prolactin. Like Janz I am unsure if it really works or not, but I do know that after I was on it for a while I did not have any PE and on occasion was able to last longer than usual.
 
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OK if you are having anxiety issues all you need to do is go to Nutra Planet and get some Phenibut power. Mix about 1-1.5 grams in some sugar free koolaid or Orange juice and in about 2 hours you will feel more relaxation than you have ever felt. I do this on days that I know I will have sex and I feel a lot closer to my wife and I can go a whole lot longer. You have to be careful though with it because if you take too much you will get a drunk feeling (which I like myself) also, if you take it for a long time you body will get used to it so I recommend one week on and one week off or just use it occasionally. Sometime I will take 9 mgs of Yohimbine before I take the Phenibut (Phenibut blunts the negative effects of stimulants) and it makes me a beast in the bedroom. I sometimes take the Phenibut in a Nootropic stack that consists of L-tyrosine,Piractem,ALCAR,Choline Citrate,PLCAR and sometimes a little PEA. I can do this even though I have low test (about to go on TRT soon). I basically try to strengthen my libido from a different mechanism (mental aspect) and bypass the fact that I have low Test. For prolactin forget about Vitex, that stuff is retarded. Get some L-dopa, You can find straight L-dopa by doing a google search. I am using a product right now called Aspire36 which is all natural and it works better than Viagra and Levitra for me. Hope this helps.

http://suprememuscle.com/product/780/phenibut-powder.html

http://suprememuscle.com/product/483/piracetam.html
SupremeMuscle.com: L-Tyrosine (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
SupremeMuscle.com: Choline Citrate (100 grams) By NutraPlanet
Thanks a lot Hyde12. I think I may try that Phenibut. I feel great all week. During the day when I joke with wife or she kisses me I have no problem getting an erection, but when I know we are going to have sex the anxiety sets in. This is why I have the Cialis. Still just can not seem to shake the anxeity for some reason even when with Cialis I have only had one problem of ED in the last three to four months and thats having sex twice a week. Wife says it will just take a while to get through it and we should just work through it. Great wife. Very understanding. How does the Aspire36 work. Do you take it every day or just before sex?
 

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Thanks a lot Hyde12. I think I may try that Phenibut. I feel great all week. During the day when I joke with wife or she kisses me I have no problem getting an erection, but when I know we are going to have sex the anxiety sets in. This is why I have the Cialis. Still just can not seem to shake the anxeity for some reason even when with Cialis I have only had one problem of ED in the last three to four months and thats having sex twice a week. Wife says it will just take a while to get through it and we should just work through it. Great wife. Very understanding. How does the Aspire36 work. Do you take it every day or just before sex?
The Aspire36 lasts 2-3 days just like cialis.
 
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How are you doing bro ?
I am feeling really good. Anxiety is still there but getting better much better. It does not effect me as much. Still on Testim and Cialis, though I am able to have sex without if it is unplanned, spur of the moment. Everything seems to be going very well. My wife even said I have been acting much better the past month. I have two samples of Aspire 36 to try, just have not gotten around to trying yet. If it works 36 dollars would be much better than the 80 dollars I pay for Cialis. I still get on here to read the posts just have not been posting my self lately. I am still figuring all this out so I do not want to give ill advice.
 
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Another update. I am still feeling really good. I still have a little anxiety right before sex, but I am able to have sex with out any ade of Cialis, Viagra, ect. I just have to relax which is eaiser said than done, but works. Wife is really understanding and actually likes taking it nice a slow until we are get hot and heavy. So hopefully I keep getting better and before long all the performance anxiety will be gone and I will be back to myself.
 

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What exactly are you taking, Ed?

Curious-- Are you still on TRT? I see you are taking Cialis, but what else are you doing and what is your blood work showing?

Glad to see you doing/feeling better!
 
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Curious-- Are you still on TRT? I see you are taking Cialis, but what else are you doing and what is your blood work showing?

Glad to see you doing/feeling better!
I do not go back for blood work again until december. My T was 935 last time. Still on TRT. Still haveing a few problems more pysch than anything. If it is spur of the moment or unpland then I have no problems having sex, if I have all day to think about it then I tend to get worked up and can not have sex. The Cialis works great though I have been trying to come off of it. I have had some success with out but still have a lot of anxiety. Might be better to just stay on it for a while so I will be more relaxed.
 
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jansz, how many mgs. of cyp are you taking a week
my weekly dose is:
=0.255*200*7/2=178.5mg/week

I am on E2D schedule

25.5units each shot
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Anastrozole 0.33*7/2=1.155cc/week
33 units
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380iu HCG
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T+Anastrozole one day
next day HCG
 

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