Strong stimulated pre-workout ingredients?

sina

Banned
It's been awhile I haven't been here. I know most of you purchase bulk ingredients and just mix/formulate ingredients to your likings. I have insomnia and very busy with school getting my PhD! I used to love Geranium/1-3DMAA this stuff worked great for studying, training and all that. It was like crack...

Anyways I am looking for an ingredient to benefit not only in the gym but something that would make me very jittery/alert/in-the-zone and maybe euphoria? I typically take Vyvanse (A form of adderall) and it works okay meh... Since Geranium/1,3DMAA is banned what is out there that is good? I was thinking about this for a pre-workout / energy boost...

~ 400-800mg Caffeine Anhydrous (Vivarin tablets)
~ Niacin (With Flush apparently a study shown niacin with Flush is more effective than Flush-free)
~ Yohimbine HCL
~ Phenylethylamine HCL
~ Agmatine Sulfate 1.2g ( Friends said they took 1.5g, 2g, 3g. No extra noticable benefits compared to 1-1.2g)
~ Simple-carb source (Vitargo S2 or Karbolyn)
~ Creatine Nitrate (CN2) or Creatine HCL otherwise both.

Additional perhaps Test-boosting may be great extra to the stack...
~Horny Goat Weed
~MACA/Tribulus
~DHEA (Although I hear not good unless you are 35 years +)

Post-workout Creatine
~ (GDA) R-ALA / Chromium / Vanadyl
~ Creatine HCL 1.5g (is this good enough for a daily-dosage?)
~ Creatine Nitrate (not sure on good effective dosage
~ 2-3g Micronize Creapure mono

Aminos, all that i'll get to that later.
 
1,3 isn't banned. There was a lot of sabre rattling, but nothing has come down the pipe (yet).
 
Can you get 1,3 in bulk? I'm skeptical about companies selling it. Such as True Nutrition, Smart Powders.
 
sina said:
Can you get 1,3 in bulk? I'm skeptical about companies selling it. Such as True Nutrition, Smart Powders.
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As in powder? Not sure, but I know that SP has the same supplier as Primaforce and Scivation.
 
Craze hits you good too.
 
Muscle Marinade...
Give that a look bud, may suit your needs.
 
I've got 4 bottles of Nutra geranium in my hoard. Bunch of Dexaprine also. Good once in a while to open a cap into Hemavol or Condense or any PWO for that matter. MM is pretty smooth and tasty as far as stims go!
 
I'd check out Lecheek's SpeedX3's profile. It has a couple of the items you listed in blue in it and had me feeling exactly how you described that you'd like to feel.
 
sina said:
Can you get 1,3 in bulk? I'm skeptical about companies selling it. Such as True Nutrition, Smart Powders.
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One of those companies is g2g man. True Nutrition is a top notch place and I've never even heard of anyone getting dubed by them. Smart powders is ehhhh sometimes.I'm waiting for a response from them after I ordered one thing and they basically shipped me something else with a new label slapped on top...which i peeled off. It was protein though—but stillll.I've never been a crazy fan of DMAA...just take some EC stack
 
That's a lot of stims. Your asking for sides. Adrenal fatigue, over stimulated nervous system. It may keep you wired. But from a training aspect it will suffer. More is Not always better. Ever check your blood pressure on that many stems?
 
BigMikeC said:
That's a lot of stims. Your asking for sides. Adrenal fatigue, over stimulated nervous system. It may keep you wired. But from a training aspect it will suffer. More is Not always better. Ever check your blood pressure on that many stems?
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Werd!

Look into nootropics,
 
Craze is awesome. Axon+Demiurge stack from Antaeus Labs is spot on, especially if you want that "in the zone" feeling. No crash either.
 
look into muscle marinade!
 
SNS Adrena-G can still be found. 25mg 1,3D per cap. Throw some caffeine tabs and ergobolic (I swear this increases stimulant sensitivity) into the mix and you've got a great combo.
 
Rodja said:
1,3 isn't banned. There was a lot of sabre rattling, but nothing has come down the pipe (yet).
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Depends where you're from ;) banned where I am.

8 cans of red bull and you're good to go
 
Airborne42 said:
No MM is not discontinued
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Better not be! BTW, was the grape flavor as bad as people say? Fresh Fruit is pretty good and even better when some BCAAs are mixed in from time to time.
 
Jiigzz said:
Depends where you're from ;) banned where I am.

8 cans of red bull and you're good to go
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BRB heart attack from drinking 8 cans of p*ss

Airborne42 said:
This!!!
Max Intense or Craze
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Idk what it is.. but MI doesn't do anything for me. I can't even feel 1.5 scoops.


OP- since you have such a stim addiction check out VPX Friction. It has 400mg of caffeine per serving I believe.
 
Lol have some MM 20min b4 playing COD, u get complete tunnel vision, and forget its just a video game, that shiit starts feeling like real life, :)
 
Grambo said:
It wasn't THAT bad no. Compared to other flavors yes. And it got old to drink after several uses so made it worse haha
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Craze did that for me... I'm a MM fan through and through. It's what's on the menu this month. MM in my cup, PRs on my Plate
 
mpaquett said:
Idk what it is.. but MI doesn't do anything for me. I can't even feel 1.5 scoops.

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Damn, that sucks bro. There are very very minimal reports of maximize intense not working for people, at least that we are aware of. But, I def understand you, because I've used supplements everyone raves over and felt nothing before, we are all different. It truly does have a very complex and strong stim blend though.

Mike
 
BigMikeC said:
That's a lot of stims. Your asking for sides. Adrenal fatigue, over stimulated nervous system. It may keep you wired. But from a training aspect it will suffer. More is Not always better. Ever check your blood pressure on that many stems?
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Well said. That much stuff is unnecessarily high. Did I read correct that you want to take 400-800 mg caffeine preworkout? Be careful man. The most I've ever taken was 200 and that was too much.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
The strongest preworkout is MGN blood rush pump. Approx 3x stronger than MM (not a good thing)
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Airborne42 said:
That's scary lol
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1,125 mg of stimulants; mix of caffiene and 1,3 and they say you can take up to 1-3 scoops...

I read the break down to be 1 gram of caf and 125mg of 1,3.

No one should need that product.

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mr.cooper69 said:
The strongest preworkout is MGN blood rush pump. Approx 3x stronger than MM (not a good thing)
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Unfortunately, some will see that as an endorsement and will be interested in buying it.
 
criticalbench said:
Damn, that sucks bro. There are very very minimal reports of maximize intense not working for people, at least that we are aware of. But, I def understand you, because I've used supplements everyone raves over and felt nothing before, we are all different. It truly does have a very complex and strong stim blend though.

Mike
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I know. I don't even know what it is. I've taken a scoop and a half on more than one occasion and will literally not feel any difference. Sucks to suck I suppose. :( I've still got over half a tub of it sitting around.
 
mpaquett said:
I know. I don't even know what it is. I've taken a scoop and a half on more than one occasion and will literally not feel any difference. Sucks to suck I suppose. :( I've still got over half a tub of it sitting around.
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Thats really crazy bro.. sorry to hear that! Glad you found others that work for you though!

Mike
 
Maximize Intense, Razor8, and Muscle Marinade hit the hardest for me...


Mesomorph is quickly becoming one of my top favorites
 
Razor 8 was the strongest I've felt. 1,3dim, caffeine, yohimbine hcl...so strong it gave me stim dik so I haven't touched it sense
 
Sean1332 said:
Razor 8 was the strongest I've felt. 1,3dim, caffeine, yohimbine hcl...so strong it gave me stim dik so I haven't touched it sense
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am I the only guy in the world that doesnt suffer from "stim dick" and "crash" when using a product with DMAA?
 
lol dude I was bad when I first started liftin. I think at one point I did 3 tubs of jack3d at 3 scoops and then into 2 tubs of razor 8 consecutively with no stim breaks ever. now I'm perfectly content with 150-200mg of caffeine
 
Sean1332 said:
lol dude I was bad when I first started liftin. I think at one point I did 3 tubs of jack3d at 3 scoops and then into 2 tubs of razor 8 consecutively with no stim breaks ever. now I'm perfectly content with 150-200mg of caffeine
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3 years and counting...no stim break. But yes Im wayyyy overdue for one. I was fine for a long while with 1 scoop of MaxIntense or 1 scoop of MaximizeV2....now Im creeping up to the 1.5 - 1.75 scoop range... Perhaps 2 weeks Christmas/Winter Break would be a good time
 
Loudy Rowdy said:
3 years and counting...no stim break. But yes Im wayyyy overdue for one. I was fine for a long while with 1 scoop of MaxIntense or 1 scoop of MaximizeV2....now Im creeping up to the 1.5 - 1.75 scoop range... Perhaps 2 weeks Christmas/Winter Break would be a good time
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I never used to but I do now. I like feeling like im taking a prewo for the first time ever after a few weeks off from stims haha brings back memories of og nano vapor years ago haha bleh

I get just as good of workouts w/o stims or prewo, except maybe endurance, but I do need the stim boost after work or early morning. Im stickin with condense, hemavol, or sometimes just bulk pharma grade caffeine
 
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