I'm assuming it was the alpha y and damn near 450 mg of caffeine . I didn't realize it had more caffeine. Was super dirtythat sounds like how y makes me react
I'm assuming it was the alpha y and damn near 450 mg of caffeine . I didn't realize it had more caffeine. Was super dirtythat sounds like how y makes me react
Me too.that sounds like how y makes me react
Never had it with y hcl, but now I see why everyone warns against alpha y lol. I don't even see the point of it in a preMe too.
3mg of AY is on the high side and would make me feel like death too. I don’t like using Y or AY but if I do it has to be at 1mg max for me.Never had it with y hcl, but now I see why everyone warns against alpha y lol. I don't even see the point of it in a pre
i’ve bitched about it for years.Never had it with y hcl, but now I see why everyone warns against alpha y lol. I don't even see the point of it in a pre
It's the worst thing humanity ever created. I wonder that its mechanism of action, cause none of other noradrenalinic drugs ever gave same side effectsi’ve bitched about it for years.
I would not be surprised to find out that it is the work of The Devil, himself.It's the worst thing humanity ever created. I wonder that its mechanism of action, cause none of other noradrenalinic drugs ever gave same side effects
On the first day the devil created dieting/calorie deficit. Maybe Yohimbine on the second?I would not be surprised to find out that it is the work of The Devil, himself.
Both Y and AY can have those negative sides not just AY especially in higher doses.Never had it with y hcl, but now I see why everyone warns against alpha y lol. I don't even see the point of it in a pre
with you 100%Both Y and AY can have those negative sides not just AY especially in higher doses.
I don’t see the need for adding it in any pre because even when dosed very low it still just makes for a dirty stim feeling.
Extremely dirty , but ycl never caused anything like it lol. I took it in pure caps . Actually like ycl.Both Y and AY can have those negative sides not just AY especially in higher doses.
I don’t see the need for adding it in any pre because even when dosed very low it still just makes for a dirty stim feeling.
To be fair the rancid taste thing could be from anything really not just the AY.Extremely dirty , but ycl never caused anything like it lol. I took it in pure caps . Actually like ycl.
Another thing, the day after, I had a HORRIBLE taste in my mouth that I couldn't get rid of. Alpha y seems to linger. Every other pre I've used was just y free or ycl. Alpha y sucks
Totally just something I noted. I still felt a bit off yesterday and much better today. Still finished the entire workout, lol was just uncomfortableTo be fair the rancid taste thing could be from anything really not just the AY.
Coulda been some badddd tuna!To be fair the rancid taste thing could be from anything really not just the AY.
Yeah man, the caps are a precise dose.Extremely dirty , but ycl never caused anything like it lol. I took it in pure caps . Actually like ycl.
Another thing, the day after, I had a HORRIBLE taste in my mouth that I couldn't get rid of. Alpha y seems to linger. Every other pre I've used was just y free or ycl. Alpha y sucks
I promise I did not pull a @PunkrockerCoulda been some badddd tuna!
By seeing who's product messes customers up more? lmaoYeah man, the caps are a precise dose.
I like up to 12.5 grams of primaforce yohimbine hcl
BUT when it’s in a scoop of preworkout, you never know how much you’re getting, let alone stacked with other stuff and that can cause sides.
It’s like all these shady pre workout companies are constantly trying to out-do each other.
You would have LOVED this epic fuckin stack…But outbreak went soft and reformulated this pre to some weak generic bs….The one in the photo had J Regia. Real clean, smooth, no crash…for me, The perfect pre would be
Citrulline 4-6 g
Beet root 1-2g
L- Tyrosine 500mg
Resveratrol 500mg
Vaso 6 300mg
Caffeine 200mg
DMHA 200mg
https://illpumpyouup.com/outbreak-nutrition-pathogen/?attribute_flavor=Double+Barrel+Berry&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_JWOBhDRARIsANymNOaKZP2htSWuDcdlV6Q6N3x8B9WWmJ4WWBOHYSDo_9izzyhhnDKL7cUaAndTEALw_wcB ?You would have LOVED this epic fuckin stack…But outbreak went soft and reformulated this pre to some weak generic bs….The one in the photo had J Regia. Real clean, smooth, no crash…
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yeah amphetamines are like that, I remember back in college I took adderall to write a paper, ended up grinding some League and CSGO instead lol. Good times.That's one interesting thing with pwo's also, that they can produce different kind of stimulus/energy and sometimes some mixes, that don't look anything special can be great. Some are spiked of course, but I don't think Pathogen was. Pathogen gave me this good aggression and energy in the weight room, but didn't keep me up at night or make me more talkative or anything like that. Perfect for WO's.
I bet stuff like Excelsior and the likes fits better for social events, partying, shcool work, writing, creative stuff and those type of things. I remember with Craze some people telling they actually skipped their training and stayed home to play the guitar for example or went out for drinks, rather than to the gym, lol.
Har har harrrrI promise I did not pull a @Punkrocker
Thanks for the heads up!That's one interesting thing with pwo's also, that they can produce different kind of stimulus/energy and sometimes some mixes, that don't look anything special can be great. Some are spiked of course, but I don't think Pathogen was. Pathogen gave me this good kind of aggression and energy in the weight room, but didn't keep me up at night or make me more talkative or anything like that. Perfect for WO's.
I bet stuff like Excelsior and the likes fits better for social events, partying, shcool work, writing, creative stuff and those type of things. I remember with Craze some people telling they actually skipped their training and stayed home to play the guitar for example or went out for drinks, rather than to the gym, lol.
I have been able to tolerance supps with Y on a few single occasions but rather sooner than later even a small dose can make me feel like my heart is skipping a beat or double beating and even a tiny dose can badly impact my mood.On the first day the devil created dieting/calorie deficit. Maybe Yohimbine on the second?
I am intrigued by bpc 157, was so intrigued that I was considering even buying a gram whole sale cheaply but am inexperienced with repacking and storing sensitive compounds.here's some mice studies on bpc 157 for amphetamines
Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 attenuates chronic amphetamine-induced behavior disturbances - PubMed
In summary, gastric pentadecapeptide BPC 157 (ie, both microg- and ng-BPC 157 regimens) attenuated chronic amphetamine disturbances. This effect was present throughout the observation period at a statistically significant level. Therefore, it seems that this gastric pentadecapeptide BPC 157 has...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.govA novel pentadecapeptide, BPC 157, blocks the stereotypy produced acutely by amphetamine and the development of haloperidol-induced supersensitivity to amphetamine
A novel gastric pentadecapeptide, BPC 157, has been shown to attenuate different lesions (i.e., gastrointestinal tract, liver, pancreas, somatosensory…www.sciencedirect.com
I think it might just make me process all stuff faster. alcohol definitely gets metabolized faster
where did you get it whole sale? and fruit fasting is a thing? you trying to be a fruitarian and die of pancreas cancer like Steve jobs?I am intrigued by bpc 157, was so intrigued that I was considering even buying a gram whole sale cheaply but am inexperienced with repacking and storing sensitive compounds.
But right from the first dose it feels all good for me.
Just dosed some today after having messed myself up with gingerbreadmen, sodas and chocolate over Christmas lol. Even had a fruit fast today. Two bananas, two apples and a bowl ofoatmeal and am about to go to bed before the munchies get to me lol
I ordered Hazard Ashes pwo and really enjoying it. It's definitely not spiked with meth analogues but hits hard and just right. I prefer it more than any Dark Labs products.So….. any new stim preworkout? Lol
Yeah lol… I prefer to stay away from meth my name isn’t crystal.I ordered Hazard Ashes pwo and really enjoying it. It's definitely not spiked with meth analogues but hits hard and just right. I prefer it more than any Dark Labs products.
Eria jarneses is usually N-Phenethyl DimethylamineYeah lol… I prefer to stay away from meth my name isn’t crystal.
I will check this out. I just purchased Flame. It’s not shabby. Please don’t tell me it’s methy lol.
It's great, you won't be dissappointed!Was in the market for a new pre-workout and decided to go with Zeus. Should have it in a few days.
Your review is what convinced me. I got the Gummy flavor.It's great, you won't be dissappointed!
It’s one of my favorites. It always delivers for me.Was in the market for a new pre-workout and decided to go with Zeus. Should have it in a few days.
the flavor is extremely light and on the sour side. you could mix this in very little water and be fine.Your review is what convinced me. I got the Gummy flavor.
You don’t use Zeus for the flavor lolthe flavor is extremely light and on the sour side. you could mix this in very little water and be fine.
It’s one of my favorites. It always delivers for me.
My local support shop just some Zeus in, so it's def worth grabbing some eh? Strong pre's w/o any form if Y are rare these daysYou don’t use Zeus for the flavor lol
Personally, I think it tastes very good.
Yes! A definite purchase imo. It’s basically a stronger version of Sparta OG Kraken.My local support shop just some Zeus in, so it's def worth grabbing some eh? Strong pre's w/o any form if Y are rare these days
Very nice, prolly will grab 2 to start then, lolYes! A definite purchase imo. It’s basically a stronger version of Sparta OG Kraken.
at $50/$60/$70 a tub, it should be flavored well. i’m never going to repeat buy something that tastes like ass…..unless it works like craze or excelsior.You don’t use Zeus for the flavor lol
Personally, I think it tastes very good.
If you tried raw DHMA, DMAA, Eria J and amp citrate you would understand the difficulty companies would have creating a great tasting stim product.at $50/$60/$70 a tub, it should be flavored well. i’m never going to repeat buy something that tastes like ass…..unless it works like craze or excelsior.
I'll take unflavored pleaseat $50/$60/$70 a tub, it should be flavored well. i’m never going to repeat buy something that tastes like ass…..unless it works like craze or excelsior.
Yes! A definite purchase imo. It’s basically a stronger version of Sparta OG Kraken.
Very nice, prolly will grab 2 to start then, lol
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