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Stim-Free PWO's On PH Cycle?

dusty44

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Just want to see what most people here use for pre-workout while on aas/ph cycles. I have been told by many not to use anything containing stims or caffeine because of the greater risk of BP and hypertension. I have ignored that in the past, and have usually used stuff like LGI's Fully Loaded, Assault, C4 etc. I have really enjoyed the Fully Loaded but I find it harder and harder to sleep and control BP while taking it during a cycle (no matter how early I take it). Looking more for an all in one supplement, or at least the fewest amount of combo's so that I don't have to have so many tubs of this and that I have to pull from. Focus and pump are both important, but I guess the former is the most desired.
 
I usually mix something up from single ingredients, like potassium nitrate, citrulline malate, and agmatine, for example. Nitrates will even help with bp problems on cycle.

You could throw in some beta-alanine in there if you like the tingling sensation pre workout too.

There's plenty of non-stim ingredients that have data showing performance enhancing effects. My favorite single ingredient is definitely citrulline malate though.
 
I always saved any extra supps like pwo for pct, to keep strength up, since on cycle once you get going in the gym your golden (in my experience).

Having said that, s.a.n performance CM2... It's. creatine nitrate formula that also contains beta alanine and arginine. It gives a great pump and is simple, and Stim free. If I wanna go real big I toss in a little hemavol as well (also Stim free).

I personally love creatine nitrate...you get the strength/endurance benefits of creatine, and the pumps and vascularity that comes with nitrates. Regardless of if you use it on cycle, it makes a nice addition to a well rounded pct.
 
I save all the supps like this for PCT. Like justeat said.

Keep stuff out of the cycle that may induce high blood pressure.
 
Thanks for the info. I had forgotten all about Hemavol being stim free. Never tried it but everyone that has seems to love it.
 
IMO save the pump stuff for PCT since pumps on cycle are insane. Look into citrulline malate, focus xt (200mg caffein/serving + extra goodies), or like mw1 said caffein free focus xt.

Stims are usually ok on cycle IMO. Just don't over do it.
 
Yeah that's why I asked. I've always used stims and pwo's while on and never had problems at all until recently - something has changed. Anxiety, insomnia, depressed mood, BP. Must be old age kicking in.
 
dusty44 said:
Yeah that's why I asked. I've always used stims and pwo's while on and never had problems at all until recently - something has changed. Anxiety, insomnia, depressed mood, BP. Must be old age kicking in.
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Damn ****ing old age.
 
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