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I’ll be cruising on 150mg test enan after my current cycle of epistane
 
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Disguised as TRT, I'm cruising and blasting forever.
 

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I was just curious I’m still running a 400 blend test 1/2 cc twice week. I’m loving the results so stayed on it
 
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Anyone trying this should be aware of some weird correlations:

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Who stays on continuous run of test
Well it's supid to stay on test if you wanna have kids. If you're done with everything and your test has been going down with age it's a diffetent thing. The results will not be like that forever. You get far superior results by coming off a cycle and let your body receptors be fresh again
 
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What? Shrinking my nuts? Easy... Just skip PCT. :)



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When you hit legendary status we'll be out of names and just take the name from the Stephen king movie (it). Or the classic (he who walks behind the rows). You know you're special when people don't know your name :)
 
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Disguised as TRT, I'm cruising and blasting forever.
Question for you regarding blasting and cruising.

If I am on TRT and then I go on a cycle of a higher dose of test e for 12-14 weeks, would I need to wait 12-14 weeks before cycling again?

I ask because I know time on = time off, but do not know if the same rules apply.
 
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Question for you regarding blasting and cruising.

If I am on TRT and then I go on a cycle of a higher dose of test e for 12-14 weeks, would I need to wait 12-14 weeks before cycling again?

I ask because I know time on = time off, but do not know if the same rules apply.
There are no rules. Blast and Cruise (Blast = full blown cycle/Cruise = TRT dose of test -or slightly higher) I know people that blast forever (or very long time) changing compounds every 6-12 weeks.
What I personally think: The cruise is important to "reset" -and get lipids in range, and take stress off organs, IMHO -and should be test at max 250mg/w, I prefer 175mg/w. I may use 50mg proviron/d to help with libido and suppress aromatization -other than by AI. I cruise at least for 2 month before blasting again. I now exclusively use Test undecanoate. For me its by far superior to any other ester, no matter if others say: Test=test.
 
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I think high chief is your next title. Ive been doing a lot of thinking at the gym clearly
 
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I think high chief is your next title. Ive been doing a lot of thinking at the gym clearly
High chief is out ranked by:
"Roid Pope" The nut-less holiness -until Jesudrol comes back.
 
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I talked to Jesus earlier and hes not Coming back.
Lets stay on topic, before we both get burned by a lynch mob, LOL.
 
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150 a week? Is it expensive

That's very little but you don't wanna run test all the time if you don't have to. It doesn't add more gains if that's what you think. Coming off let's your body respond better the next time. Staying on all the time and your body will get used to It and gains will be very slow. Completely pointless except if your normal testosterone production has stopped working
 
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That's very little but you don't wanna run test all the time if you don't have to. It doesn't add more gains if that's what you think. Coming off let's your body respond better the next time. Staying on all the time and your body will get used to It and gains will be very slow. Completely pointless except if your normal testosterone production has stopped working
I don’t personally believe in desensitization of the androgen receptors with such small doses. 150mg would basically put most people at the higher end of the ref range, and there should be no reason for a upper-normal level of test to cause desensitization imo.
 
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I've been on for 3 years... Cycle between cyp, enanthate, and sust. Test is test. I do not come off, but sometimes lower the dose for a month or two. Every now and then blasting with some orals
 
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Well it's supid to stay on test if you wanna have kids. If you're done with everything and your test has been going down with age it's a diffetent thing. The results will not be like that forever. You get far superior results by coming off a cycle and let your body receptors be fresh again
My uncle has been on and off, mostly on for 25 years... Just had a baby boy at 45. Kid is swole. Big arms, torso, six pack at 4!
 
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Well it's supid to stay on test if you wanna have kids. If you're done with everything and your test has been going down with age it's a diffetent thing. The results will not be like that forever. You get far superior results by coming off a cycle and let your body receptors be fresh again
But yes he is older
 
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But yes he is older
Yeah and even then you can't take one individual and say he did it so I'm gonna be fine or that's the right way to go. Now he probably had a reason for it such as trt. Fact is still that coming off will give much better results than staying on all the time since you'd have to increase the dosage more drastically cause your body gets used to It.
 
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Well it's supid to stay on test if you wanna have kids. If you're done with everything and your test has been going down with age it's a diffetent thing. The results will not be like that forever. You get far superior results by coming off a cycle and let your body receptors be fresh again
Actually bro if we lined up 50 guys.
25 who blast and cruise
25 who come completely off , pct wait 3 months , then jump back on.
The guys who blast and cruise will have kept more of their gains
 
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Normal test levels wouldn't "desensitize" receptors.
It keeps you normal instead of spending weeks trying to get back to normal.
Also has nothing to do with age.
If your going to cycle often most people will agree staying on enough test to keep you normal just makes sense and is a better choice for your body.
 
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Actually bro if we lined up 50 guys.
25 who blast and cruise
25 who come completely off , pct wait 3 months , then jump back on.
The guys who blast and cruise will have kept more of their gains
The well obviously you'll keep more if your on all the time. It's still far more effective to build muscle not doing it. You'll cruise for 6 months vs 3 months on 3 months off and you'll get more pronounced results with the latter. If you do a test cycle you know the gains will stop greatly after a few weeks.
 
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The three months off is where your going to loose your gains.
The month of pct where your hormones are shot.
Your body is scrambling to recover from what you just put it through.
Where as a cruise you go from extremely high test to normal levels.
Your able to keep more gains if you cruise.
I'm not sure that's even debatable.
Why do you think people cruise?
Just because they are old and need therapy?
Not at all they want to keep their gains and not rollercoaster their hormones.
 
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Yeah and even then you can't take one individual and say he did it so I'm gonna be fine or that's the right way to go. Now he probably had a reason for it such as trt. Fact is still that coming off will give much better results than staying on all the time since you'd have to increase the dosage more drastically cause your body gets used to It.
No way dude no trt. He's just been on the sauce for 25 years. He's taken everything. You name it, he's taken it. With rec drugs HGH etc. His kid is like a mini hulk
 
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Cruising is not being "on"
Cruising is 100-150 mg of test EW
Being on all the time would be something over 200mg.
That's not what cruising means.
 
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Don't do that to your body.... On and off and on and off etc... If you're joining the darkiside, you either dip your toe in once, or stay.
 
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I'm also confused on how you think it more effective to build muscle coming off all the way.
Some how getting yourself slowly backup to normal is more effective than keeping yourself normal the whole time?
 
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I know what you mean but you don't know what I mean. It's not as simple as saying you'll loose all the gains. You have a harder time keeping through Pct yes but you'd have to add more to gain more after a while. With stopping the cycle all together you start fresh and if we take time in to account youre gonna have more gains during a shorter span than cruising. The biggest problem is that people do the wrong pct thinking they only need nolva and clomid.
 
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I know what you mean but you don't know what I mean. It's not as simple as saying you'll loose all the gains. You have a harder time keeping through Pct yes but you'd have to add more to gain more after a while. With stopping the cycle all together you start fresh and if we take time in to account youre gonna have more gains during a shorter span than cruising. The biggest problem is that people do the wrong pct thinking they only need nolva and clomid.
I dont know bro.I'm sticking with the obvious.
If you plan on doing lots of cycles for years to come staying on enough test to keep you normal is healthier and will help you keep your gains.
Bit maybe I'm missing something.
 

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I don't think androgen receptors undergo true desensitization. the body is constantly gaining and losing them anyway.... and in the presence of high androgen levels, the body increases androgen receptor density.

with that being said, I agree with the High Chief Grandpa..... backing off/coming off is also about overall health, etc.
 
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I don't think androgen receptors undergo true desensitization. the body is constantly gaining and losing them anyway.... and in the presence of high androgen levels, the body increases androgen receptor density.

with that being said, I agree with the High Chief Grandpa..... back off/coming off is also about overall health, etc.
Of course not. How could normal levels desensitize?
 
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The only real argument for not cruising would be youth or the ability to have kids
 
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I'm also confused on how you think it more effective to build muscle coming off all the way.
Some how getting yourself slowly backup to normal is more effective than keeping yourself normal the whole time?
If you cruise after a cycle you probably won't loose much gains at all but you also won't gain much more for a long time cause your body gets used to the dosage. If you go off, your body will respond even at a very low dose of test and if you keep the gains which you can with a proper pct. That in my opinion is an healthier option. Of course you can always keep test low but you will also experience less gains on each cycle.
 
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I don't think androgen receptors undergo true desensitization. the body is constantly gaining and losing them anyway.... and in the presence of high androgen levels, the body increases androgen receptor density.

with that being said, I agree with the High Chief Grandpa..... backing off/coming off is also about overall health, etc.
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If you cruise after a cycle you probably won't loose much gains at all but you also won't gain much more for a long time cause your body gets used to the dosage. If you go off, your body will respond even at a very low dose of test and if you keep the gains which you can with a proper pct. That in my opinion is an healthier option. Of course you can always keep test low but you will also experience less gains on each cycle.
Absolutely and you're entitled to your opinion. But again I have to disagree that staying on a normal amount of test will somehow decrease gains and next cycle. Each cycle you should be able to keep a little more and therefore continuous gains. At some point you'll reach your peak level where its impossible to get any more muscle on your frame. But cruising on test is going to make that more achievable not less
 
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Anyone trying this should be aware of some weird correlations:

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Is what it is and usually once explained to female I'm with that my natural production stopped in my early 20's due to a weird blood condition they usually could care less.
 
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Absolutely and you're entitled to your opinion. But again I have to disagree that staying on a normal amount of test will somehow decrease gains and next cycle. Each cycle you should be able to keep a little more and therefore continuous gains. At some point you'll reach your peak level words impossible to get any more muscle on your frame. But cruising on test is going to make that more achievable not less
I'm not disagreeing with you and neither should you with me. Fact is still that coming off will give more gains during a shorter span. The test will be far more powerful alone if you're coming off. Basically more results and less time cycling. But yes theoretically it's easier to keep the gains while cruising even tho the gains will be less.
 
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I'm not disagreeing with you and neither should you with me. Fact is still that coming off will give more gains during a shorter span. The test will be far more powerful alone if you're coming off. Basically more results and less time cycling. But yes theoretically it's easier to keep the gains while cruising even tho the gains will be less.
So in the year who will gain more....IYO.
The guy who cruises or the guy that PCTs?
 
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I don't think androgen receptors undergo true desensitization. the body is constantly gaining and losing them anyway.... and in the presence of high androgen levels, the body increases androgen receptor density.

with that being said, I agree with the High Chief Grandpa..... backing off/coming off is also about overall health, etc.
This is my opinion. I believe "androgen desensitization" is bs. If guys are constantly on trt, and it's constantly working, how are their receptors being desensitized? Idk my body is so used to external test my nuggets no longer shrink. I tried going off and on when I was younger... Just ****s with your body. Try it, or stay with it
 
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I don’t personally believe in desensitization of the androgen receptors with such small doses. 150mg would basically put most people at the higher end of the ref range, and there should be no reason for a upper-normal level of test to cause desensitization imo.
That may be how *your personal* body/ endocrine system works. Others, like myself, when first put on trt put me back where I needed to be. After year 3 going on 4 my levels were low end and dose was doubled to get it back to where I needed to be. At that point my nuts were (and still are) all shriveled up and for me to have kids I'd prolly have to do a Clomid or nolva and HCG for months and months and I may still not be able to have kids. It's all person to person.
I know a pal who runs 3 to 4 oils at relatively high doses year round and orals here n there and he has a Bunch of kids (don't want to give too much away).

So everyone's body is going to respond differently, esp over time and dosages is my only point really.
 

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