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Start Test E Injects Tomorrow. First Cycle :D

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juice3320

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I've got everything and it is ready to go. I start test tomorrow. The cycle looks like this:

Weeks 1-12 500mgs test e
Weeks 2-5 Phera 20/30/30/30-45 (depends on gains)
Weeks 3-12 HCG

Weeks 14-17 Clomid 150 days 1-3/100 days 4-7/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

I will also be running PP TRS during PCT. The staple supps and support supplements will be run throughout cycle. I will try and log this (depending on time constraints). So if anyone is interested let me know :D.
 
Where's your AI? I ran a similar cycle and my biggest mistake was not controlling estrogen. It is especially necessary when running hCG because of the additional aromatase activity it will bring.

Also, how are you dosing the hCG?
 
juice3320 said:
I've got everything and it is ready to go. I start test tomorrow. The cycle looks like this:

Weeks 1-12 500mgs test e
Weeks 2-5 Phera 20/30/30/30-45 (depends on gains)
Weeks 3-12 HCG

Weeks 14-17 Clomid 150 days 1-3/100 days 4-7/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

I will also be running PP TRS during PCT. The staple supps and support supplements will be run throughout cycle. I will try and log this (depending on time constraints). So if anyone is interested let me know :D.
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looks good, i'm excited for you. normally on a 12 weeker, would start PCT on week 15 (2 weeks of ester clearance)
 
Thanks guys :D :D yeah I had my first shot last night and my glute is pretty sore today but no big deal. It just feels like a normal shot in the arm or something. And sorry about the typo's. I am starting PCT on week 15 (2 weeks after last pin) and I will be running Adex at .5mgs EOD for my AI. It was late when I posted last night and I had just driven 7 hours :(. But look out for the log! Thanks again for the support guys.
 
Liftingstud said:
Well 10 wks inj then start pct 2 wks after.
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Yeah 10 wks is pretty much up against the tipping point. I'd probably say 12-16 weekers need hCG, 10 probably not.

Juice - the shots for me get less painful as the cycle progresses. Maybe it is mental or maybe my body just compensates somehow to deal with it. You can take a little vitamin b to aid in the absorption. I personally prefer quad injections to glute.
 
CrazyChemist said:
Yeah 10 wks is pretty much up against the tipping point. I'd probably say 12-16 weekers need hCG, 10 probably not.

Juice - the shots for me get less painful as the cycle progresses. Maybe it is mental or maybe my body just compensates somehow to deal with it. You can take a little vitamin b to aid in the absorption. I personally prefer quad injections to glute.
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I think hCG would be necessary in any cycle that could cause testicular atrophy. Going into PCT with full-sized testes should help aid in a speedy recovery.

Agreed on the injection pain - it does get better. My first Test-E injection hurt like hell for days. I remember limping around campus for a couple days with a huge knot in my quad, worried I did something wrong and got an infection or something. But, after that it was pretty much smooth sailing. Don't know why it works like that but it seems to be the norm.
 
HCG is always good but rarely essential. 12 weekers are run left and right without HCG and with good results.
 
good luck man.

for someone running a 2nd AAS cycle running test at 400 for 12 weeks and winstrol at the end 50/50/50/50 nolva and clomid for pct along with OTC junk do you think this needs hcg because my friend cant get it.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
good luck man.

for someone running a 2nd AAS cycle running test at 400 for 12 weeks and winstrol at the end 50/50/50/50 nolva and clomid for pct along with OTC junk do you think this needs hcg because my friend cant get it.
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Plenty of people run 12 or even 16 weekers without hCG. I've got access so I run it cause it makes life easy. Why is he runnign 2 serms for pct and might wnt to up the test to 500/wk. -
 
ok thanks. hes scared hes gotten gyno from orals before and doesnt wanna get really bulky and bloated. ive already talked him up from 300
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
ok thanks. hes scared hes gotten gyno from orals before and doesnt wanna get really bulky and bloated. ive already talked him up from 300
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300 is barely displacing the body's own natural test. I think the standard HRT dose is ~200mg/wk.
 
that's the highest HRT dose that's commonly used, i've seen 200mg every 2 weeks and stuff like that, but yes the point stands, for anabolic purposes, I see 400 as an absolute minimum.

For libido purposes, 300 may be fine.
 
CrazyChemist said:
Plenty of people run 12 or even 16 weekers without hCG. I've got access so I run it cause it makes life easy. Why is he runnign 2 serms for pct and might wnt to up the test to 500/wk. -
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I really like the clomid nolva combo pct since both are slightly different. Used it on my last cycle and will continue too.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
good luck man.

for someone running a 2nd AAS cycle running test at 400 for 12 weeks and winstrol at the end 50/50/50/50 nolva and clomid for pct along with OTC junk do you think this needs hcg because my friend cant get it.
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you saying you're going to run your oral at the end of cycle? I like that idea, especially a non-aromatizing compound like stan.

My next cycle 'wishlist' would be:

Wk1-12 500mg Test E
Wk1-4 50mg DBol ED
Wk10-14 50mg Stan ED
Wk 15-19 PCT
GHRP-6 2x100mcg throughout into post PCT

Wet in the front, dry in the back :)

. . apologies for the hijack man :lol:
 
ha it's all good guys. Yeah, my glute hurts like hell right now, but it's nothing unbearable. I moved the needle around a fair bit due to having to twist my body 180 degrees to get to the dang spot I needed to pin. But my log is in the cycle info section :).
 
ok i will def have to tell him about that, i think hes going to need to buy more test. the other thing is for some reason hes doing 1 injection a week, i told him split it up into 2. does this matter.
 
UnrealMachine said:
that's the highest HRT dose that's commonly used, i've seen 200mg every 2 weeks and stuff like that, but yes the point stands, for anabolic purposes, I see 400 as an absolute minimum.

For libido purposes, 300 may be fine.
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300 puts you at something around 2x top of normal human scale of testosterone... plenty of gains to be made there, just slower than at higher levels (which isn't necessarily all bad either)
 
ok well he told me hes doing 350 and if hes unhappy doing 400. id go 500 but we are out for different gains. also is it bad to jsut do 1 injection a week?
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
ok well he told me hes doing 350 and if hes unhappy doing 400. id go 500 but we are out for different gains. also is it bad to jsut do 1 injection a week?
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If you are taking the longer ester test then it is a personal preference if you want to do one or two pins per week. Personally I am doing 500mgs/week right now and I like the idea of splitting the does much better than pinning 500 all at once.
 
This is more of a question than a statement:

why not load your first week since it takes four to kick in,

go week one 500 x 2ce a week
week two 300ish x2ce a week
then 250 x 2ce a week,
then the 2nd to last week 200 2ce a week
if you only had two vials for a ten week cycle, make it 9.
or just get more

wouldn't that make the test hit you quicker? or is it just a risk and a waste?
 
that sounds bad. risk of ***** nips blood pressure heart. if it worked im sure ppl would already be doing it. no good to shock either.
 
actually plenty of people do that. However to me in the end if you have 30ml of test in vials, whether you add some extra up front or run it 2 weeks longer works out about the same.
 
EasyEJL said:
actually plenty of people do that. However to me in the end if you have 30ml of test in vials, whether you add some extra up front or run it 2 weeks longer works out about the same.
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Agreed and I prefer the latter. I'd rather be on-cycle as long as safely possible rather than loading heavy for a shorter time. Of course, proper precautions, i.e. hCG, would be taken for long cycles.
 
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