Spring recomp cycle (Msten, Sustanon, Anavar)

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So, just woke up, and this is what I had to see. Dry as ****, no AI or Nolvadex was taken... Thing are getting interesting.
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Ok, so when you talk about msten being so dry, how are you noticing it? Just visually? Uriah’s, cause I’m considering adding it to my upcoming run.

I always felt msten really shreds me up around my shoulders but I still feel it's a bit wet at the same time, almost as if you'd mix a wet and dry. It doesn't have the same water retention within the muscles as superdrol but it seems to be keep more water sub q.
 
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Almost 7 weeks into this cycle. I train with high intensity as much as I can. Strength is constantly going up. I'm using this time to pun on size in parts that are lagging so far....
As it goes for Parabolan, this thing is strong, even at this dosage. I strugle to eat as much as it sucks everything in, but I'm pleased bc I see meat growing on me lol. Changes in body comp are almost daily.
Today was another pull day, went realy good, and I finaly managed to take few good shots.
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Almost 7 weeks into this cycle. I train with high intensity as much as I can. Strength is constantly going up. I'm using this time to pun on size in parts that are lagging so far....
As it goes for Parabolan, this thing is strong, even at this dosage. I strugle to eat as much as it sucks everything in, but I'm pleased bc I see meat growing on me lol. Changes in body comp are almost daily.
Today was another pull day, went realy good, and I finaly managed to take few good shots.
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Damn dude you’re starting to get grainy
 
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I always felt msten really shreds me up around my shoulders but I still feel it's a bit wet at the same time, almost as if you'd mix a wet and dry. It doesn't have the same water retention within the muscles as superdrol but it seems to be keep more water sub q.
Just like M1T, but drier. And weaker.

M1T won’t dry you out either. Superdrol dries you out.

The difference mainly, at the cellular level, is M1T and MSten are causing extremely rapid ribosomal activity, recruiting stem cells (we used to call these satellite cells when I was learning about B.B.) to actually accrue new tissue. They don’t just shove in a lot of glycogen and pull water from the skin.

This is, you guessed it, because they are delta-1 dhts. DHB derivatives.
 
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Just like M1T, but drier. And weaker.

M1T won’t dry you out either. Superdrol dries you out.

The difference mainly, at the cellular level, is M1T and MSten are causing extremely rapid ribosomal activity, recruiting stem cells (we used to call these satellite cells when I was learning about B.B.) to actually accrue new tissue. They don’t just shove in a lot of glycogen and pull water from the skin.

This is, you guessed it, because they are delta-1 dhts. DHB derivatives.
Love your knowledge bombs man
 
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Just like M1T, but drier. And weaker.

M1T won’t dry you out either. Superdrol dries you out.

The difference mainly, at the cellular level, is M1T and MSten are causing extremely rapid ribosomal activity, recruiting stem cells (we used to call these satellite cells when I was learning about B.B.) to actually accrue new tissue. They don’t just shove in a lot of glycogen and pull water from the skin.

This is, you guessed it, because they are delta-1 dhts. DHB derivatives.

Msten is sort of a mix between M1T and superdrol. It's dry while not really drying you out. I prefer this much more than superdrol as it comes out as much milder with the sides.
 
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Damn dude you’re starting to get grainy
It’s the homegrown strawberries

Msten is sort of a mix between M1T and superdrol. It's dry while not really drying you out. I prefer this much more than superdrol as it comes out as much milder with the sides.
I am torn between reusing Msten or trying M1A at the end of this cycle. Either 20 or 45mg for a month, respectively.

Leaning on Msten because I am not trying to really push size or strength, just recomping and rebuilding my base. Msten let me recover crazy fast between sessions, M1T let me push so much weight recovery was slower than average with greater DOMS.
 
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It’s the homegrown strawberries



I am torn between reusing Msten or trying M1A at the end of this cycle. Either 20 or 45mg for a month, respectively.

Leaning on Msten because I am not trying to really push size or strength, just recomping and rebuilding my base. Msten let me recover crazy fast between sessions, M1T let me push so much weight recovery was slower than average with greater DOMS.
Yeah it’s always kind of a bitch when your steroids let you move so much weight that the enhanced healing factor is completely negated by the massive tissue damage.
 
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Yeah it’s always kind of a bitch when your steroids let you move so much weight that the enhanced healing factor is completely negated by the massive tissue damage.
But imagine combining that with GH or strong peptide? Now that would be sweet
 
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Haha, no, just one culture. I was raised sorounded with plants, herbs, etc... And why not use that knowledge for a bit of income? It's realy relaxing...
U live in Cali

I live in south sac county and right next to several strawberry fields..
I've got thornless black berries myself.
 
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U live in Cali

I live in south sac county and right next to several strawberry fields..
I've got thornless black berries myself.
Nah man, I'm in Europe, Serbia, northern part of country. Agrocoulture here is realy on high level bc of fertility of soil, so, I'm enjoying in that and using it.
Thats cool man, I think that every work with your hands and earth is good for a man and his mind
 
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Nah man, I'm in Europe, Serbia, northern part of country. Agrocoulture here is realy on high level bc of fertility of soil, so, I'm enjoying in that and using it.
Thats cool man, I think that every work with your hands and earth is good for a man and his mind
You should try lifting atlas stones some day. You get to lift and get dirty at the same time!
 
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Nah man, I'm in Europe, Serbia, northern part of country. Agrocoulture here is realy on high level bc of fertility of soil, so, I'm enjoying in that and using it.
Thats cool man, I think that every work with your hands and earth is good for a man and his mind
Yeah. I have a massive garden.
Plus cherries, plums ,figs, pears ,apples. But black berries are probably going to become my main crop for sales.
Marijuana is big too.
This year in August I'm going to try a month only eating stuff I've grown.
I have chickens. The beef ill get from my neighbor.
 
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Nah man, I'm in Europe, Serbia, northern part of country. Agrocoulture here is realy on high level bc of fertility of soil, so, I'm enjoying in that and using it.
Thats cool man, I think that every work with your hands and earth is good for a man and his mind
Yeah. I have a massive garden.
Plus cherries, plums ,figs, pears ,apples. But black berries are probably going to become my main crop for sales.
Marijuana is big too.
This year in August I'm going to try a month only eating stuff I've grown.
I have chickens. The beef ill get from my neighbor.
 
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Nah man, I'm in Europe, Serbia, northern part of country. Agrocoulture here is realy on high level bc of fertility of soil, so, I'm enjoying in that and using it.
Thats cool man, I think that every work with your hands and earth is good for a man and his mind
Yeah. I have a massive garden.
Plus cherries, plums ,figs, pears ,apples. But black berries are probably going to become my main crop for sales.
Marijuana is big too.
This year in August I'm going to try a month only eating stuff I've grown.
I have chickens. The beef ill get from my neighbor.
 
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Nah man, I'm in Europe, Serbia, northern part of country. Agrocoulture here is realy on high level bc of fertility of soil, so, I'm enjoying in that and using it.
Thats cool man, I think that every work with your hands and earth is good for a man and his mind
Yeah. I have a massive garden.
Plus cherries, plums ,figs, pears ,apples. But black berries are probably going to become my main crop for sales.
Marijuana is big too.
This year in August I'm going to try a month only eating stuff I've grown.
I have chickens. The beef ill get from my neighbor.
 
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Yeah. I have a massive garden.
Plus cherries, plums ,figs, pears ,apples. But black berries are probably going to become my main crop for sales.
Marijuana is big too.
This year in August I'm going to try a month only eating stuff I've grown.
I have chickens. The beef ill get from my neighbor.
Sounds awesome!
 
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Yeah. I have a massive garden.
Plus cherries, plums ,figs, pears ,apples. But black berries are probably going to become my main crop for sales.
Marijuana is big too.
This year in August I'm going to try a month only eating stuff I've grown.
I have chickens. The beef ill get from my neighbor.
Thats realy nice man! And I thought that I was the only one with garden... I have onions, tomatoes, peaches, apricots, and soon I'll start few bee hives.
 
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It’s the homegrown strawberries



I am torn between reusing Msten or trying M1A at the end of this cycle. Either 20 or 45mg for a month, respectively.

Leaning on Msten because I am not trying to really push size or strength, just recomping and rebuilding my base. Msten let me recover crazy fast between sessions, M1T let me push so much weight recovery was slower than average with greater DOMS.

Msten is just less harsh so I'd go for that, the difference won't be crazy with just a few weeks, both of these are on the stronger sides anyways.
 
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Thats realy nice man! And I thought that I was the only one with garden... I have onions, tomatoes, peaches, apricots, and soon I'll start few bee hives.
No no no sir. Men in touch with their sustainable and earthly roots round here.
Here’s mine from last year and the one with the mulch was 2013.
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Msten is sort of a mix between M1T and superdrol. It's dry while not really drying you out. I prefer this much more than superdrol as it comes out as much milder with the sides.
Mine shows up in the mail on Wednesday. I decided to kick off the next 26 weeks with some msten and a little Dmz.
 

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Looking shredded man! Care to tell us how much do you weigh right now? You started this recomp at 186 @ 5'11 if I am not mistaken?
Also, do you really feel that Parabolan is a game changer compared to all the other stuff you are taking, even at such a small dose?
 
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Thanks man, right now, I'm at 189.5 lbs, while loosing bf%. I'd say it's realy something else, with its nutriotion partitioning effects, strength... Its realy awesome. It's like Anadrol, yet dry, stronger and with Anadrol you hold a lot of water, while on Parabolan, I feel like I'm adding new muscle tissue on my frame. Realy nice compound
 
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Thanks man, right now, I'm at 189.5 lbs, while loosing bf%. I'd say it's realy something else, with its nutriotion partitioning effects, strength... Its realy awesome. It's like Anadrol, yet dry, stronger and with Anadrol you hold a lot of water, while on Parabolan, I feel like I'm adding new muscle tissue on my frame. Realy nice compound

Tren and anadrol is out of this world both in terms of changing the body but also for the sides. Try draw blood if you can cause anadrol is harsh on rbc. I thought you were heavier and I mean that as a compliment.
 

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Tren and anadrol is out of this world both in terms of changing the body but also for the sides. Try draw blood if you can cause anadrol is harsh on rbc. I thought you were heavier and I mean that as a compliment.
I dont think he is using anadrol, he was just comparing its effects to tren.
I would also say he is heavier from the pictures (especially from those back shots), i am 50 lbs heavier and look nowhere near as good (12% bodyfat though), the quality and fullness of his muscles are just insane.

@Old Witch sorry if this is a bit off topic but I saw you mentioned earlier that msten, being 2-methyl, is stronger anti estrogen than dht. That would also make masteron stronger anti estrogen than dht, right?
 
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I dont think he is using anadrol, he was just comparing its effects to tren.
I would also say he is heavier from the pictures (especially from those back shots), i am 50 lbs heavier and look nowhere near as good (12% bodyfat though), the quality and fullness of his muscles are just insane.

@Old Witch sorry if this is a bit off topic but I saw you mentioned earlier that msten, being 2-methyl, is stronger anti estrogen than dht. That would also make masteron stronger anti estrogen than dht, right?
Yes it should be stronger than plain dht but weaker than proviron.
 
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Enjoying all the garden shots, and as someone mentioned Alchemist your back seems to be looking a lot thicker too
 
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Thanks man, right now, I'm at 189.5 lbs, while loosing bf%. I'd say it's realy something else, with its nutriotion partitioning effects, strength... Its realy awesome. It's like Anadrol, yet dry, stronger and with Anadrol you hold a lot of water, while on Parabolan, I feel like I'm adding new muscle tissue on my frame. Realy nice compound
Tren and anadrol is out of this world both in terms of changing the body but also for the sides. Try draw blood if you can cause anadrol is harsh on rbc. I thought you were heavier and I mean that as a compliment.
No Anadrol in this run man, but yeah, it will raise rbc count a lot!
Thank you for your compliment
 
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Enjoying all the garden shots, and as someone mentioned Alchemist your back seems to be looking a lot thicker too
That garden became my favourite place to think and relax after long day.
 
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Thank you guys for your kind word, knowlegde and support, it means a lot. I don't know yet how I manage to get that fullness, maybe it is due to my high carb intake, high volume training or just genetics, but I like it.

Finaly managed to hit shoulders in the way I like it and it realy is something else on this stack! No matter how much fat and carbs I eat during the day, the definition is still there, dry look, and in last few days is realy coming out.
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Looking really grainy and vascular. Impressive.
 
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I dont think he is using anadrol, he was just comparing its effects to tren.
I would also say he is heavier from the pictures (especially from those back shots), i am 50 lbs heavier and look nowhere near as good (12% bodyfat though), the quality and fullness of his muscles are just insane.

@Old Witch sorry if this is a bit off topic but I saw you mentioned earlier that msten, being 2-methyl, is stronger anti estrogen than dht. That would also make masteron stronger anti estrogen than dht, right?

Got you:).. If you compare to winstrol it's not
 
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Thanks man, and all of that, without much cardio...
Speaking of that - cardio will be a pain right now the longer you’re on tren, and obviously you don’t need it to stay lean, but try to get some daily walking in for your heart.

I was so winded so easily by the end of 8 weeks on trenavar. No cycle has ever done that to me like that.
 
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Speaking of that - cardio will be a pain right now the longer you’re on tren, and obviously you don’t need it to stay lean, but try to get some daily walking in for your heart.

I was so winded so easily by the end of 8 weeks on trenavar. No cycle has ever done that to me like that.
I walk almost every night for a 5 miles, but anything with higher intensity, I haven't done in weeks. But, I'll make myself do it, to see how much more bf I can drop
 
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Fuuukk.. i reallyyy want to do an Anavar only cycle at 50-100mg per day for a month or two. But I'm only 20 and I have great testosterone already. Will that f me over?

I would have to get bloodwork before and instantly after? And then some months from there? And have liver suport + a PCT? And estrogen control just in case right? That right there is already at like $1000 right? Is it worth it for me? I really don't want to surpress myself
 
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If you overthink like that over just month or more of Anavar, it's not worth it for you. Research, know your **** before you start, expect the worst, and be ready. If it goes smooth without problems (probably will/would), fine. But you have to be ready for everything. Its not harsh, its hard to find legit one, and yeah, it take a lot of money for a cycle, and even more for pct.
 

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