Something Stronger

Pipes

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Hey all, I'm about to start up a second cycle and as opposed to using h-drol, not that it wasnt good, I would like to try stepping up to something stronger. I was getting results, I gained a little more than 10 lbs. Most of it muscle, some water. However, I just wasnt feeling what I wanted to from the product, untill I started taking 100mg per day. So, as opposed to just beefing up the quantity of this product, I was interested in testing some other more potent products. I hear s-droid is ridiculously great, but strong as hell and pretty much superdrol itself. I also found that is hardly available. Now I wasnt sure if I wanted to quite go this far yet, but if you know of something maybe in the middle please let me know.
 
These are the "big 5" that everyone should try

weakest to strongest, ymmv

1) halodrol
2) epi
3) tren
4) phera
5) superdrol
 
My vote would goes with epi and or phera. . .i would like to see you use some phera with some formestane. . that would be very nice!!! I like things plane and simple. . call me old scool but that's just me!
 
Eh I would never want to try tren, would love to try phera though.

Although I would say give m14 a run, see how you like aromatizing steroids.
 
The only problem is that I don't know anyone who can help me obtain inj, or anything non otc. Therefore I'm limited to my PCT. I would love to go with the stronger stuff but I dont feel I could get a hold of the necessary supporting supps/ or pct like a good quality SERM.
 
You seem to be able to use the interweb just fine. You can order everything online. Stop being a moist lemon towelette and find a research chem site.
 
Internet is a beautiful thing but there is also some very none trust worthy sites out there. . .just check out some of the websponsors and i'm sure you'll see something there pertaining to what it is that you need :lol:
 
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I'm going to be blunt. It appears that these Anabolics are constantly changing, or they are being cloned, or renamed or something of the such. I think phera is phera-phlex, and epi is something like epi-strong, epistane, something of that nature. Tren no idea. Maybe that methoxy trn that is in that sticky. So is it the compound that you need to look for? <--thats not sourcing, not asking where to look. I cant find what apparently everyone else on here can get at the drop of a hat. I have managed to find phera but its outdated(feb 2007), and things with epi in the name, and m-drol seems to be the new name for superdrol but the compound is different:

SD 2a,17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
Mdrol 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol –

Now that doesnt look like an 'exact clone' to me.


Bridging, going from a strong to a mild by overlapping. What is AI? What about back pumps, or calf pumps? Through all the reading I've done over the last few months it seems that things are said, but never explained. Sure its great if you know what is being talked about, but put yourself back into a position where you also... were new to this. Yes I still consider myself new seeing as I'm only going to be starting a second cycle, which I'm sure yall will agree.

Anyhow... ranting is over. Any info that can be a tad more specific than.. "search the internet" lol.. will be of much greater appreciation.
 
yes there's a million names because of all the clones, so you have to look at the chemical structure a lot of the time. Just write them all down and it'll become easy.

AI = aromatose inhibitor

back pumps = lower back feels pumped and cramped, very uncomfortable

Keep reading it'll all make sense soon enough. I read around for a few months before I put a cycle together. It's not something you can do in a weekend, it's a few months of foruming, reading, searching, if you really want to UNDERSTAND what you're doing.

But seriously searching the internet will answer all of your questions. If you want to know if M-drol is a clone of Superdrol you just search it, check the formulas, see that they match... that takes like 30 seconds.

You want to know what an AI is you just search it, within the context of steroids of course, you'll find a ton of information. I learned about AI's before I knew anything about steroids, because they were in a lot of OTC supplements (test boosters).

I'm really surprised that you ran a cycle but still don't know basic stuff like AI's, back pumps. Calve pumps... lol those are self-explanatory.
 
well ive been poking around at the idea since last year, did a little research, reading, asking around but iddnt get too far. Earlier this year I started looking and reading again, and then a couple months ago is when I decided to do it. I know aromatizing steriods, I read up about that.

Its just that alot of "jargon" is not clearly defined. It would be nice if there was a sticky, or in your post on superdrol(great read btw) defining all the "jargon" terms and the acronyms and abbreviations lol.

It definately is alot more involved than I thought it would be, I can tell you that. I also need a more defined diet for this next cycle so that is taking most priority.
 
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