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Some Good Thinking Movies

toughchick401 said:
dead wife....he hears it on tv's, radios..and so on.....
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I haven't seen it, but I knew it was something about dead people speaking over electronic devices. Since I usually buy movies, is it worth getting? I don't think it was a huge hit so it might be available for under ten bucks these days.
 
insectgod said:
No, I think it's got Michael Keaton hearing the voice of his dead son on a shortwave radio.
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Your thinking of Frequency with Jim Caviezel(?) and Dennis Quaid. Pretty cool flick.
 
Insignificance
The Usual Suspects (def a thinker's drama)
Groundhog Day (so rich on so many levels)
Solaris (the Tarkovski original - not easy to find or watch!)
The Last Temptation of Christ
The Manchurian Candidate (the Frankenheimer original - haven't seen the remake)
 
insectgod said:
I haven't seen it, but I knew it was something about dead people speaking over electronic devices. Since I usually buy movies, is it worth getting? I don't think it was a huge hit so it might be available for under ten bucks these days.
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if you can snag it for under 10, go for it :)
 
American Me
American History X
Higher Learning
City of God (GREEAAT MOVIE !)
Fight Club
Gattica
Rocky (Everyone has to like and watch Rocky !)
Wild Things ;)
 
I agree with almost all the movies listed, especially Fight Club and Apocalypse Now, but here a few more.

-The Machinist
-The Night of the Hunter
-Cape Fear(old and new)
-Videodrome
-Angel Heart
-Event Horizon
-Papillon
-Once Were Warriors
-Seven
-Cool Hand Luke
-Glengarry Glen Ross
-Mystic River
-Tetsuo: The Ironman(you will definitely be thinking wtf through the whole damn thing)


Oh yeah, and Million Dollar Baby because that movie was like a kick in the balls that had me thinking why would they do that to a female version of Rocky.
 
Thinking movies...hmmm, don't they all require some thinking? Now if you want to think and then get laid( and porn is not an option)

Fight Club- something about shirtless guys beating the **** out of eachother gets a women wet.

Casablanca-old school classic, best romantic historical comedy with a dark edge.

Last Tango in Paris-Betolucci's beautiful sexy doomed love story, with fat Brando speaking french. Lots of nudity to think about. Features the line " I have a prostate the size of a grapefruit, but I'm still a pretty good stickman"
 
Crash and Cidade de Deus (City of God) get my vote.

If you want a good laugh; Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is the way to go.
 
WheyGood said:
Back when I was dating my wife, there was this one very sensual European film about a 30-something doctor that seduced an innocent young woman with the line "Take off your clothes." I swear, we didn't even get through the movie it made her so hot. Did it right there on the couch.

Anybody recall the title of that obscure little film?
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I may be wrong, but might that have been "The Unbearable Lightness of Being"? Check out 'Betty Blue' if you can find it, the opening shot is the attractive young French couple that star in the movie banging on their kitchen table...:woohoo:
 
"The Unbearable Lightness..." is definitely a sensual movie, but if you're interested in the ideas in the movie, the novel by Milan Kundera is much better. It is essentially about whether our lives and actions are heavy and profound, or light and fleeting. The Dr. represents light; the woman, weight. I think weight wins out based on Kundera's discussion of the idea of Eternal Recurrence (Nietzche), which I interpreted to refer to the psychological weight of the recurring memory that the woman can't shake of her husband's constant cheating. She busts him by smelling another woman in his hair (I don't need to say what part of the woman she smelled).
 
insectgod said:
I may be wrong, but might that have been "The Unbearable Lightness of Being"? Check out 'Betty Blue' if you can find it, the opening shot is the attractive young French couple that star in the movie banging on their kitchen table...:woohoo:
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Betty Blue is a great film, but when she gouges out her eye, I go a little soft( just a little!)
 
anabolicrhino said:
Betty Blue is a great film, but when she gouges out her eye, I go a little soft( just a little!)
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Since you know when that happens, you can always shut it off just prior. Very sad movie, by the end. :blink:

edit- I was gonna leave it at that, but what the heck, the EC is kicking in so I think I'll write a big, long rambling post about movies. Anyone with lack of interest feel free to skip ahead to the next post.:D

I used to live in Columbus, Ohio just on the edge of Victorian Village, and anyone who lives there will know that VV is gentrified and has a large gay community. Consequently they had a really artsy, fartsy video store called Aardvaark Video, which this gay guy I used to work with told me was slang for 'Artfuck' or 'Artfag'. This place was a bit pretentious, as they had the movies arranged by DIRECTOR! If the director was not prolific enough to have their own section, they were stuck in a section by NATIONALITY! Pretty funny, in a way. Between that place and the Upper Arlington and Grandview Public Libraries you could have access to pretty much the whole of international cinema. Consequently I have viddied an unbelievable amount of movies over the years. Good times. Now I live just outside of Rockford, IL and the selection around here is not so good. Mostly I just buy stuff from Amazon if I want it badly enough.

Any international film afficianadoes (sp?) will probably get a kick out of this ridiculous scene: imagine a bunch of no account punks sitting around with a couple cases of beer and a couple bottles of liquor and bags of weed and shrooms watching "The Silence" "Fanny and Alexander" "The Seventh Seal" "The Serpent's Egg" "Persona" "The Virgin Spring" "Autumn Sonata" and "Cries and Whispers". This actually happened... What a lark!

Yeah, Ingmar Bergman and mind-altering substances! Woohoo!:confused: It's a wonder we didn't all just slit our wrists.

Hey, let me recommend some more movies that make you think or at least go :wtf: ????

Vigil - directed by Vince Ward (not yet on DVD, I think)
Vagabond - 1986 directed by Agnes Varda
Weekend - Jean-Luc Godard
The Mirror - Andre Tarkovsky
The Sacrifice - Also by Tarkovsky
La Dolce Vida - Federico Fellini
The Tin Drum - Volker Schloendorf
and, in case no one's mentioned it, get 'Wings of Desire' by Wim Wenders, which, if you viddie this with your woman, I guarantee she will be giving it up for you afterward. I have personal anecdotal evidence of the veracity of that claim, Bros. If you can't find it, you could try the Nick Cage/Meg Ryan remake (City of Angels?), though I can't vouch for it being good, as I didn't bother to see it since Meg Ryan's acting skills give me hives...

I could go on all day....:rofl:

Also, I noticed someone else mentioned "Solaris" by Tarkovsky up thread a ways. Did you see the George Clooney remake? It was alright, but the changes to the story sucked, Clooney's acting skills saved that flick from being utterly worthless. It shouldn't be hard to find the book, so I recommend it to anyone that liked either film version. It's good stuff, and the sobering conclusion that the main character comes to by the end will give you much to ponder. :twisted: I'm a fan of Stanislaw Lem, though I haven't read all that much by him. I've been working unsteadily through 'The Cyberiad' and it's pretty funny stuff...

Okay, I'll shut up now.:blink:
 
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It might not be a 'thinking' movie, but I just saw Chronicles of Narnia and I loved every second of it. Better than LOTR, IMO.

BV
 
tiggermoon said:
lovely ending?:think::think::think::think:
are we thinking about the same movie?
the one starring choi min-sik?
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Yup, the lovely was a tad on the sarcastic side. ;)
 
Beowulf said:
What the Bleep Do We Know (Few people have the interest/attention for this, but if you dig Existentialism, Neuroscience, Quantum Theory, and Optimism, this is for you; these happen to be some of my favorite subjects :D )
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me too....love that show
 
I'm glad someone else has seen it. I love the positive potential the theories offer. I have absolute faith in the power of positive thinking. I used to suffer severe depression. Now, I think positively and I feel great. Now, when I get pissed or start plummeting into the depths I can snap out of it in a second.
 
Beowulf said:
I'm glad someone else has seen it. I love the positive potential the theories offer. I have absolute faith in the power of positive thinking. I used to suffer severe depression. Now, I think positively and I feel great. Now, when I get pissed or start plummeting into the depths I can snap out of it in a second.
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I like how it talked about the chemical addiction to certain types of thinking...
that explains why we like to dwell on things...
and why it is so hard to change our attitude and self esteem ect...

that movie was in complete congruence with everything i already believed... so i really liked it

and if you liked that movie then i would highly recommend you read Joseph Murphy's "The Power of the Subconscious Mind"
 
Been trying to see that movie for 6 months, and whenever i go my blockbuster its rented !!! will get on the mission to see, def believer of positie thinking, esp in Bodybuilding. Right now i am thinking this precontest meal is the best meal in the world, and Ronnie Coleman is a pea next to me. :lol: No seriously though thanks Beo for reminding me about that movie...
 
If Ronnie is a pea, I am an atom :run:

You definitely have the right attitude to be the best that your genetics will allow. Keep it up, A. Posting any progress pics?


As for What the Bleep...

I also love the way that they use somewhat entertaining graphics to explain the way that neurotransmitters flow, ebb and bind. It would be really cool if someone would put together a similar explanation for aas. The graphic technology used in that movie has tremendous teaching potential.
 
Beowulf said:
As for What the Bleep...

I also love the way that they use somewhat entertaining graphics to explain the way that neurotransmitters flow, ebb and bind. It would be really cool if someone would put together a similar explanation for aas. The graphic technology used in that movie has tremendous teaching potential.
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For all those of you who watch it... It gets kinda lame in the middle but they do it for a reason... make sure you watch to the end.


also another book "You Can Heal Your Life" by Louis Hay. It has the same idea... and it says that all of our health problems are a metaphore ex: stiffneck: unable to see other sides of an issue.
it has a huge list of health problems and the habitual thinking that caused them... and then it tell you the new way you need to think to correct the problem.
i refer to that list almost daily.
 
Hey Whiskey, what do you think of I Heart Huckabees? Contains a lot of the same concepts in a less scientific, more absurb/post-modern fashion. Still pretty good: the symbiosis of good and evil :D
 
Beowulf said:
Hey Whiskey, what do you think of I Heart Huckabees? Contains a lot of the same concepts in a less scientific, more absurb/post-modern fashion. Still pretty good: the symbiosis of good and evil :D
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I haven't heard of it.... is it a book or movie?
 
Movie. It is funny, but it deals well with some legit topics. Nothing new, but it is cool to see philosophy making its way into mainstream culture. It is about a guy who goes to existential detectives to try to figure out some coincidences.
 
Beowulf said:
Movie. It is funny, but it deals well with some legit topics. Nothing new, but it is cool to see philosophy making its way into mainstream culture. It is about a guy who goes to existential detectives to try to figure out some coincidences.
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I definitely check it out.......thanks
 
Beowulf said:
Movie. It is funny, but it deals well with some legit topics. Nothing new, but it is cool to see philosophy making its way into mainstream culture. It is about a guy who goes to existential detectives to try to figure out some coincidences.
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I just watched it......
and yes, it is four in the morning as i post this.

I laughed f-in hysterically towards the end and felt extremely uplifted at the end of the show.
I'm still not too sure what the intended message of the show was though. I have at least three different ideas for what the intended meaning is.



"Im taking the bike!"...... "Where are you guys? I'm at the fire." :toofunny:


what did you get out of it?
 
"How can I not be myself?"


"oh ya, brad, i torched your jet skis"
"and my house?!"
"no, just the jet skis, it spread to the house, im sorry"
 
The existential detectives err on the side of optimism; the Euro woman errs on the side of nihilism. Each side in the debate (acted out through the characters) denies the validity of the other. The resolution is balance (where's LCSulla?). There is no substance to either side if their is no diametric standard by which to compare it. What is love without hate? What is pleasure w/o pain? As the Mexican rock group, La Ley, states, "Sin dolor no te haces feliz/ Sin amor no te haces feliz." (You cannot be happy without pain/ You cannot be happy without love.) You can't just hit yourself in the face with a giant ball all day ;)

I think the characters in the movie they realized that both sides of the debate are right, the optimists and the nihilist. The one cannot exist without the other, a concept across religions, such as the binary forces we find in Genesis--light/dark, day/night, good/evil, man/woman...

This is one of the fundamental gripes some have with the concept of the Garden of Eden; without knowledge of good and evil, how could Adam and Eve choose good. Since they did not have this broader understanding, they did not possess the capacity to choose evil over good. (I'm not saying I agree--very undecided on these matters--but it is an interesting argument).
 
If you are looking for a great "thinking" movie with some action try The Game with Michael Douglas. You will be watching if the entire time like WTF and the end will throw you so much.
 
Beowulf said:
The existential detectives err on the side of optimism; the Euro woman errs on the side of nihilism. Each side in the debate (acted out through the characters) denies the validity of the other. The resolution is balance (where's LCSulla?). There is no substance to either side if their is no diametric standard by which to compare it. What is love without hate? What is pleasure w/o pain? As the Mexican rock group, La Ley, states, "Sin dolor no te haces feliz/ Sin amor no te haces feliz." (You cannot be happy without pain/ You cannot be happy without love.) You can't just hit yourself in the face with a giant ball all day ;)

I think the characters in the movie they realized that both sides of the debate are right, the optimists and the nihilist. The one cannot exist without the other, a concept across religions, such as the binary forces we find in Genesis--light/dark, day/night, good/evil, man/woman...

This is one of the fundamental gripes some have with the concept of the Garden of Eden; without knowledge of good and evil, how could Adam and Eve choose good. Since they did not have this broader understanding, they did not possess the capacity to choose evil over good. (I'm not saying I agree--very undecided on these matters--but it is an interesting argument).
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Ya that was one of them I got...
but before I was watching this movie I had some questions reguarding that...
The Tree of Life is said in the scriptures to be "desirable above all things" and is "Gods Love"......
So if we actually partake of the Tree of Life in this life does it errase our knowlegde of good and evil. Or do we just take on new loving view of the world while still being aware that good and evil exists (and we would just choose not to acknowledge it) because we have allready tasted of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
 
AI: Artificial Intelligence
Antwone Fisher
Smoke Signals
Dangerous Liaisons
Being John Malkovich
Dead Man Walking
Fahrenheit 911
Crumb
Magnolia, but it's a heavy film
SLC Punk is a stupid movie if you don't get it, but a powerful movie if you DO get it
Serpent and the Rainbow
 
WheyGood said:
"Crumb" is my all time favorite documentary and one of my favorite movies ever.

I was a huge fan of Robert Crumb as a teenager, but even if you're unfamiliar with his work it is an excellent exploration of creative intellect, perversion, and how the emotionally and sexually suppressive era of the 1940's and 1950's led to much of the sex n' drugs of the sixties.

Here's a link to view examples of his work:

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It's also one of the STRANGEST movies I've ever seen.

By the way, you might also appreciate the graphic novel, "Jimmy Corrigan the Smartest Kid on Earth" by Chris Ware. It's a dark, brilliant story.
 
Deja Vu with Denzel Washington was a thinking movie for me. It was good, suspenseful, but about half way through, I was thinking I should have taken notes!
 
"The Game" is pretty amazing (though it's been a while)

Since we've re-animated this thread: are there any thinking-person's zombie movies?
 
BodyWizard said:
"The Game" is pretty amazing (though it's been a while)

Since we've re-animated this thread: are there any thinking-person's zombie movies?
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Land Of The Dead was geared slightly to give the viewer a look into what the Zombies were thinking/feeling . Been a while since I watched it but the scene that sticks out is when the Zombie lead guy looks at the gas-pump as though he misses his job/humanity .
Other than that check out Dead Alive if you have ever thought about what would happen if Zombies were to f**k and have a little Zombie baby . Hilarious . Pretty sure this was Peter Jackson's first or second movie he directed . Oh yeah it's also the only movie I've seen the hero fire up a push-mower and run through a group of the undead !! Great stuff
 
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