bumpSo do we know if Longjack can raise free-test at all? Or has that been debunked.
bumpSo do we know if Longjack can raise free-test at all? Or has that been debunked.
best I've ever taken. I don't care about the studies. VIRON works for me: Just makes me feel good and great for the sex drive!Could you share what Eurycoma Extract is in Viron, like 100:1/LJ100 or 200:1, or any other extract?
I've heard a lot of good reviews on Viron.best I've ever taken. I don't care about the studies. VIRON works for me: Just makes me feel good and great for the sex drive!
LJ100 should be LJ100 regardless of company. But, OL’s worked great. Add in their maca and it was an amazing libido stack. But who knows what OL is doing. They went all kiddy-pop with the Lifestyle branding and got angry with anyone who disagreed with their decision. Now, they’re trying to be hardcore again.OL lj100 is discontinued? I cant find it in EU anymore, i remeber th story that in malaysia people are devastating forrest for take the TA roots and thats roots should "finish" soon, i hope that story is not true. Anyway someone know whats happening whit olympus lab?
So do we know if Longjack can raise free-test at all? Or has that been debunked.
Mood State (Vigor, Depression, Anger, Confusion, Fatigue, and Anxiety) was assessed using the validated Profile of Mood States (POMS) survey. Hormone profile (cortisol and testosterone) was assessed in saliva samples collected at three time points during each collection day (morning, afternoon, and evening). Saliva samples were analyzed for free cortisol and free testosterone by enzyme immunoassay (Salimetrics; State College, PA)
Eurycoma contains a group of small peptides referred to as “eurypeptides” that are known to have effects in improving energy status and sex drive in studies of rodents [14-16]. The effects of tongkat ali in restoring normal testosterone levels appears to be less due to actually “stimulating” testosterone synthesis, but rather by increasing the release rate of “free” testosterone from its binding hormone, sex-hormone-binding-globulin (SHBG) [17,18]...
The precise mechanism by which eurypeptides or tongkat ali root extract restores normal testosterone levels is unknown, but has been suggested as influencing the release rate of “free” testosterone from its binding hormone, sex-hormone-binding-globulin (SHBG) [17,18].
Bro.......Bro.........BroooooooooI’ve been using a 12% eurycommane extract from liftmode, and can confirm it works great in the libido department. I’ve seen studies showing that Tongkat can also reduce estrogen. I actually had to take a break after 2 months of use because my joints were super dried out, so that leads me to believe in the reduced estrogen effects. As far as testosterone, I’m sure it helps normalize to slightly increase levels. I don’t think it will do much in the way of muscle building but I use this stuff for the libido, aggression, and energy effects. Highly recommend the Liftmode extract.
Take the below with a grain of salt, as it was done on, “rat testicular Leydig cell-rich interstitial cells”, but you may find this interesting.Bro.......Bro.........Brooooooooo
Thank you for posting this. My arthritic hip has been killing me!! I wondered last night if TA was the issue. I think it is drying out my joints as well. You’ve confirmed my suspicion.
It’s definitely doing something. I usually have good days and bad days. But, the bad days have been every day. I kept thinking “wtf?”. Didn’t dawn on me until a couple days ago that it might be TA.Take the below with a grain of salt, as it was done on, “rat testicular Leydig cell-rich interstitial cells”, but you may find this interesting.
Would be interesting to see a study on how these Eurycomanone-rich extracts impact healthy adult men hormones. Is there a rise in test in healthy men? Is that rise just because of Eurycomanone inhibiting aromatase conversion? No idea.
Eurycomanone, the major quassinoid in Eurycoma longifolia root extract increases spermatogenesis by inhibiting the activity of phosphodiesterase and aromatase in steroidogenesis - PubMed
Eurycomanone enhanced testosterone steroidogenesis at the Leydig cells by inhibiting aromatase conversion of testosterone to oestrogen, and at a high concentration may also involve phosphodiesterase inhibition. The quassinoid may be worthy for further development as a phytomedicine to treat...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
i really, truly hope OL is back on track...i was a huge fan of theirs before the 'kiddy-pop' transition.LJ100 should be LJ100 regardless of company. But, OL’s worked great. Add in their maca and it was an amazing libido stack. But who knows what OL is doing. They went all kiddy-pop with the Lifestyle branding and got angry with anyone who disagreed with their decision. Now, they’re trying to be hardcore again.
how are you dosing it? I'm 5 days into 10% ND and I'm feeling super confident as the day goes on. Splitting a 100mg tab morning/afternoon. Dosed quite late yesterday and pretty sure it's why I kept waking up all nightI hate/love LJ i dont understand why, some days when i take it seems that im on a drug, some days i feel superconfident on it and very speedy, its like im on coke the whole day and then the day after im paranoid couse when im on it i act like a badass (im already but whit tomcat too much) an im rude whit peoples at work/friends, i dont think that is caused from testosterone variation but for dopamine/serotonine change, anyone else had this effects?
I was taking OL100 mg in the morning and 100mg the early afternoon, but stopped couse it make me too much aggressive with other peoples.. bersek.. so now i take it occasionally only when i feel im tired/high corstisol feeling, anyone is aggressive on it too? Dopamine or testo/dht problem?how are you dosing it? I'm 5 days into 10% ND and I'm feeling super confident as the day goes on. Splitting a 100mg tab morning/afternoon. Dosed quite late yesterday and pretty sure it's why I kept waking up all night
Best herb for T purposes i have taken. Energy, libido and slight body recomp. Only problem is that irritates my esophagus lining because is so bitter that i cant tolerate more than one a day, its sad because two tablets are the best dose i think.(i have shitty stomach and esophagus, so im not the best example for this).How is that ND 10% treating you @-RONIN-
Do you have a scale? How are you measuring powder and how much you taking?I’ve been using a 12% eurycommane extract from liftmode, and can confirm it works great in the libido department. I’ve seen studies showing that Tongkat can also reduce estrogen. I actually had to take a break after 2 months of use because my joints were super dried out, so that leads me to believe in the reduced estrogen effects. As far as testosterone, I’m sure it helps normalize to slightly increase levels. I don’t think it will do much in the way of muscle building but I use this stuff for the libido, aggression, and energy effects. Highly recommend the Liftmode extract.
Any feedback?Ok, just ordered a bottle of 10% from ND. 120 caps. Probably do 2 or 3 a day. Let's see what this is all about.
Yeah, been doing one or two a day. I've noticed it give me an energy boost, so can't take it late in the day. Stuff seems legit. They are doing a big black Friday sale, I'd suggest to pick some up.Any feedback?
Yes I have a milligram scale. I take 80-90mg a day.Do you have a scale? How are you measuring powder and how much you taking?
No scoopsDoes anyone know if ND powders come with scoops?
I think I'm gonna picked a jar of both extracts of TA and probably some bulk Choline Bitartrate. I wishYeah, been doing one or two a day. I've noticed it give me an energy boost, so can't take it late in the day. Stuff seems legit. They are doing a big black Friday sale, I'd suggest to pick some up.
Do you have any informtion on their Black Friday sale?They are doing a big black Friday sale, I'd suggest to pick some up.
i didn’t see it either. fmlDo you have any informtion on their Black Friday sale?
I just signed up for their email notices, so I think I should be receiving something ....i didn’t see it either. fml
I think they are starting whatever kind of sale they are gonna have tomorrow.I just signed up for their email notices, so I think I should be receiving something ....
yous in a longjack thread my man. lolAnyone ever try the Rule 1 Natural protein? How is it?
LOL wtf. I have no idea what this forum software does.yous in a longjack thread my man. lol
lmaoLOL wtf. I have no idea what this forum software does.
How would you rate viron vs m test?best I've ever taken. I don't care about the studies. VIRON works for me: Just makes me feel good and great for the sex drive!
No. I actually find it the opposite.Anyone else get drowsy taking the %10? Took my 1st pill and dosed off
sameNo. I actually find it the opposite.
I picked up both the 2% and the 10% and will probably start the 2% in Jan and I plan onI need to refresh my understanding, but I thought Eurycoma’s effects on cortisol were more adaptogenic in nature - as in it should help balance, not crush, cortisol.
Idk. I’d just think it wouldn’t lower it to the point of people dozing off. Or if it’s making people tired, it may be independent of cortisol. I could certainly be misinformed. I’ve never tried the 10% extract.
No idea what happens with it but I get the same effects.I hate/love LJ i dont understand why, some days when i take it seems that im on a drug, some days i feel superconfident on it and very speedy, its like im on coke the whole day and then the day after im paranoid couse when im on it i act like a badass (im already but whit tomcat too much) an im rude whit peoples at work/friends, i dont think that is caused from testosterone variation but for dopamine/serotonine change, anyone else had this effects?
Same experience with these two points above. I miss a simple TA or LJ100 pill that's effective. The 'kitchen sink' approach seemed to take have really since off a few years ago, but they mostly include stuff that I don't respond well to, so I'm in the same boat with OP.stopping in to say....
•testojack is garbage
•OL LJ100 gave me a great libido boost
•Nutrex Tested (also LJ100) didn’t do sh!t
•I need to try Nootropics Depot asap!!
I grabbed 9 jars of the OL LJ100 on a good sale years back and ran 2-3 caps a day and for meOL LJ100 with OL Maca was awesome. Big boners and big loads.
You can take TKA at night and it helps you sleep which I have had the same experience with other TKATaking 2 doses of the %10 at night and it helps me sleep pretty nice .. kinda feel like im coming off of melatonin when I wake up
thanks for the lead on the Barlowes my friend. check your PMs.I grabbed 9 jars of the OL LJ100 on a good sale years back and ran 2-3 caps a day and for me
it was decent but for me it wasn't as good as Barlowes 100:1 extract that I used in the past but
like we ALL know herbal extracts effect everyone differently. I have both versions of ND's TKA
so we'll see how they work for me when I run them.
I had their 100:1 extract and 2 caps Mon-Fri is how I dosed and libido was through the roofAlways read good feedback on Barlowe's products. I remember trying Barlowe's TKA back in 2015. It seemed to drop my libido a bit, so I stopped and who knows what happened. I can't recall which one I had the 100 or 200:1.
I'm really interested in how you guys go with the Nootropics Depot stuff. Cheers.
Yeah, I think that I was doing 2-3 of the 200:1 and it was too much. Thanks for chiming in. Perhaps I could give the 100:1 a shot again.I had their 100:1 extract and 2 caps Mon-Fri is how I dosed and libido was through the roof
but remember with TKA more isn't always better. I tried 3 caps and it wasn't as good as 2.
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