sammpedd88
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I just started the PA XT on Saturday. I can feel a little bit of a pick me up so to speak when I take it. I’m liking it with AXT so far!
SNS Anabolic XT - Hardcore Natural Anabolic Muscle Builder
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I just started the PA XT on Saturday. I can feel a little bit of a pick me up so to speak when I take it. I’m liking it with AXT so far!
sns8778
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I'm glad you're liking it and looking very forward to seeing how you like the stack together.
Anabolic Effect + Anabolic XT + Phosphatidic Acid XT is probably the stack I've looked the most forward to running of anything ever. I'll be doing some of my normal daily use supps like M-Test, Optimize-T, and Epi-Plex with them, but I use those year round for overall health benefits. I may add Urolithin-B XT in with the stack myself too - but I have lost a lot of muscle from not being able to train so I have a lot of making up to do.
Dustin07
Legend
Comes back quick. it will be the new stuff once you're back to the mean that's a bitch to build lol
hercules_22
Member
The exact stack I'm getting ready to start as my PA XT just arrived!!!
sns8778
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That's awesome - I look forward to hearing your feedback on that, I think and hope that you'll love it.
I'm hoping to be able to start back to some light training in the next few weeks and will probably give it 2 weeks of just easing myself back into it and then plan to start the stack and hopefully gain some muscle back while still losing some fat.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
That’s great news Steve!!
Jeremyk1
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You’re gonna be able to train again? Hasn’t it been over a year now? Great news! Let us know how it goes!
sns8778
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It's been a year and couple months.
I'll never be able to train like before, but hope to be able to get back into at least some light training and see how things go.
Right now, I'm still in the process of trying to learn how to walk properly again. A lot of people I don't think realized how severe the break and tissue damage is - it was a complete snap of the tibia and a dual break of the fibula above the ankle and below the knee to where it started off as a free floating bone. The tibia came out thru the calf muscle - so in addition to the breaks, there is a lot of nerve and tissue damage. At first, they thought I was going to lose my leg. A tibia break like that takes around 12 months to heal the break itself and then the tissue and nerve damage still has a long way to go after that.
Learning how to walk again has been a challenge - because of the bone and tissue damage, it shifts your natural stance which then causes knee pain, back pain, balance issues, etc. I still have difficulty stepping side to side or over anything, and anytime I get up or step out of a vehicle, I have to wait a few seconds for the weight to distribute.
That's just the leg part - the accident broke my shoulder in addition to that and I have to be very careful with any shifting or twisting movements. One of the biggest setbacks I had on my shoulder was from just opening a bottle cap too quickly.
The pain is constant, but the worst part is just not knowing if its ever going to get but so much better or if I'm ever going to be able to do some of the things I used to enjoy or that I wanted to get to do.
Training wise, when I start back, it will be light cardio and just some light lifting and see how things go from there.
After the accident, I had really just given up and let myself go bc of the depression and anxiety and had lost a lot of muscle and gained a lot of fat. I'd gotten to the point where I was self conscious to even go out in public. Back in Feb., I started cleaning up my diet and started a very intensive fat loss supplement regimen since I couldn't work out, in order to try to take off some fat and so far I've lost around 36 lbs. last time I weighed. I don't weigh often, but probably still around that bc I did slack off some the week of my birthday, but my goal is to drop 50 lbs. total and then focus on building back muscle.
Dustin07
Legend
Dude, when you're read fire up a log for us to follow
your bounce back to mightiness will be inspirational to watch
sns8778
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Dude, when you're read fire up a log for us to follow
your bounce back to mightiness will be inspirational to watch
Thanks. I appreciate it.
I doubt I will log it on here, but have been trying to think of somewhere to do something like that at.
The reason I don't talk about much of my personal diet/training on here is that I know what works for me and it differs from what some on here deem to be the 'normal' but I have to first and foremost train and eat in a way that doesn't cause a flareup with my autoimmune condition. And then, ironically, so many people have asked me to post my daily use general health supplement regimen and I did a couple of months ago and wound up getting my feelings very hurt and offended at how many people make smart*** remarks about how many pills I take per day, etc. and implied that they didn't believe me. Kind of was a slap in the face as much time and effort I've put into helping people on here over the years, including some of the people that make remarks.
I need to figure out other means to interact with customers other than just here. I need to get better on social media for sure; I just have never been a big social media person but definitely need to. And I'm must old school and like the forum format because it can be interactive. But I've grown really tired of putting so much time and energy into trying to help keep AM alive, but then it seems like other brand owners can pop on here only when trying to hype or sell products and get so much attention; just kind of gets discouraging at times.
hercules_22
Member
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
Holy heck. Now we know why they call you Hercules.
hercules_22
Member
Getting back into form haha. But a stringer plus back/shoulder day will make anyone look good
Dustin07
Legend
Dustin07
Legend
I'll let Steve confirm but my thoughts are that it's so mild until you're in the gym that it likely doesn't matter too much. I was taking 3 at wake up and 3 preWO mostly just to spread out the 25 pills a day that come from my various supplements lol
hercules_22
Member
Thanks brutha!!! I gotta stay in shape I've got two young daughters at home who will one day grow up and find bfs lolyou can't hid swole bro, looking thick that's a lifetime of hard work right there
hercules_22
Member
Yeah that sounds like me especially since both AE and AXT are 6 pills/day. I read somewhere on here you can take all 6 AXT PWO so I've been doing that on training days.
Dustin07
Legend
haha for sure. I only recall one time fearing a girls dad in high school. that was when he stood in the middle of the driveway waiting for us to pull in to drop her off and I had to pull directly at him
respect immediately engaged lol
sns8778
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I think that 3/3 is fine in my opinion.
sns8778
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Thank you for posting. I'm glad you're enjoying it - that's an awesome stack.
Incredible physique.
sns8778
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We have a couple of options for stimulant free fat burners.
We have several great formulas and then also several great single ingredient products that can be stacked however people would like.
If you're looking for just one or two products, my choices would be Lean Edge & Thermo Scorch.
You can find a lot of great feedback on them and also a lot of great research on the active ingredients.
Here is a link to the write ups:
Lean Edge - 120 caps | Serious Nutrition Solutions
Clinical Strength Stimulant Free Fat Burner I 15 High End Active Ingredients I Fat Burning, Increased Metabolism, Appetite Control, Positive Mood, & More
seriousnutritionsolutions.com
Thermo Scorch | Serious Nutrition Solutions
Ultra-Potent Stimulant Free Fat Burner. Supports Burning Fat, Improved Metabolism, Appetite Control, & More. MitoBurn, CaloriBurn, Sinetrol, Capsimax, Bioperine.
seriousnutritionsolutions.com
I have been doing a very comprehensive fat loss supplement stack since Feb. 14th and so far have lost around 36 lbs.; and that's with zero exercise because I haven't been able to start back working out again yet from my accident.
sns8778
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Yes, the supplements that I've mentioned are safe to take and are stimulant free.
Lean Edge is a very comprehensive stimulant free fat loss product that works thru multiple pathways to target fat loss.
Thermo Scorch contains MitoBurn, one of the most popular fat loss ingredients on the market (which we also offer in single ingredient form as MitoBurn XT), and Thermo Scorch also contains several other great ingredients.
They make for a great stack and I use both plus a few more things myself and have had great results.
The write ups for both products are very complete and detailed so you should be able to get some great info from them.
Regarding DIM, I'm assuming you're taking that to help lower estrogen levels - I would strongly suggest looking at changing to Inhibit-E - its inexpensive and far superior to just basic DIM for helping to modulate estrogen and increase natural testosterone levels. I use it myself as part of my own general health and fat loss regimen.
Here's a link to the Inhibit-E write up:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/inhibit-e/
Wobmarvel
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Hi guys, I have just started getting back into things after being diagnosed with gyno earlier this year. When it initially became obvious to me I had been taking optimize T for 4 weeks followed by innovapharm test for 4 weeks after. Both products have fadogia agrestis and tonkat Ali among other stuff and although people will argue that those things shouldn't cause gyno I believe it was. Caveat to that is that around the months prior I had used sarms and did start hp 4 andro (but binned that after one week) so if it was these then that's fine, I can accept it.
Having been off everything since last October my natural test levels are actually pretty decent around the 500s and I'm looking for a natural sup that can help with energy in the gym, protein synthesis and general strength and muscle gain. Would anabolic xt (see it is a relevant post lol) fit this category. I wouldn't want to use it if it has a natural test boosting element. Maybe recomp 20 would be better? Like sns as a company so would like to know what you would recommend.
Having been off everything since last October my natural test levels are actually pretty decent around the 500s and I'm looking for a natural sup that can help with energy in the gym, protein synthesis and general strength and muscle gain. Would anabolic xt (see it is a relevant post lol) fit this category. I wouldn't want to use it if it has a natural test boosting element. Maybe recomp 20 would be better? Like sns as a company so would like to know what you would recommend.
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Dustin07
Legend
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I'm not well enough versed in biochemistry to fully understand everything however I do tend to get the itchiness back in the nipples when running AXT consistently. I love the product though.
the past month running Epiandrolean + inhibit E + phosphatidic XT together have had no nipple issues for me and great workouts/results. (2 PRs while cutting 10lbs). Epiandrolean would not qualify as natural, but the Phophatidic XT is worth a go with no sides. I've also been taking orchic extract and/or MOFO (they're the same product basically but one is a 6 capsule dose and one is 2 capsule dose) with the same Invalid Link Removed.
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
It has Spilanthes which definitely increases test, but it also has Eucommia Ulmoides which can increase steroid signaling. Maybe best to avoid in your case.
hercules_22
Member
Sucks that orchic extract from Swanson is gone man. I may look into MOFO.
Mirage2reality
New member
It will be back stock
sns8778
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I think its very relevant to post the full context of this for people reading though - that you were having itchiness in your nipples before you ever tried Anabolic XT. Your post makes it read like you're saying that caused it, when you had said that you were having the issue due to something else for some time before you ever started Anabolic XT.
I'm glad that you've been having great results with the Epiandro Lean, Inhibit-E, and Phosphatidic Acid XT stack.
sns8778
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Everyone responds different to different things, but it would be extremely rare for Fadogia to do that to someone. For example, Fadogia is in M-Test and a lot of people use that year round and never have issues with it. It could be the sarm's, I hate 4andro bc of sides, or it could be that they created a little bit of an issue that any test booster may would have aggravated. Either way, I'm glad you're doing better.
Anabolic XT would fit in the category of what you're looking for - for increasing protein synthesis, and strength and muscle gains.
Anabolic XT does have Spilanthes in it, which would not increase estrogen; but in your case, it seems like you may be explaining that anything that causes an increase in test may bother you. I don't think that it would cause an issue for you, but if you were super concerned about it, you could go with Phosphatidic Acid XT or Anabolic Effect. Recomp20 is also a great product, as you mentioned - it is going to be more for recomp purposes, but it is great for lean muscle and fat loss.
Hyde
Legend
Have you considered supplements like epicatechin, creatine hcl, amentoflavone, peako2? These can all give different kinds of ergogenic boosts.
Energy is usually going to be hormone & stimulant-based for me assuming sleep and dietary fuel are on point, but going more nootropic routes can help you feel more driven/focused. Sabroxy Xt, Focus XT, Vasoforce Rush are some SNS products you may like to play with preWO in that regard.
Wobmarvel
Well-known member
I take creatine, although basic mono plus glutamine. I take a multi, fish oil, extra vid c and d3. I have used ghost build before which I believe was their creatine and epicatechin product. It was okay actually but was using other stuff at the time so can't really tell what if anything it was really doing. Because I'm just getting back into it I'm just gonna go with what I have for a few weeks to ensure I actually get into a decent workout and diet routine before throwing any more money at it. Just planning for the next step.
Bob1983
New member
This is exactly same stack Im thinking of running. Funnily enough I also wanted to use just the Recomp20 for 4 weeks also but after a week have decided to stack with AXT but also thinking of adding in Thermo Scorch
TheMrMuscle
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If you are running a cut i can highly recommend Thermo Scorch. I wrote a small review of my experience with it:
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Bob1983
New member
I've actually come across that already which contributed to wanting some!
I may grab a bottle, run recomp20 and Thermo scorch for a month and then recomp20 and AXT together after
sns8778
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I've been doing Lean Edge, Thermo Scorch, and LipoVantage for the last couple months and have dropped a little over 40 lbs. since Feb. without being super strict on my diet and without being able to do any exercise.
Now, I'm finally able to start back doing light training and will be doing Recomp20 with those for the next month while still trying to lose fat and start building back some muscle. Then in 4 weeks, hopefully will be ready and back in the swing of things to add in Anabolic XT + Anabolic Effect + Phosphatidic Acid XT.
sns8778
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That should be a great stack. I look forward to hearing your feedback.
sns8778
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@Irishobrien
Quoting you to see how you are liking it and if you're still using it?
And also because I tried to send you a pm and it wouldn't let me for some reason; said that you had a setting that limited who could view your profile. Shoot me a pm if you don't mind so I can reply to it. Or if you have my contact information outside of AM, send me a message. Thanks.
sns8778
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For anyone that doesn't know, during the time that Anabolic XT had been released, I hadn't been able to workout because I was in a bad accident in February of 2022 and broke my shoulder, my fibula in 2 places, and shattered my tibia in my right leg including it coming out thru my calf muscle, so I was in a wheelchair for 5 weeks, 6 months of physical therapy, and then a long process of trying to learn how to walk again properly.
During that time period, I had really let myself go between not being able to do much and the stress, anxiety, & depression. I had lost pretty much all of my muscle and gained so much fat that I was 25 lbs. heavier than my heaviest weight ever and without the muscle that I had when I was at my previous heaviest.
In Feb. 2023, I started trying to clean up my diet some; not strict, but more like watching what I ate more. Since I couldn't workout, I was relying on a very supplement intensive fat loss regimen to help lose some fat and between Feb. 14th and beginning of June, I had lost a little over 40 lbs., which I was very happy with being that I wasn't able to do any exercise at all.
Around a month ago, I started back doing some light workouts and just trying to ease back into things. The fat loss part of my supplement regimen since then is Lean Edge, Thermo Scorch, LipoVantage, and GlucoVantage XT. I had added in CEL Ecdy-Plex and SNS Recomp20. I used XPG Ursa-Gel but admittedly wasn't as consistent as I should have been bc I suck at applying topicals consistently. I need to get better about that.
The stack that I've been looking forward to running the most in all the time that I wasn't able to workout has been to stack Anabolic XT, Anabolic Effect, & Phosphatidic Acid XT - and I'm excited that I'm finally starting that today.
I will continue with my fat loss supplement regimen for at least the next 4 weeks. I'm going to continue on Recomp20, try to get more consistent with XPG Ursa-Gel & Ab-Solved, and am going to continue with Ecdy-Plex for at least a couple more weeks and decide from there.
I know what I'm taking is a lot more than most people will use, but I've also been through a lot in the last year and a half and it had destroyed me both physically and mentally, and I'm trying to go all out to get back into shape as quickly as possible.
Anyway, I said all that to say that - I'm super excited to finally get to start Anabolic XT for myself!
During that time period, I had really let myself go between not being able to do much and the stress, anxiety, & depression. I had lost pretty much all of my muscle and gained so much fat that I was 25 lbs. heavier than my heaviest weight ever and without the muscle that I had when I was at my previous heaviest.
In Feb. 2023, I started trying to clean up my diet some; not strict, but more like watching what I ate more. Since I couldn't workout, I was relying on a very supplement intensive fat loss regimen to help lose some fat and between Feb. 14th and beginning of June, I had lost a little over 40 lbs., which I was very happy with being that I wasn't able to do any exercise at all.
Around a month ago, I started back doing some light workouts and just trying to ease back into things. The fat loss part of my supplement regimen since then is Lean Edge, Thermo Scorch, LipoVantage, and GlucoVantage XT. I had added in CEL Ecdy-Plex and SNS Recomp20. I used XPG Ursa-Gel but admittedly wasn't as consistent as I should have been bc I suck at applying topicals consistently. I need to get better about that.
The stack that I've been looking forward to running the most in all the time that I wasn't able to workout has been to stack Anabolic XT, Anabolic Effect, & Phosphatidic Acid XT - and I'm excited that I'm finally starting that today.
I will continue with my fat loss supplement regimen for at least the next 4 weeks. I'm going to continue on Recomp20, try to get more consistent with XPG Ursa-Gel & Ab-Solved, and am going to continue with Ecdy-Plex for at least a couple more weeks and decide from there.
I know what I'm taking is a lot more than most people will use, but I've also been through a lot in the last year and a half and it had destroyed me both physically and mentally, and I'm trying to go all out to get back into shape as quickly as possible.
Anyway, I said all that to say that - I'm super excited to finally get to start Anabolic XT for myself!
Bob1983
New member
I'm currently taking recomp20 and Anabolic XT. Im eating a little more than I have been for the past year or so, probably at a bit of a surplus past my maintenance but my muscles appear fuller and my numbers seem to be going up. So far so good! Im about 4 weeks in so I think from here on out I should start seeing whats what! Looking forward to it.
sns8778
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Thank you for posting. I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying it.
How long do you plan on running it for? I just started last week, I'm thinking I'm doing 20 weeks of Anabolic XT and will probably run Recomp20 at least the first 8 weeks of it. I had already been on Recomp20 for about 3 weeks.
Bob1983
New member
I have enough for 8 weeks worth of both but I'll probably run them both for 12 weeks. Although its not needed I'll give my body a 4 week rest or so and see what I want jump back on from there depending on if I want to bulk or cut. What I would really like to do is try an Anabolic XT & Anabolic effect stack but I follow a halal diet and the Anabolic effect capsules aren't suitable for vegetarians unlike the other 2 SNS products so no can do.
sns8778
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I think that 12 to 16 weeks is a good cycle length for them.
I'm going 20 weeks myself, but the main reason is personal curiosity and also because I was in a bad accident in Feb. 2022 and wasn't able to train for a year and 4 months and had lost a lot of muscle, so I'm going longer because I really want to build back as much muscle as possible. And also, I have an autoimmune condition and working out in general is very hard on my body and I think the stack will help me recover better and not be as prone to overtraining as I normally am.
You will be very, very happy to know that by the end of the year Anabolic Effect should be in vegetable capsules. What we have been doing is that as we run out of labels (labels are many times ordered 10k+ at a time), we have been changing most things over to vegetable capsules
Bob1983
New member
I was hoping you would say that! Actually I was hoping you were going to say it had already happened but the labels and pics online just hadn't been updated yet lol. Well I'm looking forward to trying that out then!I think that 12 to 16 weeks is a good cycle length for them.
I'm going 20 weeks myself, but the main reason is personal curiosity and also because I was in a bad accident in Feb. 2022 and wasn't able to train for a year and 4 months and had lost a lot of muscle, so I'm going longer because I really want to build back as much muscle as possible. And also, I have an autoimmune condition and working out in general is very hard on my body and I think the stack will help me recover better and not be as prone to overtraining as I normally am.
You will be very, very happy to know that by the end of the year Anabolic Effect should be in vegetable capsules. What we have been doing is that as we run out of labels (labels are many times ordered 10k+ at a time), we have been changing most things over to vegetable capsules
sns8778
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I'm sorry, its a process - as we use up existing labels, we are changing most of the things that aren't already in veg capsules over to veg capsules, but for most things we have to wait until we use up existing labels. I know on Anabolic Effect, we are out of labels which means that the next production run will be with the new labels/veg capsules.
The only way you could really try it in the meantime would be to empty the contents of the capsules out, which I know is a hassle.
Bob1983
New member
No worries at all, no need to apologise. Im just glad AXT and Recomp20 are veggie capsules as they seem to be working well.
Also I would advise against emptying out the contents and chucking the powder straight down. Was doing that with something about 7 years ago and got kidney stones at the same time which isn't nice. I know some ppl may empty and put into their own veggie capsules but nah, too much hassle for me.
sns8778
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That would have had to have been coincidence what happened to you - because if you take a powder or a capsule, its still going to the same place. The capsule would break down quickly in the stomach anyway, so whatever you were emptying out of capsules wouldn't have been anymore likely to cause kidney stones than if you had swallowed the capsules.
For example, Cissus XT capsules or Cissus XT powder - the only difference is that the capsule provides a transport mechanism to get the powder to your stomach whereas the powder you just swallow down without the capsule. In this case, Cissus tastes pretty rough, so most people do prefer the capsules. But just giving this as an example of what I mean above.
So, yes, you or anyone could just dump the powder out of the capsules of Anabolic Effect and swallow them if you wanted to - not trying to talk you into that, just explaining that it is okay to if you want to.
Dustin07
Legend
I'm only 1.5 weeks into very consistent use of Anabolic Effect (with a little bit of front loading) but my initial observation is that there seems to be an incredible boost in my recovery. I'm eating at maintenance roughly (possibly a small deficit) and have been pushing hard. Yesterday set a deadlift triple PR and by the end of my session felt absolutely smoked.
Today, I feel totally refreshed like I didn't even lift last night.
Today, I feel totally refreshed like I didn't even lift last night.
sns8778
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I want to start off with the disclaimer that I never condone the use of things like RAD-140 simply because of the raw material quality issues and cross contamination issues that go on and continue to get worse and worse on the sarm and research chemical side of the market.
However, if one decides to use RAD-140 then I don't see any reason that Anabolic XT wouldn't be good to stack with it. I could make an argument that the pathways through which Anabolic XT works could actually be very beneficial with it.