Smashin pct: ghrp6/cjc no dac/mt2/igf lr3/mgf peg

smash1904

smash1904

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I will be starting pct 6/3:

1-4 torem 60mg/day
1-16 daa
1-16 formastanzol
I was on hcg so I expect this to go well. Ran deca and test for 12 weeks.

1-16 ghrp6 100mcg x2/day
1-16 cjc without dac 100mcg x2/day
1-2,5-6,9-10,13-14 clen 20/40/60/80(increase every couple days for two weeks)
1-4,9-12 mgf peg 200mcg x2/week
5-8,13-16 igf lr3 30mcg x3/week

MT2 will be loaded during pct, and then I will switch to maintenance protocol. This is both for summer being here, and it lowering cortisol, but I also like the libido stimulation and fat loss.
 
Nice cycle, is the forma topical or capsule
 
csa2179 said:
Nice cycle, is the forma topical or capsule
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It's topical. I used formastanzol last time, but I'm thinking of trying cel forma this time around - its a little cheaper. I'm also planning on doubling up the forma dose from what I used last time, I hear its anabolic at higher doses. I may also throw in some osta after pct, but acne is a big reason I'm coming off cycle early - I've been getting hives, which then causes acne where I rash, which sucks cause its been all over my body. I've had good results with ghrp and igf, so I think adding cjc, and cycling between mgf and igf will be awesome.
 
Yeah I think it will be a good cycle, I'm on osta right now. Just came out of a two week deload so im about to start lifting heavy, anxious to see how good this osta is, this is the end of week 2.
 
csa2179 said:
Yeah I think it will be a good cycle, I'm on osta right now. Just came out of a two week deload so im about to start lifting heavy, anxious to see how good this osta is, this is the end of week 2.
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Haha ya my 1 week deload ended up being a two week deload - I started my 2nd job and I've been swamped. At least the new job is hull cleaning which has me swimming, carrying equipment and scrubbing hulls is a great arm workout...

Last time I did forma 50mg x2/day for 60 days. I want to increase that to 112 days but I've read you should only run it 6-8 weeks, and to lower the dose the last week or two. Also at this dosage could I expect it to cause acne? That's a big reason I'm going into pct, and thinking against osta...
 
Did u get RC osta or iron mag? If u got research chem. I would run it 20mg I'm on that and am retaining muscle and lower bf
 
csa2179 said:
Did u get RC osta or iron mag? If u got research chem. I would run it 20mg I'm on that and am retaining muscle and lower bf
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I have mp osta 20mg, haven't ran it before... Not sure what to expect from it, but if I can expect acne I'm prolly going to lay off for a bit.
 
956Vette said:
I like it without the peg mgf - best of luck!
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Why without peg mgf? I've heard good things about it... And that it works like an igf pct, allowing igf to work better.
 
run the lr3 + mgf at the same time. igf pre w/o 3-4x week, mgf morning in the muscles worked day before, 2-3x week. igf and mgf never on the same day.

this way u have gaps in this "cycle" without insulin.
 
just did first dose. im ****ing stoked!!
 
GLHF said:
run the lr3 + mgf at the same time. igf pre w/o 3-4x week, mgf morning in the muscles worked day before, 2-3x week. igf and mgf never on the same day.

this way u have gaps in this "cycle" without insulin.
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I read they compete for receptor sites, even taken on separate days(long half lives). But when you cycle between the two they both work better(almost like a pct to the other?). This is just the information I've came across, and if you can shed some light that'd be great. And I get what you're saying about gaps from insulin, is that important? Would it work if I did a 1 week break between them, cause that would work out well in my every 5th week deload...
 
Hey this is a little off topic, but is there anything u can use to directly enhance a specific set of muscles. My chest is gentically small. I want it to get bigger, I can develop strength in it but no size, I've tried everything as far as training. My shoulders, back, and legs are huge, I have 18inch bi's but my chest is really bring my symmetry out of wack.
 
csa2179 said:
Hey this is a little off topic, but is there anything u can use to directly enhance a specific set of muscles. My chest is gentically small. I want it to get bigger, I can develop strength in it but no size, I've tried everything as far as training. My shoulders, back, and legs are huge, I have 18inch bi's but my chest is really bring my symmetry out of wack.
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Two things: how is you're posture? If that's good then have you tried igf or mgf? Igf causes hyperplasia, and mgf increases satellite cells. My chest was already pretty big, but igf made my pecs get huge. And I've heard cycling between mgf n igf makes each of them work better. Just a thought, read up on them.
 
Thanks I will, u inject directly in to the peck?
 
csa2179 said:
Thanks I will, u inject directly in to the peck?
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Yup, half in one, half in the other. Pre or post workout, I did post. Supposedly its supposed to take awhile for the new cells to mature, but mine started looking bigger right away.
 
Is tweleve weeks long enough of a cycle for them and can u use Aas while using them?
 
csa2179 said:
Is tweleve weeks long enough of a cycle for them and can u use Aas while using them?
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I think its supposed to be 4 weeks on 2-4 weeks off for either one of them. Something about diminishing returns after that point... That's why I'm cycling between the two, that way I'm constantly getting something in effect, and getting the needed down time for each at the same time. Now I'm thinking about a 1 week break between em too.

And ya, you can run on aas, its actually more effective cause the new cells mature faster. I think the only one you wouldn't want to run it with is tren which greatly increases igf as it is.
 
Word, well I've got a test cycle coming up in August, I need to do more research cuz I'd love to add this in. What were ur dosages, and can u post a chest pic, no homo
 
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What I like to do is add 2cc, then pull 1cc into a pin and freeze it, then divide 100 tics by 16 for 4 injects a week. That comes to just over 30mcg per dose which worked fine for me.
 
Is that per peck
 
Ur chest has a nice outline, that's what I'm trying to get but it won't build.
 
csa2179 said:
Ur chest has a nice outline, that's what I'm trying to get but it won't build.
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Haha ya thanks, I feel I'm lacking mostly in my triceps, forearms and calves. Pretty happy about everything else. Post a pic so I can see what you're talking about, no homo. And ya igf/mgf will tale care of your chest not growing. Start taking it now, like igf June mgf July and then another month of igf in August when you start your cycle, and then the test will have a lot of new muscle cells to mature, your chest should get huge - just make sure you kill it on bench, pec dec n flies...
 
i dropped my fone in water so the camera doesnt work. um my chest doesnt really grow thicker or wider. it looks like i have worked out for two years and never done chest.
 
csa2179 said:
i dropped my fone in water so the camera doesnt work. um my chest doesnt really grow thicker or wider. it looks like i have worked out for two years and never done chest.
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Ya I know what you mean, it sucks. That should change with igf and test.
 
Alright the times just about come. I have torem, daa, and exemestane(don't have $ for formastane) on hand, and clen, ghrp6, cjc, peg mgf, and mt2 in the mail - should be here early next week.

I have a couple questions:
If I took my last shot on Thursday, when do I start torem? I was thinking tomorrow...
I started daa today, but when do I start the exemestane? It's 25mg caps so I'm thinking M/W/F but I'm not sure if that's too much/frequent.
Would running clen 5 on 2 off be good enough to keep me from desensitizing ect? I'd take benedryl F/S/S, but should I stick to the 2 weeks on 1 week off schedule?

Ghrp6 am/pm - 100/100
Cjc am/pm - 50/100
Mt2 250/day for 2 weeks then M/W/F
Peg mgf 250 M/Th x4 weeks

Thanks
 
Day 1:

Weight: 184

It really kind of started last night, but this is the first morning so I'm setting today as day 1. I dosed torem(60mg caps) last night and this morning, and will do another tonight, before just dosing once a day. Just kickstarting. I've been on DAA for three days now, will start exemestane on Monday. Dosed ghrp and mt2 last night and today, still waiting on the cjc... Should be here Monday.

So two questions yet to be answered:
1) Exemestane 25mg M/W/F? I know I don't want to kill my estrogen, but I need it under control cause of the daa.
2) Clen M-F weekends off? Is that enough time off vs on to not desensitize?
 
So does ghrp and cjc have synergy with mgf? Seems like the elevated gh would cause elevated igf, and mgf would keep developing satellite cells for the igf to convert...
 
Eggs, potatoes, tomatoes and avacado. I try and eat one avacado a day. I'm working on my diet cause not eating for 6 hours during the intense bout of excersise that I call work is causing me to lose weight and feel drained.

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Day: 2

Weight: 183

Still feeling good, cleaning boats actually felt easier today than last week. Got the last of my order today(ep cjc and clen). Usp ghrp6 is g2g(hungry as ****), and I swear my shoulders looked bigger and veineyer this morning after dosing mgf last night post shoulder workout. Nothing to report Usp on mt2 - I'm just sunburnt.
 
So I've been researching this product called kratom - very interesting:
Mitragyna speciosa is a leafy tree that grows from 3-15 meters tall. Its leaves contain mitragynine and are chewed as an opiate substitute and stimulant in Thailand and South-East Asia, primarily among the working class. It has a relatively long history of human use.
I'm going to try it out to see if I can stop my painkiller script.
 
Day: 3

Weight:

Started clen today, 30mcg, will dose 30/30/40/40/50 during the week with weekends off and I'm pretty sure I'm going to need to take a week off every two weeks with this protocol. Also 50mg benedryl every night.

Started cjc last night, felt refreshed on 6 hours of sleep.

One note: since I started the mt2 I've been waking up with morning wood that doesn't go away after using the bathroom, for a long time either, so I understand that side effect now.
 
smash1904 said:
Day: 3

Weight:

Started clen today, 30mcg, will dose 30/30/40/40/50 during the week with weekends off and I'm pretty sure I'm going to need to take a week off every two weeks with this protocol. Also 50mg benedryl every night.

Started cjc last night, felt refreshed on 6 hours of sleep.

One note: since I started the mt2 I've been waking up with morning wood that doesn't go away after using the bathroom, for a long time either, so I understand that side effect now.
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Lol, I've heard about that side effect of mt2 many times. Not a bad side to add while in PCT!
 
Jahcuree said:
Lol, I've heard about that side effect of mt2 many times. Not a bad side to add while in PCT!
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Ya I've been wanting to try it for awhile, and with my acne acting up, summer being here, and starting pct with it increasing libido and offering cortisol control, it seemed optimal.
 
smash1904 said:
Ya I've been wanting to try it for awhile, and with my acne acting up, summer being here, and starting pct with it increasing libido and offering cortisol control, it seemed optimal.
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Yeah man, that makes the mt2 sound like an amazing addition to PCT, my only scare with it would be getting waay too dark with the nice natural sun out. I've seen some real crazy transformations as far as skin tone with that product
 
Jahcuree said:
Yeah man, that makes the mt2 sound like an amazing addition to PCT, my only scare with it would be getting waay too dark with the nice natural sun out. I've seen some real crazy transformations as far as skin tone with that product
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Ya my head gets a lot more sun exposure than anything else, I got to watch for that.
 
Day: 5

Weight: 182

So I increased the clen dose to 50mcg and its giving me the shakes. Also I've had some serious strength drops and I'm pretty sure its from my job: my muscles are already heavily fatigued once I get to the gym.

50mcg was way too much for me - I felt shaky weak and tired all morning. I've also been getting back pumps, so all in all I think I'm on to much stuff, and have decided to drop the clen for now.
 
Day: 6

Weight: 182

So big thing I don't like about going into pct is feeling doms real bad. You take your on cycle recovery for granted tell you're off. Aside from that I feel fine.

Also I ran into a gym buddy I hadn't seen in awhile, told him why I hadn't been around much and he said "you still look big." I guess even with 10 lbs lost I don't look much smaller? I hope its been my bf getting lower, kinda looks like it.
 
Day: 8

Weight: 182

So today was my 6th day straight of work and my arms are like noodles. I had to end early, which made my boss pretty angry "not doing what you say you're going to do." Made me feel terrible, but I had trouble pulling myself out of the water onto the dock. Hope I don't get punished or fired next week.

I can really feel not being on gear now - aesthetically I'm doing fine, but my recovery is ****.

Week one
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Day: 11

Weight: 182

I really need a pre workout shake, this job is killing my gym time. I'm down to 3 exercises a day on my 4 day muscle split, and I'm having trouble finishing my sets. Really its just my push muscles that are suffering, being fatigued from work, and then making it hard to work the day after. Legs and pull seem ok, just overall energy is down.
 
Day: 13

Weight: 182

Seems my weight has more or less level out, now I just need to increase the calories a bit to start growing again. I'll be ordering some mcts tomorrow, so that should make a big difference. I also want to get some more waxy maize and maybe some casein. I'm going to give that new maximize a try, loved v2 and this version looks pretty legit.

Just want to note I have close to no libido right now, but I think that might have a bit to do with my lack of energy. Between the physical exertion and trying to start up my own test production at the same time is leaving me feeling pretty depleted.
 
Day: 14

Weight: 182

My workouts are getting a little better and I think recovery is picking up. Ordered mcts cause they didn't have em at the shop I get everything from.

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Day: 16

Weight: 183

Weight is up, same with energy and recovery, but libido still sucks. Not that I can't perform, just no desire. I'm still getting mean morning wood, which makes it weird. Still getting bad acne flare ups, but it seems to be spacing out and getting better. I look leaner and more vascular so I think I'm recomping well. Also the pain in my joints is going away.

Now I wanna talk about mt2: I will post pictures but I am far darker than I have ever been and in 2 weeks flat. I've been dosing 250mcg every morning, now I'm dosing M/W/F cause I don't want to get much darker(especially in the face). I have a lot of friends asking if I've been tanning and I just say its excessive sun exposure cause of work.
 
smash1904 said:
Day: 16

Weight: 183

Weight is up, same with energy and recovery, but libido still sucks. Not that I can't perform, just no desire. I'm still getting mean morning wood, which makes it weird. Still getting bad acne flare ups, but it seems to be spacing out and getting better. I look leaner and more vascular so I think I'm recomping well. Also the pain in my joints is going away.

Now I wanna talk about mt2: I will post pictures but I am far darker than I have ever been and in 2 weeks flat. I've been dosing 250mcg every morning, now I'm dosing M/W/F
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Hahah getting too brown?? That's scarry, I think I'd turn black on the stuff
 
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