sawa3
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Very frequently I take mine right before eating.. because I am pressed for time and so on.. I don't notice a huge difference in how it works in those few minutes. I love that it is that flexible!
Slin-Sane v2
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Very frequently I take mine right before eating.. because I am pressed for time and so on.. I don't notice a huge difference in how it works in those few minutes. I love that it is that flexible!
sawa3
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Patuba said:
So are you saying you take it, eat a meal and then another high carb meal or you take it and then don't eat for several hours?
If you take it, at and eat again, then yes you can take another if you wish.
If you take it and don't eat then I wouldn't suggest taking another before you eat just because you had nothing and you could have your blood sugar drop too low.
The other experts on the team could correct me on that. Sorry for the delay.
uvawahoowa
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sawa3 said:So are you saying you take it, eat a meal and then another high carb meal or you take it and then don't eat for several hours?
If you take it, at and eat again, then yes you can take another if you wish.
If you take it and don't eat then I wouldn't suggest taking another before you eat just because you had nothing and you could have your blood sugar drop too low.
The other experts on the team could correct me on that. Sorry for the delay.
This is the way I dose mine...I generally eat every 3 hrs ill do a cap before each high carb meal (~100g each meal) even if they are only spaced out 2-3 hrs apart
chedapalooza
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Patuba said:
Take another one for sure at 2
edsmithers
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Gone through the whole thread and have not seen whether or not V2 give the same pump as V1. Currently I'm interested in the pump effect only. Will V2 provide it like V1 or should I try to get my hands on V1 until all stock is gone?
Thanks!
Ed
Thanks!
Ed
MM11
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When taken with a higher carb pre workout meal you'll get awesome pumps. Vascularity during your work out will get a lot better as well.
bolt10
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I haven't used v1 but I have a ton of experience with GDAs (P-slin, Anabolic Pump, Glycobol) and find the pumps very comparable on v2. I honestly don't use it for that but even 1 cap prior to a pre-workout meal of only 30-40g CHO gives me great vascularity and pumps.
mr.cooper69
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Using GDAs for a pump is a waste..
vicesoldier
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Just google Glucose Disposal Agents and hundreds of sites will pop up. Dont want to post other sites on this forum
Tyler44
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Very comparable to V1 as far as pumps go. If you are using it preworkout, 30-40g carbs would probably be ideal for you for pumps and vascularity. Slin Sane offers so much more than just enhanced pump and vascularity though, that was a lot of the reason for V2. To be more than a one trick pony and be in a league of its own.
abformulations
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dbone1026 said:
On a bulk I would suggest it 100%. On a cut IMO its on you and how your macros are during that time. It's def not a waste at all. The sole purpose of a Gda is to partition nutrients to the right area.
mr.cooper69
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I wouldn't do it personally. Based on Jiagulan (sp?)'s effects on glycogen loading, preworkout would be the best time to take SSv2. Plus, I'd like to keep my Na-R-ALA away from the periworkout period.
Incorrect. The purpose of a GDA is to increase insulin sensitivity and blood glucose disposal. The effects are generally not tissue-selective.
abformulations
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mr.cooper69 said:
That's true but I thought I was Atleast semi right lol. Can't argue with you though.
mr.cooper69
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Lol man don't have that attitude
. There are ingredients that can preferentially enhance muscle insulin sensitivity while not affecting insulin sensitivity of adipocytes; however, they are not in SSv2.
Dewey99
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Lol man don't have that attitude
SSV2 + Ergobolic makes a nice combo....
Celorza
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Lol what do they have to do with each other? One is a great cortisol control , stim enhancer and sleep aid...and the other is a good GDA...Relationship pweze?
dbone1026
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Thx. I have always been doing it pre workout since I like to have carbs pre, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on something post
dbone1026
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Dewey99
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In addition to Cortisol control, Ergobolic contains Bitter Melon extract which I believe is one of the ingredients that does what Coop was saying:
"There are ingredients that can preferentially enhance muscle insulin sensitivity while not affecting insulin sensitivity of adipocytes; however, they are not in SSv2."
uvawahoowa
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mr.cooper69 said:Lol man don't have that attitude
Those ingredients are? Berberine and bitter melon? HCA?
mr.cooper69
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No, no, no.Culture evidence is not sufficient with those compounds given pharmacodynamic issues (i.e. berberine). Here is one example:Invalid Link Removed
MM11
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Post work out insulin sensitivity is already on a favorable state. That's the main reason not using it post work out. Save it for another meal.
Smitty77
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Personally, I wouldn't either... I'm still not exactly sure why companies suggest using a GDA PWO, no matter the ingredients. And I'm also the same way when it comes to antioxidant dosing as far as timing is concerned. Then again, I really only use SS for general health to dampen my carb/gluten sensitivity, so I don't particularly use it around my training.
Thank you! We were somewhat naive in our advertising of the skeletal muscle selectivity in our SSv1 marketing, but have since moved far away from that approach. While there is some evidence that banaba is selective, we can't and won't rely purely on that.
Companies that tout their product as being able to shuttle nutrients directly to muscle cells and only muscle cells are pulling a fast one.
dbone1026
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Yup, never done post workout, have always done pre so will continue with that. I have seen of late several suggestions of using post with other GDAs which is why I asked
Regarding antioxidants, should you not be dosing too close to your workout? I usually have a carb meal + SSv2 about 30 minutes pre, but seems that you guys are suggesting to keep antioxidants away from the general workout window?
Smitty77
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And I don't quite understand their logic in suggesting that.
Oh, well.
Pre-WO, it's not that big a deal; the benefits of the other ingredients will somewhat negate the concerns with the ALA... I find post- to be a crucial time, however, as it allows for some level of oxidative stress, which is actually beneficial to the body.
abformulations
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Question? Does any one dose it with a protein share filled with fruits? I'm curious to know. Because at times I have a shake with blueberries and bananas which are high in carbs. Ik it's supposed to be for complex carbs.
Smitty77
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I'm sure you'll get a mixed bag of answers, but, personally, I'd rather take a capsule before a lesser amount of CHO than others in here have mentioned. A banana is actually perfect for me because I find that I'm more energetic/alert after 20-50g. It's for any type of CHO, really. The formula is rather comprehensive in what it can accommodate.
Comparatively, after higher amounts of CHO, I find that I'm still a little lethargic, but I'm not grouchy/itchy/asleep on the couch.
xR1pp3Rx
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i will only say that last weekend i experimented with ssv2 for my supercomp. and used it in the same fasion i have used ssv1 in the past.
every 4 hrs. noteworthy tho i start 2 hrs after the first carb up drink. wich is usually something quick like karbolyn/ waxy or dextrose depending on whats on hand. no problems were noted. so far so good with the new version.
every 4 hrs. noteworthy tho i start 2 hrs after the first carb up drink. wich is usually something quick like karbolyn/ waxy or dextrose depending on whats on hand. no problems were noted. so far so good with the new version.
Tyler44
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Every 4 hours? Very interesting, what was your carb intake that day?
MM11
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Thanks for the review. How many caps a day does your scheme put you at?
MM11
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There are few ingredients to overlap sedges NA R ALA and has the same L Norvaline dose. Slinsane has other ingredients that are much more specific to its purpose. it seems that need to Slinn is an all-around product aiming at recomp rather than specifically being a GDA. I am not sure why synephrine HCL is in there. Personally i wish it wasn't.
Also slinsane and decimate is still cheaper and would be a much better profile in my opinion for a recount or cut
Check out the transformer stack Nutra planet. Three products for the same price as Need2slin.
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abformulations
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^^great deal there
MM11
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Thanks, decimate + slinsane v2 itself is very effective in itself. Personally I was very impressed it exceeded my expectations.
Smitty77
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A lot:
Need2Slin
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Slin-Sane
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You can see, firstly, that we elected to not include any type of stimulant (synephrine). Our banaba is a full-spectrum plant extract and not only the leaf. While the norvaline in N2S is double, you might scroll up and find a post by MrCooper citing that more isn't necessarily better with norvaline (though I'm sure he was alluding to amounts in excess of 200mg).
In comparing evidence between jiaogulan and gymnema, we were also far more impressed with jiaogulan's overall benefits in relation to general health, far beyond a (and I've used this before) one-trick pony like gymnema. Had we elected to include ALCAR, it would most likely be at a more efficacious dose, and we entertained no intention on including a low dose of forskolin.
We formulated SSv2 to be a simple, streamlined, and highly effective product that goes beyond glucose disposal and ventures farther into a general health supplement.
Smitty77
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Good catch... Didn't even see that.
So, comparatively, cap v. cap, there's less Na-R-ALA (SSv2 contains 100mg of ALA/capsule) and much less banaba (and that doesn't factor in a very minute amount of ALCAR).