Dream-N-Grow was my favorite before I tried OL AMNES1A. It may take some time to adjust to any product containing melatonin at first, but my sleep has definitely improved since utilizing AMNES1A.
Doesn't prolonged melatonin use cause dependancy?Dream-N-Grow was my favorite before I tried OL AMNES1A. It may take some time to adjust to any product containing melatonin at first, but my sleep has definitely improved since utilizing AMNES1A.
Melatonin leaves me really groggy in the morningHave you considered trying melatonin ? It’s helped me in the past. I like to take 10 mg 1 hour before bed. No more than 10mg or you’ll just waste your time and money speeding up a tolerance build up.
I'm not taking it every night because of the phenibut, as I know it can become addictive.Slims are you taking phenibut every night before bed?
I ask because Phenibut needs to be limited to two times a week or less.
One thing that got me thinking is you said you wake up after going to sleep, and that may be because blood sugar levels are high.
Putting supplements aside because they have their place, Meditation first thing in the morning, and me focusing on being a more authentic, clamer, peaceful forgiving, loving person has helped keep stress levels in check so I recommend some guided meditations like this channel; puts out https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_mPlZbomAgNzfAUElRL7w
When i dont have the place to myself I download ones I think I will get the most benefit out of,tin my mp3 player and upon awaking sit in bed and do it, helps tremendouslyI'm not taking it every night because of the phenibut, as I know it can become addictive.
My blood sugar levels seem to be fine and stable, at least upon waking. I don't consume any carbs from about three hours before bed, I don't actually take many carbs at all.
Meditation sounds like a good idea, and maybe I'll give it a try someday, but at the moment it's just not viable in terms of time or space.
There's 7 people in my house, having the place to myself or getting any peace and quiet is a very rare occasion. I appreciate the advice thoughWhen i dont have the place to myself I download ones I think I will get the most benefit out of,tin my mp3 player and upon awaking sit in bed and do it, helps tremendously
Such an immature response... Get roids build muscle! Jerk off before bed! Money saved.All these supps are overpriced crap! Get roids build muscle! Drink 2 beers before bed! Money well spent
Whatever,it works!Such an immature response... Get roids build muscle! Jerk off before bed! Money saved.
I was joking. I think.Whatever,it works!
Then I recommend Anesthetized, it's been a life changerBSL product seems to get a lot of hype. I work midnights and sleep during the day..not normal so sleep is super hard for me
Any recommendations for those of us that prescription sleep aids/melatonin/Benadryl haven’t worked?L-Tryptophan is a supplement for sleep. I didn't see it mentioned, Only melatonin and Benadryl.
Limit screen time from phones and tablets. They emit a blue light which will keep you up.
Try to reduce heat, light, and noise. Someone mentioned magnesium oxide. This isn't the one to use. It has a bioavailability of only 4%. There are many types of Magnesium. I don't remember which one was good for sleep. A google search should return the correct results. Roughly 80% of the U.S. population is magnesium deficient.
I would avoid prescription sleep aids. They can have a myriad number of detrimental effects. New research indicates they can wreak havoc on the bodies neurotransmitters.
Ambien stopped working for me and Xanax and Valium don’t really help.Any recommendations for those of us that prescription sleep aids/melatonin/Benadryl haven’t worked?
Alprazolam works really well for me if needed, I dont know whats te legal status for that in the states. 0.25mg for start, but builds tolerance fast. I used to use 0.25 for a month then double it for a month up to 1mg. Then cycle off it at least for a week, and return to 0.25.Any recommendations for those of us that prescription sleep aids/melatonin/Benadryl haven’t worked?
This is very interesting to me. I know bluelight is supposed to really impact sleep but I didn't know about filter software... I personally notice that when I don't watch TV or spend time on any devices I sleep much better and fall asleep as soon as I hit the bed. The nights I lay down and watch tv before bed or do computer work, i have a lot more issues.For me bluelight filter software for mobile/ computer and a filter glass to wear for two hours before sleep. 1pc 3mg melatonin tablet and 1g tryptophan 1 hour before with valeriana, and ashwaganda with dinner, then i go to bed right away.
I use f.lux on pc for that, my mobile has built in filter (s8)This is very interesting to me. I know bluelight is supposed to really impact sleep but I didn't know about filter software... I personally notice that when I don't watch TV or spend time on any devices I sleep much better and fall asleep as soon as I hit the bed. The nights I lay down and watch tv before bed or do computer work, i have a lot more issues.
I’m on ambien, Xanax and quetiapine as well as Belsomra, gabapentin and melatoninAmbien stopped working for me and Xanax and Valium don’t really help.
Quetiapine and phenergan (promethazine) do work tho and they don’t stop working
I’m already on alprazolam, ambien, queitiapine, gabapentin, Belsomra and melatoninAlprazolam works really well for me if needed, I dont know whats te legal status for that in the states. 0.25mg for start, but builds tolerance fast. I used to use 0.25 for a month then double it for a month up to 1mg. Then cycle off it at least for a week, and return to 0.25.
Does that work for you?I’m on ambien, Xanax and quetiapine as well as Belsomra, gabapentin and melatonin
Honestly the combination of all those meds still doesn’t put me to sleep.Does that work for you?
I'm not sure what belsomran and gabapentin do but if that combo is unreliable then I'd recommend switching the Ambien and Xanax out for phenergan (promethazine) and giving that a go.
Ambien and Xanax are both widely known to stop working after a while and are also addictive
Just jumping in here, if you can help it, stay away from the benzos, I started with xanax for Generalized anxiety, doc started me on 3 2mgs a day. At first I only took it every now and then. But after a few weeks of taking it more often, I decided I didn't feel like I needed it one day, and had two seizures that day. Months later, I ran out like a day before my refill and boom another seizure. My doc switched me to klonopin which has a longer half life but I still can't miss a dose. Just a warning, it doesn't happen to everyone, but I had never had a seizure before in my life. And I just don't trust sleeping scripts. But I was prescribed trazodone for a month once. It worked ok from what I remember. I just didn't want to be on another script.Does that work for you?
I'm not sure what belsomran and gabapentin do but if that combo is unreliable then I'd recommend switching the Ambien and Xanax out for phenergan (promethazine) and giving that a go.
Ambien and Xanax are both widely known to stop working after a while and are also addictive
If I were you I’d speak to my doctor about how that combination isn’t working and request to tryHonestly the combination of all those meds still doesn’t put me to sleep.
Belsomra is a med for sleep as well.
Gabapentin is an anti-seizure med with off label uses as an anxiolytic and induces sleepiness.
That’s freaky.Just jumping in here, if you can help it, stay away from the benzos, I started with xanax for Generalized anxiety, doc started me on 3 2mgs a day. At first I only took it every now and then. But after a few weeks of taking it more often, I decided I didn't feel like I needed it one day, and had two seizures that day. Months later, I ran out like a day before my refill and boom another seizure. My doc switched me to klonopin which has a longer half life but I still can't miss a dose. Just a warning, it doesn't happen to everyone, but I had never had a seizure before in my life. And I just don't trust sleeping scripts. But I was prescribed trazodone for a month once. It worked ok from what I remember. I just didn't want to be on another script.
I’m already on:If I were you I’d speak to my doctor about how that combination isn’t working and request to try
25mg phenergan
200mg quetiapine
A night.
If you can’t sleep after half an hour of lying in bed then you could take another 100mg of quetiapine with 12.5mg of phenergan (promethazine). My doctor told me that 400mg of quetiapine a night’s ok, so if the above wasn’t enough for the first night then you can up the dose of quetiapine.
Atm I’m also taking some Olympus Labs amnesia before bed each day which helps but isn’t necessary and I mainly take it for better quality sleep. You could try adding that on if needed.
The worst case scenario would be that you won’t be able to get to sleep but that’s no worse.
These two meds were such a revelation for me. Before I was introduced to them I’d go three days without sleep at a time because the ambien and trazodone had stopped working and I just couldn’t sleep. Good luck dude
Be careful of klonopin!! My old psychiatrist (not current) prescribed me klonopin 2mg x3/day and I started to get severe memory problems.Just jumping in here, if you can help it, stay away from the benzos, I started with xanax for Generalized anxiety, doc started me on 3 2mgs a day. At first I only took it every now and then. But after a few weeks of taking it more often, I decided I didn't feel like I needed it one day, and had two seizures that day. Months later, I ran out like a day before my refill and boom another seizure. My doc switched me to klonopin which has a longer half life but I still can't miss a dose. Just a warning, it doesn't happen to everyone, but I had never had a seizure before in my life. And I just don't trust sleeping scripts. But I was prescribed trazodone for a month once. It worked ok from what I remember. I just didn't want to be on another script.
Well the reasoning for the switch was that it has anti-seizure properties, a longer half life which makes it a little safer in case I forget to take my dose on time, but yeah I eventually want to get off benzos completely, but now I'm concerned because of the seizure issue, xanax is great for panic attacks, but I have more generalized anxiety so even though they dont hit as hard, they keep me level for a longer amount of time. I used to really like valium, but now I feel as though I have to take 2 10mg vals to get the effect of just 1, 2mg kp or zan. My doctor did not stress enough the dangers of missing doses, I may be more sensitive then most but still, the first time it happened, I was at work, about to walk out to my car to drive to get lunch when out of nowhere boom I fell face down on the hard floor and came to covered in blood from my mouth, paramedics all around me, like 30 coworkers watching in the background, and I just had no idea what happened, could barely answer their questions, like someone just hit the reset button on my brain and stuff was slowly coming back as I started recognizing faces and where I was and could barely remember the whole morning. Luckily I didn't bust my teeth out, but my bottom teeth almost penetrated my bottom lip, and every time it has happened, I've bitten my tongue leaving a huge, swollen, bruised lump. All eventually healed but I was about to drive. I could have died or killed someone else. I had no warning signs, nose I can kind of tell the feeling, headaches and just real lethargic, jelly legs, etc. when I stop its going to be a lengthy dangerous process I hate to even think about.Be careful of klonopin!! My old psychiatrist (not current) prescribed me klonopin 2mg x3/day and I started to get severe memory problems.
Currently I’m on Xanax and haven’t increased my dose in 9 months. I refuse to let my doc prescribe me a higher dose!
That is ridiculous! It is scary to think about coming off. I hope it works out well for both of us. I'd have to taper a long time and maybe they'll give me gabapentin or something better to at least avoid seizures. Good luck man, some of these docs just have no clue the trap they catch us in with how they prescribe such potentially dangerous drugs to people.I had a seizure many years ago while withdrawing from Xanax. Long story short, I was taken off it cold turkey by incompetent medical professionals..
I was subsequently placed on 2mg Klonopin a day....for the last 14 years. I have had no issues with it except I do think it has effected my memory in recent years. I am hopeful to be able to wean off of it in the near future. We shall see...
Damn dude...Well the reasoning for the switch was that it has anti-seizure properties, a longer half life which makes it a little safer in case I forget to take my dose on time, but yeah I eventually want to get off benzos completely, but now I'm concerned because of the seizure issue, xanax is great for panic attacks, but I have more generalized anxiety so even though they dont hit as hard, they keep me level for a longer amount of time. I used to really like valium, but now I feel as though I have to take 2 10mg vals to get the effect of just 1, 2mg kp or zan. My doctor did not stress enough the dangers of missing doses, I may be more sensitive then most but still, the first time it happened, I was at work, about to walk out to my car to drive to get lunch when out of nowhere boom I fell face down on the hard floor and came to covered in blood from my mouth, paramedics all around me, like 30 coworkers watching in the background, and I just had no idea what happened, could barely answer their questions, like someone just hit the reset button on my brain and stuff was slowly coming back as I started recognizing faces and where I was and could barely remember the whole morning. Luckily I didn't bust my teeth out, but my bottom teeth almost penetrated my bottom lip, and every time it has happened, I've bitten my tongue leaving a huge, swollen, bruised lump. All eventually healed but I was about to drive. I could have died or killed someone else. I had no warning signs, nose I can kind of tell the feeling, headaches and just real lethargic, jelly legs, etc. when I stop its going to be a lengthy dangerous process I hate to even think about.
I agree there are a lot of incompetent psychiatrists out there! I have had 3 or 4 psychiatrists that should never have gotten their medical degree.I had a seizure many years ago while withdrawing from Xanax. Long story short, I was taken off it cold turkey by incompetent medical professionals..
I was subsequently placed on 2mg Klonopin a day....for the last 14 years. I have had no issues with it except I do think it has effected my memory in recent years. I am hopeful to be able to wean off of it in the near future. We shall see...
Yeah...u got that right. I was in a powerless position when I was taken off cold turkey, but they should have known better.I agree there are a lot of incompetent psychiatrists out there! I have had 3 or 4 psychiatrists that should never have gotten their medical degree.
Good luck to you in the future. No psych meds should ever be stopped cold turkey.
Do you take benzos for anxiety or panic disorder?
I will have to check those out. Thanks!Ricky10 Ynn3kc1 you guys should also try chlorpromazine or prazosin they are two off label anxiolytics
Also gabapentin or buspirone. 1 of those 4 will hopefully work for you.Yeah...u got that right. I was in a powerless position when I was taken off cold turkey, but they should have known better.
I take Klonopin now just because I have to in order to avoid withdrawal. That is all it does for me now..
Initially, the benzos were for extreme acute anxiety. It was something I had to work on getting through for over a year though..
I will have to check those out. Thanks!
Might just have to load up those plates and squat the Bulgarian method!Honestly the combination of all those meds still doesn’t put me to sleep.
Belsomra is a med for sleep as well.
Gabapentin is an anti-seizure med with off label uses as an anxiolytic and induces sleepiness.
Not gonna lie I had to look up this method! I’ve never heard of the Bulgarian method before. So from what I understand you lift 8hrs per day right?Might just have to load up those plates and squat the Bulgarian method!
No need to rattle like a pill box when you can knock yourself out naturally plus put on some impressive legs this way
I really like Amnes1a from OL.Haven't been sleeping to well lately, which is really wearing me out and hindering progress. I've tried a lot of the self help stuff, like breathing techniques, cutting off screen use an hour or so before bed etc, but nothing has helped so far.
I'm looking for sleep supp recommendations and opinions/experiences with herbals, such as Valerian Root extracts.
Anesthetized by Black Stone Labs hss been doing a brilliant jobI really like Amnes1a from OL.
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