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Wanted to try this but I'm scared of potential anxiety from the synephrine. I couldn't use alphamine at all even at one scoop it always left me really restless and jittery. I was gonna buy shift but just went with a month's worth of F-95 instead. Stacking with x gels , reduce xt and E9 all summer :)
 
hiimnotcool said:
Wanted to try this but I'm scared of potential anxiety from the synephrine. I couldn't use alphamine at all even at one scoop it always left me really restless and jittery. I was gonna buy shift but just went with a month's worth of F-95 instead. Stacking with x gels , reduce xt and E9 all summer :)
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Synephrine alone should be just fine, so you can use shift as long as you don't use it with other stimulants :) It does not act centrally
 
Synapsin said:
Synephrine alone should be just fine, so you can use shift as long as you don't use it with other stimulants :) It does not act centrally
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This was my thought as well. I've heard most of the adverse reactions came when mixed with stimulants. Though still rarely do I hear any issues with our synephrine in particular.
 
i didn't have any issues with synephrine even when i tested it along with 2 scoops of advanced lol which has more synephrine. i did split the doses apart however, on the Y alphamine with shift now though.
 
If I take 2 caps in the morning how much caffeine can I take at the same time? 200mg or less? I have been taking 1 cap with my pre and 1 cap later in the day. Btw, I love taking it with my pre. It gives it an extra kick :D
 
mathius said:
If I take 2 caps in the morning how much caffeine can I take at the same time? 200mg or less? I have been taking 1 cap with my pre and 1 cap later in the day. Btw, I love taking it with my pre. It gives it an extra kick :D
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You'd be fine taking 200mg with two upon waking.
 
mathius said:
If I take 2 caps in the morning how much caffeine can I take at the same time? 200mg or less? I have been taking 1 cap with my pre and 1 cap later in the day. Btw, I love taking it with my pre. It gives it an extra kick :D
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We designed it with the purpose of stacking with caffeinated products like alphamine so like bolt mentioned you are good to go sir.
 
Interesting choice of ingredients considering the Alphamine writeup...

Alphamine, Potent but safe
Higenamine mimics the potent weight loss effects of synephrine and ephedrine, but minus the dangerous side effects — instead, it has been shown to be incredibly safe in humans.[6,7]
 
burfect said:
Interesting choice of ingredients considering the Alphamine writeup...

Alphamine, Potent but safe
Higenamine mimics the potent weight loss effects of synephrine and ephedrine, but minus the dangerous side effects — instead, it has been shown to be incredibly safe in humans.[6,7]
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p-synephrine is perfectly safe, and you'll see posts of mine from over 4 years ago stating so if you search for them. The issues the product write up mentions is the potential for side effects when combined with caffeine, but we use a low dose of caffeine in alphamine so it should not be an issue. We also recommend people start with 1 scoop of alphamine if they choose to combine it with SHIFT and assess their tolerance before adding more doses of alphamine.
 
I will have to try the combo:

2 scoops of alphamine and 2 scoops of high volume pre-workout.

Has anyone done this before?
 
cbsharpe said:
I will have to try the combo:

2 scoops of alphamine and 2 scoops of high volume pre-workout.

Has anyone done this before?
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This would be called, the ThermoPump cocktail :).
 
cbsharpe said:
I will have to try the combo:

2 scoops of alphamine and 2 scoops of high volume pre-workout.

Has anyone done this before?
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Done today mate as a pre wo and my back was pumped as fukc :) also I was feeling great, smooth energy lot of endurance and strength :)
 
Actually I had

2x high volume scoops
2x alphamine scoops
2x AMINO IV scoops

Boooom
 
Xrkc6x said:
Done today mate as a pre wo and my back was pumped as fukc :) also I was feeling great, smooth energy lot of endurance and strength :)
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Dang, today is my off day, but I may hit up the gym today and try this ThermoPump cocktail.......
 
cbsharpe said:
Okay, I did it guys and wow...nice, clean energy. This is going to be my pwo of choice for now on. Thanks everyone!!!!
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Glad you enjoyed it! Definitely a quality combination.
 
cbsharpe said:
Okay, I did it guys and wow...nice, clean energy. This is going to be my pwo of choice for now on. Thanks everyone!!!!
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its a but "expensive" as a pre WO since you need 3 products.... so I would ask PES to make the cocktail "real" and available ahahahhahahah

but yes it is worth the money :) its great pre WO

i am glad you enjoyed it!
 
Xrkc6x said:
its a but "expensive" as a pre WO since you need 3 products.... so I would ask PES to make the cocktail "real" and available ahahahhahahah

but yes it is worth the money :) its great pre WO

i am glad you enjoyed it!
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Yeah, it can get expensive but since I didn't have Amino IV on hand, I used another EAA product I already had that is pretty good. But maybe, just maybe PES will take your idea into consideration.

I do know that I will using this cocktail once again this afternoon...it's back and legs day today.
 
cbsharpe said:
Yeah, it can get expensive but since I didn't have Amino IV on hand, I used another EAA product I already had that is pretty good. But maybe, just maybe PES will take your idea into consideration.

I do know that I will using this cocktail once again this afternoon...it's back and legs day today.
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if you allow me to give you an advise..... please "AVOID" taking 2 scoops of HIGH VOLUME on legs day.... hahahahahahahah! every time I do I can't train properly due to the extreme pumps on my legs, I am not joking..... it hurts!
 
Xrkc6x said:
if you allow me to give you an advise..... please "AVOID" taking 2 scoops of HIGH VOLUME on legs day.... hahahahahahahah! every time I do I can't train properly due to the extreme pumps on my legs, I am not joking..... it hurts!
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LOL..but man, that would be so hard to do. Well last night, I worked my biceps only because it really wasn't my day to train but I was anxious to try this "cocktail" and almost 1/2 way through my work out, everything kicked into high gear. My biceps were pumped up well after my workout was over leading up until it was time to go to bed. Awesome feeling.
 
cbsharpe said:
LOL..but man, that would be so hard to do. Well last night, I worked my biceps only because it really wasn't my day to train but I was anxious to try this "cocktail" and almost 1/2 way through my work out, everything kicked into high gear. My biceps were pumped up well after my workout was over leading up until it was time to go to bed. Awesome feeling.
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yes it is awesome! and one more thing that would be better for "timing" is taking the high volume at least 45-60 minutes before, at least this has worked better for me, when I start I am already pumped :)
 
Xrkc6x said:
yes it is awesome! and one more thing that would be better for "timing" is taking the high volume at least 45-60 minutes before, at least this has worked better for me, when I start I am already pumped :)
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You know, this makes great sense and you're right. Here's why. I took my cocktail yesterday around 4:40 pm and by 5:25-5:30, it kicked in so you make a valid point. Because of this, I put my cocktail in a container that I'm going to take while I am at work so by the time I get to the gym, it would have been 45-60 minutes in my system.
 
cbsharpe said:
You know, this makes great sense and you're right. Here's why. I took my cocktail yesterday around 4:40 pm and by 5:25-5:30, it kicked in so you make a valid point. Because of this, I put my cocktail in a container that I'm going to take while I am at work so by the time I get to the gym, it would have been 45-60 minutes in my system.
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that is exactly what i do every time :) time can be different for everybody tho but if you say that you took the magic elixir at 4.40 and it kicked in at roughly 5.25-30 then its matching my protocol :) enjoy a full sesh of pumps dude!
 
cbsharpe said:
You know, this makes great sense and you're right. Here's why. I took my cocktail yesterday around 4:40 pm and by 5:25-5:30, it kicked in so you make a valid point. Because of this, I put my cocktail in a container that I'm going to take while I am at work so by the time I get to the gym, it would have been 45-60 minutes in my system.
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Yep, the nitrates take roughly and hour to get into full effect. I usually dose the HV earlier and the other stuff closer to the workout. Plus then you get two nice flavored drinks ;)
 
Everything Is pumped here hahahahah
 
burfect said:
Anyone running this with EC?
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I ran a bottle of shift with an eca stack and e and alphamine, depending on the day. I pretty much took all on an empty stomach, then did a fasted cardio session. I dropped around 5 pounds. cant say what it really contributed as ECA is very effective imo, and almost impossible to beat with supps from what ive experienced. I cant tell you that it did not give me any issues. Even when i took 2 scoops alphamine as a caffiene source, 1 bronkaid, and 81 aspirin, plus the shift i had no issues. However i will not reccommend doing it, its alot going on at once and after about a week i decided i might be risking too much since its alot of stims.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
I ran a bottle of shift with an eca stack and e and alphamine, depending on the day. I pretty much took all on an empty stomach, then did a fasted cardio session. I dropped around 5 pounds. cant say what it really contributed as ECA is very effective imo, and almost impossible to beat with supps from what ive experienced. I cant tell you that it did not give me any issues. Even when i took 2 scoops alphamine as a caffiene source, 1 bronkaid, and 81 aspirin, plus the shift i had no issues. However i will not reccommend doing it, its alot going on at once and after about a week i decided i might be risking too much since its alot of stims.
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Are you talking reformulated shift with the Synephrine... or the old version without it?

Thanks
 
EMPIREMIND said:
I ran a bottle of shift with an eca stack and e and alphamine, depending on the day. I pretty much took all on an empty stomach, then did a fasted cardio session. I dropped around 5 pounds. cant say what it really contributed as ECA is very effective imo, and almost impossible to beat with supps from what ive experienced. I cant tell you that it did not give me any issues. Even when i took 2 scoops alphamine as a caffiene source, 1 bronkaid, and 81 aspirin, plus the shift i had no issues. However i will not reccommend doing it, its alot going on at once and after about a week i decided i might be risking too much since its alot of stims.
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I've heard many comment on how well EC compliments with the new version of shift. Throwing in Alphamine seems a bit over kill and maybe unnecessary though. My heart might explode!
 
LiveToLift said:
I've heard many comment on how well EC compliments with the new version of shift. Throwing in Alphamine seems a bit over kill and maybe unnecessary though. My heart might explode!
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Yea i def agree. I think you could probably interchange, i just really like the muscle sparing aspect of alphamine for fasted cardio. Alphamine and e is a wicked combo, but im sure eca stacked with shift would work too. I was doing all three on some days, others just eca and shift. It def was effective, but i was really in a recomp so i couldnt tell fully. If i cut the cals and continued it would have been more apparent. I can say shift cut my appetite. I had to force myself to eat some days. Combined with eca u could fast the whole day lol
 
EMPIREMIND said:
Yea i def agree. I think you could probably interchange, i just really like the muscle sparing aspect of alphamine for fasted cardio. Alphamine and e is a wicked combo, but im sure eca stacked with shift would work too. I was doing all three on some days, others just eca and shift. It def was effective, but i was really in a recomp so i couldnt tell fully. If i cut the cals and continued it would have been more apparent. I can say shift cut my appetite. I had to force myself to eat some days. Combined with eca u could fast the whole day lol
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Shift annihilating appetite is a very common benefit reported. I can only imagine the power of it stacked along side the rest of this stack you mention. Lol
 
My run of shift will be over in a couple days... I'm terrified of the return of the hunger ha
 
ma70 said:
Glad I have my second bottle ready. 4 more weeks of safety
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Already finishing my second :(

If the hunger comes raging back, it may be an 8 weeks on, 4 DAYS off protocol for me ha
 
i have one more week..... what to run after? back to alphamine? or what? :( ill be hungry as fukc!
 
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