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I'm a 35 year old male suffering with low testosterone, I was on TRT for close to 3.5 years & my sperm count went to 0. My wife and I are about to go through an IUI with hopes of getting her pregnant. A quick story on me, some doctors state your count can go up within 4 months after ceasing testosterone & with the help of climid/HCG. However I was significantly shut down and took me 1 full year to get my count back up (80 million), HCG and Clomid may have slightly helped but I can tell you from my personal experience that I don't respond very well to HCG. It's FSH or nothing to signal my pituitary to do it's job correctly. My wife and I want a couple children so I need some advice as to how to proceed. I don't feel that injectable or transdermal testosterone is best for preserving my fertility even with taking concomitant HCG or even FSH. My primary care physician is a firm believer in a product called Natesto, in fact I'm seeing her about a month from now. I have read reports where men's fertility was preserved through it's use, some might say why not just stick with clomid. I've been on clomid too long now and it has decreased my sex drive and I don't feel great on it. Has anyone on this forum ever had any experience with Natesto vs. taking an OTC PCT supplement or test booster? Thank you.
 

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Why don’t you think injectable or transdermal test won’t help? I googled natesto, it’s literally nasal testosterone gel. If you don’t think transdermal will help, nasal won’t really be different.
 

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Jeremy I appreciate your response there is a clinical study going on right now with natesto to find out if it holds up to its claim of preserving sperm count while boosting testosterone. Unlike TD and injectable this drug doesnt stay in the system long enough to inhibit LH and FSH production so it claims. This is radically different than androgel and injectable testosterone.
 
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You'd probably get better results from 10mg injectable testosterone daily. Use a .5cc insulin syringe to measure it out. Emeric Delczeg is the first person I know of promoting it. Natesto is still transdermal testosterone in a nasal delivery system. If you take enough to relieve symptoms of low T then it will impact fertility and natural LH/FSH. I've read you're not responsive to hCG and this points to being primary vs secondary. hCG tends to stimulate the Leydig cells more than the Sertoli cells and would explain why FSH works better for you.

Your doctor is not correct, straight off the warnings from the product.

Sperm counts: This medication may reduce sperm counts if high doses are used or if it is used for a prolonged period.
 
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I'm a 35 year old male suffering with low testosterone, I was on TRT for close to 3.5 years & my sperm count went to 0. My wife and I are about to go through an IUI with hopes of getting her pregnant. A quick story on me, some doctors state your count can go up within 4 months after ceasing testosterone & with the help of climid/HCG. However I was significantly shut down and took me 1 full year to get my count back up (80 million), HCG and Clomid may have slightly helped but I can tell you from my personal experience that I don't respond very well to HCG. It's FSH or nothing to signal my pituitary to do it's job correctly. My wife and I want a couple children so I need some advice as to how to proceed. I don't feel that injectable or transdermal testosterone is best for preserving my fertility even with taking concomitant HCG or even FSH. My primary care physician is a firm believer in a product called Natesto, in fact I'm seeing her about a month from now. I have read reports where men's fertility was preserved through it's use, some might say why not just stick with clomid. I've been on clomid too long now and it has decreased my sex drive and I don't feel great on it. Has anyone on this forum ever had any experience with Natesto vs. taking an OTC PCT supplement or test booster? Thank you.
Man, I wish people would learn to format text better.
After a quick scan.

  • TRT 3.5 years.
  • 0 Sperm.
  • You now want kids. (Clomid etc. failed)
The stuff you want to do is all about preservation, and it looks like you've lost yours already. Here's an option for you.

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Look into Triptorelin, a 100mcg dose of tripto creates a strong GnRH signal to the pituitary -> release LH & FSH which subsequently cause increased T synthesis and spermatogenesis via WORKING testes
 
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Look into Triptorelin, a 100mcg dose of tripto creates a strong GnRH signal to the pituitary -> release LH & FSH which subsequently cause increased T synthesis and spermatogenesis via WORKING testes
The problem lies with finding real triptorelin. I know they typically come in 100mcg vials, some don’t. So, OP if you go this route ensure you ONLY take 100mcg or you can chemically castrate your self (I guess you haven’t produced sperm anyhow, so that doesn’t matter really.)
 

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I'm a 35 year old male suffering with low testosterone, I was on TRT for close to 3.5 years & my sperm count went to 0. My wife and I are about to go through an IUI with hopes of getting her pregnant. A quick story on me, some doctors state your count can go up within 4 months after ceasing testosterone & with the help of climid/HCG. However I was significantly shut down and took me 1 full year to get my count back up (80 million), HCG and Clomid may have slightly helped but I can tell you from my personal experience that I don't respond very well to HCG. It's FSH or nothing to signal my pituitary to do it's job correctly. My wife and I want a couple children so I need some advice as to how to proceed. I don't feel that injectable or transdermal testosterone is best for preserving my fertility even with taking concomitant HCG or even FSH. My primary care physician is a firm believer in a product called Natesto, in fact I'm seeing her about a month from now. I have read reports where men's fertility was preserved through it's use, some might say why not just stick with clomid. I've been on clomid too long now and it has decreased my sex drive and I don't feel great on it. Has anyone on this forum ever had any experience with Natesto vs. taking an OTC PCT supplement or test booster? Thank you.
This study was saying "Available data has demonstrated that a low dosage of TU (40 mg t.i.d.) combined with tamoxifen can be used in treating idiopathic male infertility, does not reduce sperm quality and enhances the pregnancy rate more than when tamoxifen is used alone.2 Currently, TU is mainly used clinically at 40 or 80 mg per day for treating male infertility." Unfortunately, I dont think we can get nebido in the US as of yet.

 
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I was in your position super low test. My Dr had me come off everything no pct no trt just everything. After approx 2 months my wife became pregnant
 

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I was in your position super low test. My Dr had me come off everything no pct no trt just everything. After approx 2 months my wife became pregnant
How the hell did you even manage to have an erection bro lmao if I went off trt my dick would be soft as a noodle even on 20mg cialis
 
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How the hell did you even manage to have an erection bro lmao if I went off trt my dick would be soft as a noodle even on 20mg cialis
Just one of the lucky ones I had been on for approx 2years when I came off everything completely cold Turkey and normal body function stayed
 

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