SDNG vs 3AD

herkfsu

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Could someone from AX give me a brief comparison of 3ad and sdng. Which has seen better gains or more sides, things like this. I am trying to decide whether to hold out for 3ad or go for sdng. If this has been done already please someone link me. I could not find it. Thanks!
 
I have tried them both. I got leaner on 3-AD and Stronger, better workouts, and more pumped on SDNG.

If I were summer cutting I would probably opt for 3-AD. Other wise I would jump all over SDNG.
 
N-i-c-e....!!!
 
I did not gain many pounds off of either but I was also in a caloric deficit both times.

This Monday I come off the summer diet and start eating big again. SDNG + Epi is what I am running for the moderate bulk.
 
I think we start picking SDNG testers tomorrow or Monday? (24 total)

Hits the stores a week or two after that.
 
I think we start picking SDNG testers tomorrow or Monday? (24 total)

Hits the stores a week or two after that.

:stick:..... i finish my act ext tester log in a week.... perfect timing.... id looooooove to see what the new SD brings to the table....:stick:
 
oh maaaaacey pooooo, poop love you loooong time.... :lol: well hopefully he'll find it in the kindness of his heart to bless this AxHole with a chance:thumbsup:

well thanks for the vote of confidence...

have you run epi before yet or will this be your first run with the SDNG??? i think that stack would be sick for a lean bulk... loads of strength as well.
 
I have not. In fact I have not ran a methyl in two years. I was taking SDNG pre-workout and it was phenomenal. With Epi I should put on some nice size to go with the SDNG strength and pumps.
 
I have not. In fact I have not ran a methyl in two years.

let me guess it was a PP, SD stack??? .... i loved that stack... prob my favorite cycle to date....

well let me say then your in for a treat... Epi makes you feel GREAT and is virtually side free... even being a methyl its still very easy on the liver and lipids.... like i said your gonna have a sick strength stack on your hands there... and if you diet allows youll put on some poundage as well.
 
Hey mace i'd like to throw my hat in the ring for this one(SDNG). I've been off all supps other than creatine for the last 6 months, so i'm primed and ready to go bro.....:D
 
I think we start picking SDNG testers tomorrow or Monday? (24 total)

Hits the stores a week or two after that.

i have 2 more weeks of SERM and test booster for my cycle.

id really love a chance as long as its advised and safe for me and my timing to test a product like this.

might help in my recovery a lot. unless of course this isnt healthy for me to do im not familiar at all with what new SDNG does.
 
i have 2 more weeks of SERM and test booster for my cycle.

id really love a chance as long as its advised and safe for me and my timing to test a product like this.

might help in my recovery a lot. unless of course this isnt healthy for me to do im not familiar at all with what new SDNG does.
its unsafe for all wanna-be cops and anyone in New York! :rofl:
 
sh!t i'm down if you need testers! i'm done with my pct in about a week.

come on mace you know u wannnnnnnnnnnnaaaa!!!!! :D
 
OOH! MACE! MACE!!

Pick me, braddah....pick me! You know I'm good for a test!

HA!!!! ;) :thumbsup:
 
pity, timing doesn't even work out for me to ask, doing the Palo Alto Labs transformation contest the next 8 weeks. I'll be looking to see the results tho, as I will be doing a cycle right after the contest :)
 
Would someone who runs a SDNG log PLEASE include some cardio into their workouts? The reason I stopped taking SD cycles, aside from the lethargy was that I just couldnt do cardio on it, stayed too pumped for it... From the sounds of things, SDNG will pretty much be the same thing...

I'd so love to run SDNG + Epi though, wow... I just finished up a 4 week epi solo cycle and it was incredible. Strength was nothing like SD but my body certainly loved it. And so far PCT has been a breeze...
 
has that contest started yet bro?? im sure youll do great.

I started today, should be fun as it is a 20 person contest across a 4 boards. Not related but I found another source for resveratrol, where I can probably afford to do 2g of active a day, so I may go for a full cycle after the contest rather than a pulse :D
 
I started today, should be fun as it is a 20 person contest across a 4 boards. Not related but I found another source for resveratrol, where I can probably afford to do 2g of active a day, so I may go for a full cycle after the contest rather than a pulse :D

niiiiiice. should be gettin it soon btw :thumbsup:
 
Magickk said:
Would someone who runs a SDNG log PLEASE include some cardio into their workouts? The reason I stopped taking superdrol cycles, aside from the lethargy was that I just couldnt do cardio on it, stayed too pumped for it... From the sounds of things, SDNG will pretty much be the same thing...

I'd so love to run SDNG + Epi though, wow... I just finished up a 4 week epi solo cycle and it was incredible. Strength was nothing like superdrol but my body certainly loved it. And so far post cycle therapy has been a breeze...

givin all the hints and excerpts ive read so far i doubt this will give the debilitating pumps and back pumps the SDOG gave... i have seen it said it give great energy enough for a full workout and plenty of cardio following and he didnt complain of any such pumps... lemme see.... heres all my references.. ill let you decide for yourself :D

Originally Posted by Ken
The prohormone we used in SuperdrolNG is a PH that any entry level PH user can take. It is aimed at people who are in the "beginner/novice" market of prohormone use; for people who are walking into places like GNC and Vitamin Shoppe looking to use a PH for the first time, and still be very healthy about it. We aimed to be 100% DSHEA complient and health conscious of our consumers, and SuperdrolNG accomplishes both. This is by no means a PH that will deliver size gains equivalent to the original compound in superdrol, and we will not claim it to deliver such. SuperdrolNG is geared towards awesome increases in strength, stamina, some nice size gains to accompany it, and it has a great androgenic feel to it (I was always in an awesome mood while on it). It's a great beginner prohormone. It is also going to make a great stacker to any other cycle, and will serve to amplify the effects of other compounds. I loved it when I tested it. It is very safe, effective, and you can certainly feel it from the very first dose.

I have used prosteroids ranging from Ergomax LMG, superdrol, Max LMG, halodrol clones, Epistane, etc. Even as a rep for AX I was skeptical at first until I tested it, and I have to say that I am VERY impressed with the new SuperdrolNG formulation. SDNG is very clean and definitely not toxic, but you will still experience HPTA inhibition and androgenic sides. I've had some wicked workouts while on it, and I literally felt like I could keep going and going and going because the stamina increases are so phenomenol.

So, is it the same as the original superdrol? No. Does it work....YES No question about it. This is definitely not a "soft" product, and I am saying this as a very experienced prohormone user.

Originally Posted by Biceps
Ok, for those of you who wonder what goes on behind the closed doors of the inner circle, here's a peak from a post I made after my first serving of SuperdrolNG. This post was made on July 24th.

"I received a small sample bottle of Superdrol NG yesterday and I took 2 caps before heading off to the gym. WOW!! Talk about having a strong androgenic feel to it!! I woke up at 4am yesterday for work. My workout started at 2pm. I've had 70g of complex carbs and felt like **** before taking Superdrol NG. When that stuff kicked in about 1 hour later, it was awesome! My stamina was amazing, and the pumps were wicked! I literally had to force myself to leave the gym because I was over-due on my eating schedule. After 22 sets for back followed by 45 minutes of cardio on a high incline on a treadmill, I still felt like going back and repping out more sets....and I did with some very heavy weight!! And Superdrol NG has put me in a very good mood because usually I feel like a mac truck has hit me after lifting and cardio on so few calories. I feel great and very energetic!

I only have enough caps for 4 days, so I won't be keeping a log. And since I am 5 weeks out from a NPC bodybuilding show, I can't afford to go through a post cycle therapy on so few calories. So I will be pulsing Superdrol NG with 2 caps preworkout until I run out. I'll update in this thread with further experiences

It also makes cardio a breeze by giving me that "I can go on forever" feeling. Very good stuff "

So yes, you guys can pulse this for some incredible gains in strength, stamina and for that great androgenic feel.

Originally Posted by muscleguru21' date='Aug 9 2007, 02:15 PM' post='36688
ok i wish i was taking measurements cuz i am the same weight still but damn i feel good on this ****! strong alot of endurance and i have an extreme amount of muslce fullness. especially in my upperbody chest, arms shoulders. my legs arent getting soar even after my beatings that i put them through last night 16 sets of various workouts all dropsets. i will use this stuff over and over if i can
 
so i'm assuming this product will actually be sold? unlike 3AD which was hyped until half the bodybuilding community blew a load all over their screens, and then never hit the shelves. Just curious how you cant release something like that, but SDNG, which apparently is a PH to Test and 5ad, is being allowed. I would think a PH to test would be snagged by the FDA faaarr sooner than an adrenal hormone like 3ad. how did ya'all get away with it? - HTTC
 
3-AD ingredient got flagged in customs and then the FDA took over. It was a 1000:1 chance that any company takes when importing. In fact most companies will just import their ingredients as "L-Glutamine" when in fact it is Halodrol, etc. We dont do that. Adrenosterone one of the 3-AD ingredients got flagged because the customs agent read it as "Andro". That is the long story short.

In our years of importing this is the first time that has ever happened. Our legal team is high up in the FDA trying to get it sorted out still.

NOW Superdrol-NG..........Its in stock at our warehouse ready to go. We start shipping September 12th.
 
3-AD ingredient got flagged in customs and then the FDA took over. It was a 1000:1 chance that any company takes when importing. In fact most companies will just import their ingredients as "L-Glutamine" when in fact it is Halodrol, etc. We dont do that. Adrenosterone one of the 3-AD ingredients got flagged because the customs agent read it as "Andro". That is the long story short.

In our years of importing this is the first time that has ever happened. Our legal team is high up in the FDA trying to get it sorted out still.

NOW Superdrol-NG..........Its in stock at our warehouse ready to go. We start shipping September 12th.

5-AD huh?

maybe PA will just pop by on 10th sep..is it mentioned 5-AD on da box?

do you foresee PA coming in and asking you to change that 5-AD because of a trademark he has on 1-AD, 4-AD..
 
They are being sued right now for using and knowingly filing for our 3-AD name trade name that was being heavily marketed nationwide. So we would not give an F who pops in and says what. I am not going to get into trademark law or our case. BUT I will say this. Our legal team took the case on a contingency of 30%. ANYONE that is familiar with practicing law knows that shows the legal team has a high confidence in winning the settlement (which they get a portion of). And its not a small settlement for the damages we have incurred. Its in the court system as of today and public record.

The trademark issue also had nothing to do with why it was held up. Just more internet rumors, derogatory statements, nonfactual lies, and slander. Thats another case though that we are about to file this week :) Good times. We are so tired of this crap that if we have to spend $250,000 over the next year to win the cases we will.

You can wish us luck but we don't really need it :)
 
In that case, I'll wish you much non-needed luck! :thumbsup:
 
just curious. i know SDNG is a very clen ph, and wont give people 12 pounds lean mass in a cycle, but how many lean mass we can expect? 5 pounds in six weeks?
thans AX..
 
SD + SDNG = too much

As for mass gains, not enough info out yet. Give it about 3 weeks and try for yourself! ;) :thumbsup:
 
I have not. In fact I have not ran a methyl in two years. I was taking SDNG pre-workout and it was phenomenal. With Epi I should put on some nice size to go with the SDNG strength and pumps.

Hey Big Smith I'm about to run the same Epi + SDNG stack. How did you dose and what are your thoughts on the stack looking back??
 
It is one of the best stacks I have ran in my life.

I ran it like this.

Week 1-2

30mg epi (10mg 3X day)
4 Caps SDNG day (2 pre-workout.

Week 3-4
40mg epi (10mg 4X day)
3 caps SDNG day (1 morning, 2 pre-workout)
 
It is one of the best stacks I have ran in my life.

I ran it like this.

Week 1-2

30mg epi (10mg 3X day)
4 Caps SDNG day (2 pre-workout.

Week 3-4
40mg epi (10mg 4X day)
3 caps SDNG day (1 morning, 2 pre-workout)


I'm thinking of doing 20-30-40-40 of epi but keeping the SDNG at 3/day throughout. PCT will be Serm and Mass Fx and Leviathan Reloaded all stacked.

Sound good?
 
It is one of the best stacks I have ran in my life.

I ran it like this.

Week 1-2

30mg epi (10mg 3X day)
4 Caps SDNG day (2 pre-workout.

Week 3-4
40mg epi (10mg 4X day)
3 caps SDNG day (1 morning, 2 pre-workout)

could you say why it was best stacks ever?

just alittle explaination, sorry if i missed it above i didnt look
 
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