SARMS versus Pro-Hormones and Pro Steroids
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junkyarddogzz
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isn't that an herbal supplement.
jbryand101b
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i use sarm x because it's designed for maximum human performance, and made in a real lab.
Tomahawk88
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With lab coats and everything! :silly:
mooch2321
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and bunsen burners?
Tomahawk88
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No they were too worried about fires bc of what Smokie the Bear told them about forrest fires.
junkyarddogzz
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but its an herbal supp right? Im confused? Its not a sarm at all.
Tomahawk88
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Man u havent heard about SARM X!? U have to join the party! :fest30:
wontstop985
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Bro, Sarm-X just increased my bench press 40 lb in 2 weeks! True story.
Bionic
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jbryand101b
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sarm x is a selective androgen receptor modulator x, the x is for cross training, it increases your lifts, while letting you increase your endurance at the same time.
junkyarddogzz
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wow, yall are trying to push pass this off as a real sarm????? Lol.
There haven't been any approved for humans yet. Lame marketing. The research chems are the only real sarms out at this time.
tim1985
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What does the RC company you work for give you too spam this board about SARMS like you do? Just wondering
mooch2321
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what do you mean, its not a real sarm? Victor Martinez is a standup guy, just because he got busted for selling steroids doesnt mean he would lie about a product. Shame on you, is it because he latino? do you think hes going to steal your hubcaps or something? SARM X....FTW!!!
jbryand101b
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It must be because victor is latino, but i seriously doubt he is here illegally junk.
SARMX is proven to build muscle without the side effects of anabolics, just look at victor, you dont think he'd endorse it if it wasn't legit.
sarm x for maximum growth, with Zero sides
sirlordford
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Really?
mooch2321
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yup...says it right on the bottle
wontstop985
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Sarm-x actually stole the rims off my cars and it's sitting on blocks now. It also made me gain 20lb of rock hard muscle and pushed my bench from 320 up to 405. So it was worth it. Gotta go catch the bus - sarm-x!
jbryand101b
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of course, look at my rep, you know i can be trusted.
jbryand101b
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sarm x was so strong, it blew a hole in my radiator, and busted my manifold gasket. but I put on 10lbs of lean mass, and didn't need a pct.
sirlordford
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Sarm X made Chuck Norris even tougher, which according to physics was impossible.
jbryand101b
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dayum, i didn't know that, better stock up before it's banned.:drive:
dpfisher
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The secret to avoiding vision sides is put the SARMs in your butt. Because it's farther from the eyes.
hardknock
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I need access to the one test that you viewed and any other info specific. If you have something scholarly that is.
Matttehman
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Lol, reminds me of that joker awhile back who claimed to be some poor innocent soul who was taking advice from internet forums on how to pin. So he injected into his ring. :shocked:
He then went on to talk about how he couldn't believe guys did this all the time, and "it hurts to sit", and " I can't even take a dump because it is swollen".
stankyleg
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freakin gross
worm
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Man that seriously made me lol. Injected into his ring. Hahahahaha
jbryand101b
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Abstract
Non-steroidal and tissue-selective anabolic agents such as selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) represent a promising class of therapeutics for the treatment of various diseases such as sarcopenia or cancer cachexia. Advanced compounds of SARMs are based on an arylpropionamide-derived structure and leading drug candidates have successfully completed phase-II-clinical trials. Although none of these therapeutics have been approved, their performance-enhancing qualities and the black-market availability of these products makes them a viable target for misuse in the athletic community. In 2008, SARMs were added to the Prohibited List established by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). That SARMs are the subject of misuse even without clinical approval was proved for the first time by the detection of the drug candidate Andarine (also referred to as S-4, S-3-(4-acetylamino-phenoxy)-2-hydroxy-2-methyl-N-(4-nitro-3-trifluoromethyl-phenyl)-propionamide), advertised, sold and supplied via the Internet. The oily liquids, declared as green tea extracts and face moisturizer, were assayed using state-of-the-art analytical procedures and S-4 was found at concentrations of approximately 150 mg/mL. The authenticity of the product was demonstrated in comparison to reference material by liquid chromatography, high resolution/high accuracy (tandem) mass spectrometry using positive and negative electrospray ionization, and comparison to reference material. Moreover, an impurity resulting from poor product purification was detected, accounting for approximately 10% of S-4. This consisted of 2-hydroxy-2-methyl-N-(4-nitro-3-trifluoromethyl-phenyl)-3-(4-nitro-3-trifluoromethyl-phenylamino)-propionamide. (and people wonder why they have vision sides.)
The ease of purchasing non-approved drug candidates that could potentially increase athletic performance demonstrates the need to operate proactively in the continued fight against doping. The early inclusion of emerging drugs into routine sports drug testing procedures is a key element of preventive doping research, limiting the options for cheating athletes who aim to undermine the doping control system. Copyright © 2009 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
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Mario Thevis was prompted by the web discussions to go in search of websites claiming to sell S4. He came across ***Products, which recently started selling S4. For research purposes, not for human consumption, we should add here.
The bottles, Thevis writes in Drug Testing & Analysis, contain 30 ml of an oily fluid. They are in a box with words with something like 'face moisturizer and green tea extract' on the packaging. One ml of the substance contains 150 mg S4, according to Thevis. This is strange. All the products we know of contain only 50mg/ml. Looks like a friendly Chinese bulk supplier was giving discount on S4.
The product that Thevis tested was not pure. Each ml also contained 15 mg of a compound that is produced when S4 is synthesised, and which the manufacturer should have purified out of the preparation. The structural formula of the contaminant is shown here below.
For Thevis this is evidence that this S4 does not come from a legally operating company. And that S4 is used by chemical athletes. "The present report demonstrates once more that the misuse of therapeutics in early or advanced clinical trials by athletes cannot be dismissed, especially when anecdotal evidence for the misuse of S4 is frequently discussed in respective Internet-based chat rooms", Thevis concludes.
Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but *** Products has published a lab analysis on its website, which states that *** Products’ Liquid S4 does not contain contaminants.
the GUNSHOW
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hmmmmmm 160$ for a serm or 30$ for a PH hmmmmmmm
junkyarddogzz
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SARMS not SERM bro
jbryand101b
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I slipped my wife sarm x and her tits grew 2 cup sizes.
Aiolias
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Guys forgive my ignorance but I'm a newbie 
So Sarm is much better than PH ?
I can stack with a PH or it's better using alone because I got some fresh bottles of SuS 500 and Androbol and I don't wish throw in the garbage
11 pounds , congratulations and how long was your cycle ?
So Sarm is much better than PH ?
I can stack with a PH or it's better using alone because I got some fresh bottles of SuS 500 and Androbol and I don't wish throw in the garbage
11 pounds , congratulations and how long was your cycle ?
jbryand101b
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forget about sarms like s4, there is too much research needed to be done before using, only a dumb ass would use something like this without knowing all the facts.
stick with the stuff victor martinez uses, sarm x. it's the only proven product to be legit. just look at victor.
stick with the stuff victor martinez uses, sarm x. it's the only proven product to be legit. just look at victor.
srykerman
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this thread is getting stupid. we are here to discuss pos. and neg. of all compounds and we have turned this into a bashing/sarchastic forum. If you think for one minute that you "ALL" are not lab rats to some degree when taking any compound you are truley fooling yourself. thats the reason we are here. just say what you have to say about the topic pos. or neg. and let others state theirs without feeling like they are ignorant. all the "NOOBS ARE COMING IN HERE AND ARE GETTING CONFUSED BY EVERYONES SARCHASM!!!!!!!!" please lets be professional. The posts of scientific research are the best to guide us to make the right decisions and the experiences of all the seasoned veterans. you guys who have been here the longest have a great rep for your wisdom and experience. thats a big responsibility. stay strong guys and get big!!!!!!
the GUNSHOW
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ahh my bad bro I ment to say SARM not SERM
wontstop985
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Your spelling is sarcastic.
Sarm-x gave my girlfriend an orgasm while I benched 550. Think about that.
jbryand101b
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I flexed my bi's while on sarm x and my wife creamed her pants.
sarm x for life.:biglaugh:
mooch2321
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jbryand101b
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:FUfinger: :sucks: :silly: :rofl:
dpfisher
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Yeah, I honestly made the effort to find a place to get some other than the site he always talks about just because of this guy. Nobody bother to PM me asking about it, it's gone now anyway.
S4 was ok as a bridge into a cycle but I would honestly say it's not worth it as opposed to just running a more serious cycle. Also anyone who runs this in PCT is just plain ignorant, IMO
sethroberts
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FYI - I theorized that it may contain clomid due to the vision problems and the fact that such high doses were being used - I had not used it at the time. Someone else pointed out an article from last year showing that it does in fact contain S-4 at very high doses compared to those being used in the clinic.
In any case I was wrong - I don't claim to know everything or be correct all the time.
In any case I was wrong - I don't claim to know everything or be correct all the time.
srykerman
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what cycle did you bridge to or from?
dpfisher
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1,4AD 6 week with Decavol(this is worthless IMO) first 4 weeks. Straight up epi would have been more productive as far as muscle but I was trying to heal tendons. The S4 didn't seem to help with that either, just a mild recomp effect.