yates84
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Looks good bro, that should treat you nice
SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide
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Looks good bro, that should treat you nice
BamBam0319
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YES!!!
HardB0iled
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strickamania
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About 15 days into Olympus UK cardarine and ostarine stack. Besides very mild acne which lasted 2 days I am only down one pound and that's after eating 1500 calories a day for the last two weeks. I believe that these may just be prohormones after all 
BamBam0319
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About 15 days into Olympus UK cardarine and ostarine stack. Besides very mild acne which lasted 2 days I am only down one pound and that's after eating 1500 calories a day for the last two weeks. I believe that these may just be prohormones after all
Were you hoping for a miracle pill?
HardB0iled
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About 15 days into Olympus UK cardarine and ostarine stack. Besides very mild acne which lasted 2 days I am only down one pound and that's after eating 1500 calories a day for the last two weeks. I believe that these may just be prohormones after all
In that case, feel free to send your remaining inventory to me.
BamBam0319
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Right? Like damn bruh I'll take that off your hands!
fro60ol
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About 15 days into Olympus UK cardarine and ostarine stack. Besides very mild acne which lasted 2 days I am only down one pound and that's after eating 1500 calories a day for the last two weeks. I believe that these may just be prohormones after all
Keep plugging away osta takes 2 weeks or so just to start working..
liftingamber12
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This...the Osta is just starting to build in your system. They don't work over night.
strickamania
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Thanks, I'll give it a bit longer. And you have to forgive me for being cautious, every other site either praises or bashes capped sarms and OL
BamBam0319
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I'd advise not believing what you read from evolutionary, elite fitness, or any site or forum ran by those clowns
bighulksmash
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^^^ 100% fact USDA and FDA approved!
Bigdumogre
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I work for a supplement company and I order OL products so that speaks volumes
strickamania
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Have you tried the cardarine or osta? If so, which did you prefer and for what reason (s)
jmyers
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Both are good. Stacked together is even better
fro60ol
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Give it at least 4 weeks.... You won't be disappointed... Getting ready to start osta myself
cheeky1
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I've tried all kinds & brands, with OL Osta being my first SARM. It was awesome, took 2 weeks to really take effect but at 20 then 25mg it really took off
I also run a supp shop, non-affiliated, and BSL, EPG & OL are my go to brands for such goodies.
You'll also get nothing but forthright answers from the OL reps on here, so don't be scared to ask Q's about their products.
yates84
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Definitely not a bust. I don't think it directly helps with fat loss but the endurance from carderine is real. Carderine can also positively impact lipid values and reduce bp ( this varies from user to user hence the word "may" )
cheeky1
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Back on MK-677 now. Previously ran MK Ultra at 20mg then 30mg.
Running OL Ghar1ne at 10mg initially. Last time I made a pig of myself & suffered the consequences first night at 20mg, this time around at 10mg no insomnia, sweats, anxiety, ravenous hunger. Much better start! :13:
Running OL Ghar1ne at 10mg initially. Last time I made a pig of myself & suffered the consequences first night at 20mg, this time around at 10mg no insomnia, sweats, anxiety, ravenous hunger. Much better start! :13:
sanmarino
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Cardarine is not a wonder pill. Like yates says, it improves the endurance.
More indurance = more possible kcal may burned = aiming for higher kcal deficite
To say it in as less words as possbile: GW regualtes the fat metabolism, the Glucose uptake in skeletal muscle and an increases the muscle mass (mice could increase muscle mass, the most user "only" notice the strong anti-catabolic effect). The anti-catabolic is indeed strong enough to aim for a nice kcal deficite.
While taking GW, the body prefers under activation by GW-501516 a fat burning effect. The body rather uses the fat instead of carbohydrates and muscle protein.
Officially, GW is not researched anymore. But in my personal opinion, this is only an "official" thing. In the secret GW is going to be researched more for sure! Imagine the possibilities for soldiers or other performance enhaning areas. It's more interesting for the pharma sector to sell damaging and full of side effects Statines for cholesterol improvements, instead of giving GW.
In my personal experience, GW imporoved HDL, LDL and triglycerides but not in that high range like in obese people in the studies (with 10mg/ed GW, and 2.5mg/ed in ill people).
I hope you understand the action of GW - in three sentences - more.
Jstrong20
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About 15 days into Olympus UK cardarine and ostarine stack. Besides very mild acne which lasted 2 days I am only down one pound and that's after eating 1500 calories a day for the last two weeks. I believe that these may just be prohormones after all
Could be holding some water. It seems to happen sometimes when I cut calories really low. One day nothing and next your down a few lbs.
cubs1987
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Are you dosing the Gh prebed? Just started my osta and epi-andro stack and contemplating throwing this in as well... Thoughts?
cheeky1
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Yes, I have only ever used it within an hour of going to bed. I also take 400mcg of hup-a in the morn & same at night, in a neuro performance product.
MK - if you can get it then i'd run it. I missed being off it, but wanted to run LGD solo to get a more accurate gauge of it's efficacy on me.
That's a good, lean, dry stack, i'd make the most of strengthening tissues with that combo + MK, rather than go for outright size. Save that for the next cycle :sly:
Edit: the product is a 400mcg dose, which I split into 2, so 200mcg of hup morn & same night.
MK - if you can get it then i'd run it. I missed being off it, but wanted to run LGD solo to get a more accurate gauge of it's efficacy on me.
That's a good, lean, dry stack, i'd make the most of strengthening tissues with that combo + MK, rather than go for outright size. Save that for the next cycle :sly:
Edit: the product is a 400mcg dose, which I split into 2, so 200mcg of hup morn & same night.
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Shin Sprints
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Hi, one week left of 10 week Osta @20mg with last 4 weeks of RAD thrown in (8mg for 2 weeks, 12mg for second 2 weeks).
So will be starting PCT Friday week. I have Clomid, Super PCT and Epic Unleashed, thinking of starting the Epic this Friday so I have a week overlap.
Basically I was wondering if I could throw anything else into PCT to help keep my strength. I have ABE, C20, Cista.
Thanks.
So will be starting PCT Friday week. I have Clomid, Super PCT and Epic Unleashed, thinking of starting the Epic this Friday so I have a week overlap.
Basically I was wondering if I could throw anything else into PCT to help keep my strength. I have ABE, C20, Cista.
Thanks.
GreenMachineX
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How was the cycle?
I would also suggest the new Evomuse Testruction product. Looks awesome. I've ordered 2 bottles.
Shin Sprints
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Noticeable leaning in first 4-6 weeks of Osta with strength increases. Bf around 10%, noticeable around kidney area.
Rad, hard to say, not convinced by it but maybe 12mg is where it is tat after trying 8mg for 2 weeks. Once I run for another 10 days I will be better able to assess the Rad.
On Rad though as I am eating under maintenance I might be short changing it. Appetite seems to have increased a bit on Rad so cals up about 200 a day on what I was at when I added it to cycle.
Sides are minimal based on "feeling", no lethargy, no test base, libido may be down a bit but not crushed, likely some suppression too but not as bad I expected. This is not based on blood work only on how I feel and I know that is not the whole picture which is why I am mentioning "feel".
Ostar1ne definitely does work. Rad, will leave till cycle end to fully assess.
Rad, hard to say, not convinced by it but maybe 12mg is where it is tat after trying 8mg for 2 weeks. Once I run for another 10 days I will be better able to assess the Rad.
On Rad though as I am eating under maintenance I might be short changing it. Appetite seems to have increased a bit on Rad so cals up about 200 a day on what I was at when I added it to cycle.
Sides are minimal based on "feeling", no lethargy, no test base, libido may be down a bit but not crushed, likely some suppression too but not as bad I expected. This is not based on blood work only on how I feel and I know that is not the whole picture which is why I am mentioning "feel".
Ostar1ne definitely does work. Rad, will leave till cycle end to fully assess.
cheeky1
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Good feedback, thanks for sharing :bigok:
Shin Sprints
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No probs!
liftingamber12
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RAD will definitely increase appetite. I was on it for 5 weeks & it had me ravenous the first 4 weeks. Appetite seemed to taper off quite a bit in week 5 though. The nutrient partitioning it offers is crazy though. So, it's not necessary a bad thing that you have upped your cals some.
NoAddedHmones
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You have used RAD?? Wow.
liftingamber12
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Yes, with Osta. I dropped the RAD on Monday & have 2.5 weeks left on Osta.
GreenMachineX
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I don't think it does; pretty sure ostarine messes with E2 more than ligandrol.
anab0lix
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Hmm...
first post says this under the LGD part.
"Due to the possibility of high estrogen sides while using LGD, it is recommended that you have an AI, like Exemestane, on hand."
liftingamber12
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"Possibility" being the key word here. Anything that occupies the androgen receptor CAN POSSIBLY cause high estrogen sides. yates84 was just trying to make sure everyone has their bases covered before jumping on these products.
BamBam0319
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This.
It's good to have an AI like exemestane on hand for anything hormonal you're running; AAS, PH/DS, SARMs.
anab0lix
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But as his cycle layout states, would running an AI be ok?
Wouldn't want to squash my estrogen on a possibly total non-aromatizing compound.
liftingamber12
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It's better to not use an AI on cycle, if it's not needed. On hand doesn't necessarily mean to use it, but it's better to have in your stash IN CASE high estrogen sides occur.
anab0lix
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I'm no noob to cycling just SARMs. So the principals are pretty much the same, yes?
Shin Sprints
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I have kept carbs pretty stable, extra calories have mainly come from bumping protein.
Actually I got my calcs wrong, I am on week 4 of Rad, will be running it 5 weeks in total. No lethargy.
liftingamber12
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Yes. The main difference is SARM's are selective, where they only attach & active receptors in bone & muscle tissue.
I found that bumping my carbs kept the hunger satisfied & the RAD made great use of them! I could carb load for 2-3 days & the scales wouldn't even budge, but I'd look a lot fuller muscle wise!!
BamBam0319
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Second that. Following along with YatesWifey04's progress as well as others' success with the compound has made me really look forward to running it as well.
liftingamber12
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Shin Sprints
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I up carbs on the weekend and calories in general so during the week I am hitting about 2500 a day, then in weekend calories go up somewhere like 3500, maybe 4000. Trying to see if how that works. Scale up about 1.5lbs over course of the 4 weeks on Rad but was down about 2-3lbs from the Osta prior to stacking. So net weight loss is about 1.5lbs over the 9 weeks. No change in size but definitely leaner and would say shoulders and upper back look "bigger". Increased vascularity over the run but I am not crazy vascular anyway so not like I have huge veins popping.
yates84
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Epic unleashed would be my choice if I had to pick one. I prefer laxogenin as a transdermal, much better result due to better absorption. Epic unleashed caps are just as strong as the td and I actually prefer epic in cap form.