Sarm + Serm cycle; I highly recommend; wondering if this would work on sme prohormones

DREADLORD said:
While it's true that the person rightly named "Furious" started with the ad hominems, there is no denying that the condescension began with you, sir. While doing a 130kg bench press might be child's play for you, deriding the sense of achievement someone might have when doing it for the first time is a tad rude, imo. nevertheless, I did find your take on the use of enclomiphene while taking test quite belligerent. I mean, if one were to believe the numbers shown by Furious, how can we deny that Enclomiphene did prevent the total shutdown of endogenous Test production?

Given the terrible risk of long-term, even permanent loss of production, is it really that terrible an idea to use Enclomiphene along with the Test? Especially since this is enclo and not clomid? That said, I'm totally with you on the SARM usage.
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I wasn’t condescending, I just told him that 130kg is not that heavy and he can do that natty. Also, Enclo/Clomid is actually good by itself, but they won’t prevent shutdown on a cycle. OP’s “study” was done over 4 weeks and the sarm/oral steroid already affected the Test level negatively, another 4 weeks would shown even more decline in Test level. Lastly, OP never did Enclo with Test.
 
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BBiceps said:
I wasn’t condescending, I just told him that 130kg is not that heavy and he can do that natty. Also, Enclo/Clomid is actually good by itself, but they won’t prevent shutdown on a cycle. OP’s “study” was done over 4 weeks and the sarm/oral steroid already affected the Test level negatively, another 4 weeks would shown even more decline in Test level. Lastly, OP never did Enclo with Test.
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Once again, 130kg may not be that heavy for someone but as mentioned by the OP, he was elated by the quick increase in strength. Why must his progression be natty for a longer period of time? Btw comparing Enclo and Clomi as equally good is something I cannot agree with. The zuclo is a disaster. I agree that the SARM did reduce Test and continued use would lead to further declines. I don't comprehend the relevance though. The OP did not use Test and wanted to use SARM. About not preventing a shutdown, that would depend on the amount of gear and duration, don't you think?
 
DREADLORD said:
Once again, 130kg may not be that heavy for someone but as mentioned by the OP, he was elated by the quick increase in strength. Why must his progression be natty for a longer period of time? Btw comparing Enclo and Clomi as equally good is something I cannot agree with. The zuclo is a disaster. I agree that the SARM did reduce Test and continued use would lead to further declines. I don't comprehend the relevance though. The OP did not use Test and wanted to use SARM. About not preventing a shutdown, that would depend on the amount of gear and duration, don't you think?
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Sure, 130kg is heavy but not in the context of anyone’s bench press. I never tried to make him feel less, I even said it’s good, it’s just not that heavy and something he could have done without PED’s. Did his PED’s help him get it, I’m sure they did, I never said that they didn’t, just that his Enclo will not keep him from shutting down.

I disagree, I have had great success with Clomid, to me Clomid is great.

I really don’t know what you’re talking about. I told OP that it’s known that Enclo/Clomid does not keep you from shutting down while taking steroids/sarms. We know this because numerous people have tried it, including myself. If OP or others still want to try it, go ahead, have fun, he’s not the first and won’t be the last.

You can disagree with me as much as you want, I don’t care, I am right, and you know it.
 
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BBiceps said:
Sure, 130kg is heavy but not in the context of anyone’s bench press. I never tried to make him feel less, I even said it’s good, it’s just not that heavy and something he could have done without PED’s. Did his PED’s help him get it, I’m sure they did, I never said that they didn’t, just that his Enclo will not keep him from shutting down.

I disagree, I have had great success with Clomid, to me Clomid is great.

I really don’t know what you’re talking about. I told OP that it’s known that Enclo/Clomid does not keep you from shutting down while taking steroids/sarms. We know this because numerous people have tried it, including myself. If OP or others still want to try it, go ahead, have fun, he’s not the first and won’t be the last.

You can disagree with me as much as you want, I don’t care, I am right, and you know it.
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nope, you're wrong as much as you are gay
 
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