S1+ in da heezy!!

T-Bone said:
EasyEJL it would not be enough surface area. You see it depends on the concentration of the transdermal solution. To get better absorbtion, you want to spread it out as much as possible, not just slather it on. Less concentrated spread out more evenly = better absorbtion. You could have a more concentrated solution and be able to apply less, but you are much better having something less concentrated because the more concentrated the more likely it is to "crash". Still though, just the tops of your feet aren't gonna have enough surface area to apply enough of a dosage to really do anything. You could do one pump on each foot, twice a day and that just won't be enough.
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Yeah, I just have seen rodja post a number of times about using the tops of his feet, and wanted to know where else he was applying with it, if anywhere.
 
Tops of feet are a great place to apply if you're in frequent contact with women/children because......who touches the tops of your feet (perverts!)?
 
thesinner said:
Tops of feet are a great place to apply if you're in frequent contact with women/children because......who touches the tops of your feet (perverts!)?
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but is t-bone correct that its not enough area? it would be just for the 4-ad, i've got the 1-t in thp ether caps.
 
depends on how much you're adding (sorta).

With regards to surface area, more is always gonna be better.

Let's pretend you're some building. The EasyEJL Tower. People trying to get inside are 4-AD. There's about a million people waiting to get in (EasyEJL Tower is the bee's knees or somethin'). The people trying to get inside are (like all people) impatient. After a while, they will eventually give up and leave.

So let's pretend you only have one door open. 4-AD isn't going to get in at a very fast rate (gonna get all backed up), and a lot of it is going end up being washed off or rubbed off on something later in the day.

But let's say we open up 4 door. The rate the people get into the building quadruples.
 
There will be too much "goo" for just the tops of your feet. You want to spread it out over more surface(doors, as Sinner is saying). Say 1ML= 25 mg. You want to take in 400mg a day. Well then you would have to apply...well 25 * 16 = 400. So that would mean 4 ML on each foot twice per day. That is a lot of liquid to be absorbed over a very small area.
 
T-Bone said:
EasyEJL it would not be enough surface area. You see it depends on the concentration of the transdermal solution. To get better absorbtion, you want to spread it out as much as possible, not just slather it on. Less concentrated spread out more evenly = better absorbtion. You could have a more concentrated solution and be able to apply less, but you are much better having something less concentrated because the more concentrated the more likely it is to "crash". Still though, just the tops of your feet aren't gonna have enough surface area to apply enough of a dosage to really do anything. You could do one pump on each foot, twice a day and that just won't be enough.
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im still debating on what im going to run for my next cycle but id like to keep this thread bumped as there is alot of good info in here.

So lets say i get down to using this and the solution is crashed, how do you put it back together?
 
Put the bottle in a pot of hot water for a bit, shake, and put it in hot water again, repeat til its back in solution.
 
1-t/4-ad is by far one of THE most successful and pleasant cycle I have ever run. Perfect balance of strength, hardness, mood, well-being and libido increase (from the 4-AD).
 
yeah, i did it lol....

well kind of. i just did 2 full squirts on each arm. surprised the pump still works. i know thats not a good dose but not to sure about going all the way. My gf is in vegas for awhile and i havent seen her in a good minute so when she gets back to the rock i wanna be able to go like a mad man and most importantly get my nut off haha. problems with me and cycles has not been the abilty to perform, just the ability to finish. i must say this is the #1 reason i try to have a good amount of off time.

Easy, i believe so, im sitting on two bottles....and no, dont pm me about it guys im not giving it up :lol: at least not for cheap!
 
pistonpump said:
yeah, i did it lol....

well kind of. i just did 2 full squirts on each arm. surprised the pump still works. i know thats not a good dose but not to sure about going all the way. My gf is in vegas for awhile and i havent seen her in a good minute so when she gets back to the rock i wanna be able to go like a mad man and most importantly get my nut off haha. problems with me and cycles has not been the abilty to perform, just the ability to finish. i must say this is the #1 reason i try to have a good amount of off time.

Easy, i believe so, im sitting on two bottles....and no, dont pm me about it guys im not giving it up :lol: at least not for cheap!
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I've got the same prob dude, it sucks.
 
i wanna do the epi but now i feel like getting huge and going on full bore again....

question: if i workout after i wake up and have a meal then when should i apply the s1+ considering you dont want to sweat to much after the application. would it be better for me to wake up, eat, workout, shower, then apply?

is there any prewo boost to it?
 
pistonpump said:
i wanna do the epi but now i feel like getting huge and going on full bore again....

question: if i workout after i wake up and have a meal then when should i apply the s1+ considering you dont want to sweat to much after the application. would it be better for me to wake up, eat, workout, shower, then apply?

is there any prewo boost to it?
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There is a slight preworkout boost, but not enough to lose significant actives through sweat.

Apply after your shower.
 
dsade said:
There is a slight preworkout boost, but not enough to lose significant actives through sweat.

Apply after your shower.
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wait im not sure i understand what you mean with the underlined... do you mean its not worth it to lose actives through sweat or do you mean the actives wont be lost through sweat?

fyi, i did 8 squirts today so i guess im gonna go with it. i applied to forearms and feet. Im gonna remember to put on underwear before i apply, just in case. i think i got a little bit on my sack :jaw: and that was interesting! (dont want to exp anymore of that)

so you say libido is fine with this dsade, at least for you?
 
pistonpump said:
wait im not sure i understand what you mean with the underlined... do you mean its not worth it to lose actives through sweat or do you mean the actives wont be lost through sweat?

fyi, i did 8 squirts today so i guess im gonna go with it. i applied to forearms and feet. Im gonna remember to put on underwear before i apply, just in case. i think i got a little bit on my sack :jaw: and that was interesting! (dont want to exp anymore of that)

so you say libido is fine with this dsade, at least for you?
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Libido is way up.

re- sweat. it's not worth losing a bunch of actives (which are washed away with sweat) for a slight preworkout boost.
 
pistonpump said:
wait im not sure i understand what you mean with the underlined... do you mean its not worth it to lose actives through sweat or do you mean the actives wont be lost through sweat?

fyi, i did 8 squirts today so i guess im gonna go with it. i applied to forearms and feet. Im gonna remember to put on underwear before i apply, just in case. i think i got a little bit on my sack :jaw: and that was interesting! (dont want to exp anymore of that)

so you say libido is fine with this dsade, at least for you?
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Log? With pics(haha)?
 
I miss my 1T/4AD so much. No libido crash, crazy pumps and strength, and quality LBM. Ahhhh, those were the days.
 
Rodja said:
I miss my 1T/4AD so much. No libido crash, crazy pumps and strength, and quality LBM. Ahhhh, those were the days.
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by no libido crash do you mean on cycle or in pct or both?

im doing 6ml (roughly 8 squirts) once a day right now.

for those that have run it what did you dose it at.
 
pistonpump said:
if anyone has some they are not going to part with it, at least not for cheap.

rodja did you see my question above?
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I went with 250:400 1T:4AD. I wish that I could get my hands on some more of these raws. They're a pain sometimes, but the results speak for themselves.
 
Rodja said:
I went with 250:400 1T:4AD. I wish that I could get my hands on some more of these raws. They're a pain sometimes, but the results speak for themselves.
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ive been having a hard time finding the original dosing for it, the amount of 1t 4ad per however many squirts..

u mention no libido crash earlier.....did you mean in pct you kept libido or did you mean on cycle you kept libido, or both?
 
pistonpump said:
ive been having a hard time finding the original dosing for it, the amount of 1t 4ad per however many squirts..

u mention no libido crash earlier.....did you mean in pct you kept libido or did you mean on cycle you kept libido, or both?
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Super ONE+ = 6g of 1-test and 9.375g of 4AD.

I am unsure of the bottle pump for this dosing schedule but it has approximately .0625mg/ml

It's approximately a 40/60 ratio - 200mg/300mg - 400mg/600mg
 
B5150 said:
Super ONE+ = 6g of 1-test and 9.375g of 4AD.

I am unsure of the bottle pump for this dosing schedule but it has approximately .0625mg/ml

It's approximately a 40/60 ratio - 200mg/300mg - 400mg/600mg
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thanks b.

so if im doing 6ml (8 squirts) x .0625mg/ml = .375mg total??? that doesnt look right...:think:

easy, i am away of that so i take it you still get a libido crash in PCT too, much like every other steroid cycle does....i was hoping he meant no crash in PCT.... oh wells.
 
pistonpump said:
thanks b.

so if im doing 6ml (8 squirts) x .0625mg/ml = .375mg total??? that doesnt look right...:think:

easy, i am away of that so i take it you still get a libido crash in PCT too, much like every other steroid cycle does....i was hoping he meant no crash in PCT.... oh wells.
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I think there is a slight unit error.

8 ounces = 240ml.

15 grams (give or take) /240 = .0625 GRAMS (or 62.5 mg) per ml.
 
B5150 said:
it has approximately .0625mg/ml
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pistonpump said:
thanks b.

so if im doing 6ml (8 squirts) x .0625mg/ml = .375mg total??? that doesnt look right...
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dsade said:
15 grams (give or take) /240 = .0625 GRAMS (or 62.5 mg) per ml.
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It looks like we are all in agreement on 62.5mg/ml...or did I miss something?

PP, what doesn't look right?

I've dosed it as high as 400mg 1T/600mg 4AD which requires 8ml x 2 for 16ml/d and it will only last 15 days - you need two bottle for a 30 day cycle at the high end dosing. You could likely get by with less but the only way one bottle lasts for 30 days is at 200mg/400mg which is the low end dosing.

I'll admit that 8ml x 2/d is a lot of volume of solution and why I don't go that route anymore.
 
B5150 said:
It looks like we are all in agreement on 62.5mg/ml...or did I miss something?

PP, what doesn't look right?

I've dosed it as high as 400mg 1T/600mg 4AD which requires 8ml x 2 for 16ml/d and it will only last 15 days - you need two bottle for a 30 day cycle at the high end dosing. You could likely get by with less but the only way one bottle lasts for 30 days is at 200mg/400mg which is the low end dosing.

I'll admit that 8ml x 2/d is a lot of volume of solution and why I don't go that route anymore.
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Your quote = .0625mg/ml. Should be .0625 g/ml.

No big deal, just unit inaccuracy. Making sure the boy doesn't overdose. :)
 
EasyEJL said:
cryogenic even
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I thought Cryogenesis was what you got if you didn't take an aromatase inhibitor, or used too high a dose of clomid for PCT.
 
Cryogenesis is what children who do not listen to their father experience.

Cryogenisis - the process of or bringing about the act of crying, usually brought about by a swift, and in some cases, rapid and repetitive, slap up-side the head.

Disclaimer - This is not to be mistaken for tough love.
 
B5150 said:
Cryogenisis - the process of or bringing about the act of crying, usually brought about by a swift, and in some cases, rapid and repetitive, slap up-side the head.
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Sounds like my sex life.
 
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