rize (new driven sports preworkout)

nikosktm

nikosktm

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hi guys does anyone got any info about the new DS's pre workout???? some say that will be very stim strong ,but i bet that it will be not so good as the old craze .... :p
 
From Driven Sports:
What is RIZE™?

First things first. RIZE™ is not Craze®, nor is it meant to feel or act like Craze®.

It’s also not a Frenzy™ replacement; it’s a different feel. This is an aggressive stimulant formula designed to last around 4-5 hours to fuel your workouts. This is not a study-aid.

RIZE™ is the latest addition to your catalog of energy formulas that allows you to design your cycling routines based on your daily needs and not your purchases. You don’t have to work your way through your latest energy purchase before embarking on the next. You can build up an inventory of various formulas giving you a unique opportunity to pick the style of energy you’re looking for purely for that day.

Need long-lasting? Need something short and fast? We got you covered.

Be sure you are following us for updates and release dates.
 
Okay some time ago they said they were going to be vindicated in the craze fiasco. Rise is for Europe. But after that they posted something on instagram and the container is the same as craze can you imagine if they brought back og craze. But if they did would the new price be $300 lol.
 
so will be one version for europe (rize) and another version for usa??? pfff where is this company.. remember before 5 -6 years it was very popular with AX TZ LX ,now noone talk about them ...
 
I think that is the case this whole thing started because the owner for thermolife had serious beef with the owner from driven sports and it really pissed him off when craze shot to the number one spot and the witch hunt began and anymore you just have to be accused of something and your done and that's what happened you don't hear anything from the owner of thermolife now mission accomplished.
 
Really really interested to see how this will turn out , Frenzy from DS is still a great product and one of my go to pre-workouts - Its heavy stim and seems to be a very quick release and short-ish lasting buzz 1-2 hours. So a long lasting one could be good , not so much for evening workouts. At the moment hydrapharm: hydrazine is killing it for Pre workout if you can get hold of it out of the UK.
 
Unfortunately they changed the formula of Frenzy with the new tastes. I get a same kind of feeling with the new ones as I did with Craze 2: Just not wanting to work out.. I luckily ordered some old Orange batch from ebay and wow, what a difference!
 
Craze was spiked and multiple people found it via testing including Patrick Arnold. Thermolife is patent gobbling and sue crazy but DS wasn’t innocent in the Craze case
 
You are correct on PA test and coming from him it became a big deal but on the other hand there were other tests that came back fine but they just needed that one to do them in and he knew that. I have to say I experienced far less sides from craze then some of the pre's I've taken after it was gone.
 
dont know guys but as i see driven sports is ready to take new products ,not only pre... the latest AX is bunk i believe ... i wish to be a good come back with new lX AND AX AND TZ
 
Sorry looked to quick at that thermolife and epharm got together to take matt down. I'm not saying matt is totally innocent in this but I got bored one night and went back on everything and now it looks more like a witch hunt but I could be wrong and I'm biased because I loved craze.
 
patrick25 said:
Sorry looked to quick at that thermolife and epharm got together to take matt down. I'm not saying matt is totally innocent in this but I got bored one night and went back on everything and now it looks more like a witch hunt but I could be wrong and I'm biased because I loved craze.
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Patrick Arnold was the first to expose it. DS threatened him with lawsuits so he stopped pursuing it and kept silent. DS then began releasing test results for different batches showing nothing spiked. However, their tests didn’t test for the amphetamine it was spiked with. Numerous others exposed DS not just PA and thermolife. The only connection those two have is that Thermolife patented DAA since PA couldn’t afford it.

Craze was spiked. I remember people being up for days on end with that stuff. Why do you think no supplement has been able to replecate it? Do you honestly thing PEA analogues we’re giving that effect? Gaspari detonate tested positive too and they were using the denborium Raws provided by Cahill. Retailers such as GNC wouldn’t stop carrying their best seller if it was legitimate. Furthermore, if it weren’t spiked, DS would just rerelease the most successful formula ever created.

If you think PA just brought DS down out of spite and that Craze wasn’t spiked, I have ocean front property in Arizona I’d like to sell you. Same company saying superdrol wasn’t toxic, same man giving clients DNP that resulted in their death
 
Can you believe the ramifications if it were true. Selling thousands of tubs of a product with an illegal amphetamine analog in it. Yet nothing happened pressure to pull the product was it. Matt never even paid a fine. People were saying he would get locked up for years and he would have if it were true. So I'm going to error on the side of doubtful.
 
patrick25 said:
Can you believe the ramifications if it were true. Selling thousands of tubs of a product with an illegal amphetamine analog in it. Yet nothing happened pressure to pull the product was it. Matt never even paid a fine. People were saying he would get locked up for years and he would have if it were true. So I'm going to error on the side of doubtful.
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So if he had the greates preworkout formula of all time and it was compliant why wouldn’t he be making something similar instead of this recent garbage
 
I think he didn't want anymore heat so that weak sauce called craze v2 was released and no one doubted it because it was sh.. do you see my point on nothing happened to him. I see where you are coming from with the link also it didn't look good. But to me he was a perfect target with his past. Instantly guilty in the public eye at least.
 
patrick25 said:
I think he didn't want anymore heat so that weak sauce called craze v2 was released and no one doubted it because it was sh.. do you see my point on nothing happened to him. I see where you are coming from with the link also it didn't look good. But to me he was a perfect target with his past. Instantly guilty in the public eye at least.
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You would think he’d be in trouble especially since he is a felon but not sure. All I’m saying is that Craze was too good to be true. If tried a lot of things and two scoops of some batches felt similar to taking 30-40mgs of adderall to me

Trust me I wish it was natural and safe and that companies could make something similar. But it just isn’t possible
 
I will agree also if he doesn't release og craze within the next two years he did something funny. Because the hints on fb and instagram have gone on long enough
 
can anyone explain me why before 6 years activate xtreme was top and very good Test booster ,but now when i use the latest version i didnt notice anything?
 
Because Activate was probably also spiked? Or the current raw materials suck?
Same story with Triazole.

Or if you look at old PES stuff.
 
I hadnt realized all this with DS.

What would activate or lean xtreme be spiked with, though? Old LX was good, new not so much.
 
I ran a tub of the original craze and it was incredible. Then I ran out and for a week I was in the worst withdrawl of my life. Felt terrible...restless...and down.

Plus I was a huge fan of Triazole and Activate then. Stuff worked wonders. However last couple of years Ive ordered and it does nothing but bloat me. Night and day the difference.

I am done with them.
 
jrock645 said:
I hadnt realized all this with DS.

What would activate or lean xtreme be spiked with, though? Old LX was good, new not so much.
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So many options. Low dosed AIs, prohormones, etc. Who knows.

I am not making any accusations with regard to DS, but spiking the first batch(es) to create a buzz and then delivering subpar stuff is one of the oldest tricks in the industry. Funny that all great muscle builders get discontinued at some time and replaced by some bunk, it is not a coincidence.

That said, it is also true that it is very complicated to get good raw materials nowadays and many companies do not bother to test each batch as they should. So the first batch of raw material was maybe great stuff and the others bunk, greetings from China
 
me tooo .. but as i said ..they are ready for new products.. if i seee good reviews i will give them a chance
 
patrick25 said:
I think he didn't want anymore heat so that weak sauce called craze v2 was released and no one doubted it because it was sh.. do you see my point on nothing happened to him. I see where you are coming from with the link also it didn't look good. But to me he was a perfect target with his past. Instantly guilty in the public eye at least.
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A. He has plausible deniability. Unless a prosecutor can show Cahill as having had knowledge of the spiking and intent to sell a miss-branded drug drug as a supplement he can deny knowledge of wrong doing. He can claim trust in the raw ingredient supplier and pretend to be as shocked as everyone else. This happens all the time with the OTC boner pills. They claim they had no idea how viagra or it's analogues got in there "Diamond Cutter Nights" pills. They stop selling it and essentially get away with it.

B.Cahill ratted on some bigger fish. NOT SAYING this happened just that it could have.

Your assumption of innocence of one M. Cahill is based on the idea that if nothing bad happened to him he did nothing illegal? Really?
 
BCseacow83 said:
A. He has plausible deniability. Unless a prosecutor can show Cahill as having had knowledge of the spiking and intent to sell a miss-branded drug drug as a supplement he can deny knowledge of wrong doing. He can claim trust in the raw ingredient supplier and pretend to be as shocked as everyone else. This happens all the time with the OTC boner pills. They claim they had no idea how viagra or it's analogues got in there "Diamond Cutter Nights" pills. They stop selling it and essentially get away with it.

B.Cahill ratted on some bigger fish. NOT SAYING this happened just that it could have.

Your assumption of innocence of one M. Cahill is based on the idea that if nothing bad happened to him he did nothing illegal? Really?
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The dude is clearly shady as s**t. I wouldn’t touch anything he makes with a ten foot pole. If I want drugs I’ll buy drugs, and I don’t want underdosed garbage supps that aren’t spiked either.
 
If you drink the kool aid at the party and you are unaware it's spiked with vodka and you drive home and plow through a group of people and have zero consequences let me know the name of your lawyer.
 
patrick25 said:
If you drink the kool aid at the party and you are unaware it's spiked with vodka and you drive home and plow through a group of people and have zero consequences let me know the name of your lawyer.
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Not what I said at all. You seem to be under the impression that when people get caught selling supplements that are spiked they get in legal trouble. They get a letter from the FDA most of the time and as long as they hit the breaks very rarely do they get in any legal trouble after the fact. Look at how many companies sold steroids as supplements. 99% of them got in zero legal trouble.

I don't know what to tell you if you honestly think craze was not spiked and cahill simply stopped selling it because of bad press. lol
 
muscleupcrohn said:
The dude is clearly shady as s**t. I wouldn’t touch anything he makes with a ten foot pole. If I want drugs I’ll buy drugs, and I don’t want underdosed garbage supps that aren’t spiked either.
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Oh I agree. I actually do not have an issue with the DNP in his history as long as those people were told what it was. As far as putting a meth analogue in a preworkout I have zero tolerance for that BS. I personally think we should be able to ingest anything we want but people need to know they are taking it. Same BS with Slim Xtreme, one pill and you don't want to eat for 36 hours, yea that's not DSHEA compliant. Also *******s like cahill only bring tougher laws and less choices in the end for the consumer. It also gives idiots the idea that a preworkout is supposed to feel like craze as is evidenced by all the people who make statements like, "This stuff is nothing compared to craze!" Ya no ****. And kratom is nothing compared to heroin you idiots lol.
 
BCseacow83 said:
Oh I agree. I actually do not have an issue with the DNP in his history as long as those people were told what it was. As far as putting a meth analogue in a preworkout I have zero tolerance for that BS. I personally think we should be able to ingest anything we want but people need to know they are taking it. Same BS with Slim Xtreme, one pill and you don't want to eat for 36 hours, yea that's not DSHEA compliant. Also *******s like cahill only bring tougher laws and less choices in the end for the consumer. It also gives idiots the idea that a preworkout is supposed to feel like craze as is evidenced by all the people who make statements like, "This stuff is nothing compared to craze!" Ya no ****. And kratom is nothing compared to heroin you idiots lol.
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Yeah. I also agree that people should have the right to take whatever they want, but to give someone something without their knowledge or consent? That's reprehensible and inexcusable.
 
Rize is now out on the market.
Thoughts?

Formula:
RIZE Proprietary Blend 5.1g *
Creatine Monohydrate, Trimethylglycine (Betaine Anhydrous), L-Citrulline, Cutch Tree Extract (seed), Cacao Extract (bean), Caffeine Anhydrous, Tangerine Extract (fruit), Walnut Extract (bark), Christmas Bush (leaf).
 
which ingredient is the dmha on this label? ,guys i think its really soft... i order now the total war redcon1 (old version with dmha) , i want to try the new rize but i hate fruit punch ,and i will wait to try another flavor(maybe cherry lemonade or grape),
 
Who knows what is in there, they do not mention anything. It is pure speculation to know for what those extracts are standardized for.

I will also wait for real life reviews, up to know too much hype as usual
 
MAZDAMX5LOVER said:
i believe that we should wait to try the second option, crz og
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In my estimation Crz Og is cover smoke for Rize, which is UK Exclusive (out of FDA's grip). Initial reviews on Crz Og seem lame, while initial reviews for Rize seem similar to Frenzy when it was launched (also UK/EU exclusive) and Frenzy was badass until reformulated lately. I prettu much touched nothing else for four years after it was released. Tried 10 different but none delivered like Frenzy.
 
i was trying yo find what is that extracts on rize and i found that walnut extract (this is an ingredient on the label ) is juglans regia which is very good for me ,do you know what is the real name of tangerine extract??
 
The tangerine extract is probably synephrine, because using bitter orange would have been too conventional.

I am more interested in the other two plants. Quick research led to some sort of aesculus (more commonly found in Horse chestnut) for blood circulation, etc. in Christmas Bush and cutch tree can be standardized to epicatechin.

But since there 100 species of each thing and dozens of constituents, who knows.
 
if the only stims are synephrine and junglans regia i will not try it .. epitcatechin to the pre workout ??wtf guys ??? . maybe its real ,because to the crz og they put in DHEA lol,so it is possible to see epicatechin there ....where is agmatine?? where is glycerol?? where is vaso 6?
 
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