hi guys does anyone got any info about the new DS's pre workout???? some say that will be very stim strong ,but i bet that it will be not so good as the old craze ....
Patrick Arnold was the first to expose it. DS threatened him with lawsuits so he stopped pursuing it and kept silent. DS then began releasing test results for different batches showing nothing spiked. However, their tests didn’t test for the amphetamine it was spiked with. Numerous others exposed DS not just PA and thermolife. The only connection those two have is that Thermolife patented DAA since PA couldn’t afford it.Sorry looked to quick at that thermolife and epharm got together to take matt down. I'm not saying matt is totally innocent in this but I got bored one night and went back on everything and now it looks more like a witch hunt but I could be wrong and I'm biased because I loved craze.
So if he had the greates preworkout formula of all time and it was compliant why wouldn’t he be making something similar instead of this recent garbageCan you believe the ramifications if it were true. Selling thousands of tubs of a product with an illegal amphetamine analog in it. Yet nothing happened pressure to pull the product was it. Matt never even paid a fine. People were saying he would get locked up for years and he would have if it were true. So I'm going to error on the side of doubtful.
You would think he’d be in trouble especially since he is a felon but not sure. All I’m saying is that Craze was too good to be true. If tried a lot of things and two scoops of some batches felt similar to taking 30-40mgs of adderall to meI think he didn't want anymore heat so that weak sauce called craze v2 was released and no one doubted it because it was sh.. do you see my point on nothing happened to him. I see where you are coming from with the link also it didn't look good. But to me he was a perfect target with his past. Instantly guilty in the public eye at least.
So many options. Low dosed AIs, prohormones, etc. Who knows.I hadnt realized all this with DS.
What would activate or lean xtreme be spiked with, though? Old LX was good, new not so much.
A. He has plausible deniability. Unless a prosecutor can show Cahill as having had knowledge of the spiking and intent to sell a miss-branded drug drug as a supplement he can deny knowledge of wrong doing. He can claim trust in the raw ingredient supplier and pretend to be as shocked as everyone else. This happens all the time with the OTC boner pills. They claim they had no idea how viagra or it's analogues got in there "Diamond Cutter Nights" pills. They stop selling it and essentially get away with it.I think he didn't want anymore heat so that weak sauce called craze v2 was released and no one doubted it because it was sh.. do you see my point on nothing happened to him. I see where you are coming from with the link also it didn't look good. But to me he was a perfect target with his past. Instantly guilty in the public eye at least.
The dude is clearly shady as s**t. I wouldn’t touch anything he makes with a ten foot pole. If I want drugs I’ll buy drugs, and I don’t want underdosed garbage supps that aren’t spiked either.A. He has plausible deniability. Unless a prosecutor can show Cahill as having had knowledge of the spiking and intent to sell a miss-branded drug drug as a supplement he can deny knowledge of wrong doing. He can claim trust in the raw ingredient supplier and pretend to be as shocked as everyone else. This happens all the time with the OTC boner pills. They claim they had no idea how viagra or it's analogues got in there "Diamond Cutter Nights" pills. They stop selling it and essentially get away with it.
B.Cahill ratted on some bigger fish. NOT SAYING this happened just that it could have.
Your assumption of innocence of one M. Cahill is based on the idea that if nothing bad happened to him he did nothing illegal? Really?
Not what I said at all. You seem to be under the impression that when people get caught selling supplements that are spiked they get in legal trouble. They get a letter from the FDA most of the time and as long as they hit the breaks very rarely do they get in any legal trouble after the fact. Look at how many companies sold steroids as supplements. 99% of them got in zero legal trouble.If you drink the kool aid at the party and you are unaware it's spiked with vodka and you drive home and plow through a group of people and have zero consequences let me know the name of your lawyer.
Oh I agree. I actually do not have an issue with the DNP in his history as long as those people were told what it was. As far as putting a meth analogue in a preworkout I have zero tolerance for that BS. I personally think we should be able to ingest anything we want but people need to know they are taking it. Same BS with Slim Xtreme, one pill and you don't want to eat for 36 hours, yea that's not DSHEA compliant. Also *******s like cahill only bring tougher laws and less choices in the end for the consumer. It also gives idiots the idea that a preworkout is supposed to feel like craze as is evidenced by all the people who make statements like, "This stuff is nothing compared to craze!" Ya no ****. And kratom is nothing compared to heroin you idiots lol.The dude is clearly shady as s**t. I wouldn’t touch anything he makes with a ten foot pole. If I want drugs I’ll buy drugs, and I don’t want underdosed garbage supps that aren’t spiked either.
Yeah. I also agree that people should have the right to take whatever they want, but to give someone something without their knowledge or consent? That's reprehensible and inexcusable.Oh I agree. I actually do not have an issue with the DNP in his history as long as those people were told what it was. As far as putting a meth analogue in a preworkout I have zero tolerance for that BS. I personally think we should be able to ingest anything we want but people need to know they are taking it. Same BS with Slim Xtreme, one pill and you don't want to eat for 36 hours, yea that's not DSHEA compliant. Also *******s like cahill only bring tougher laws and less choices in the end for the consumer. It also gives idiots the idea that a preworkout is supposed to feel like craze as is evidenced by all the people who make statements like, "This stuff is nothing compared to craze!" Ya no ****. And kratom is nothing compared to heroin you idiots lol.
Agreed not to mention incredibly dangerous.Yeah. I also agree that people should have the right to take whatever they want, but to give someone something without their knowledge or consent? That's reprehensible and inexcusable.
In my estimation Crz Og is cover smoke for Rize, which is UK Exclusive (out of FDA's grip). Initial reviews on Crz Og seem lame, while initial reviews for Rize seem similar to Frenzy when it was launched (also UK/EU exclusive) and Frenzy was badass until reformulated lately. I prettu much touched nothing else for four years after it was released. Tried 10 different but none delivered like Frenzy.i believe that we should wait to try the second option, crz og