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RipFactor

RipFactor seem to work similar to Finasteride?

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If so I would not touch that
 
sns8778 said:
I was thinking a daily dose of 650 mg. RipFactor and 300 mg. Apigenin if we go that route.

If we dosed the Apigenin any higher, it may be better suited for a different product idea and not mixed with RipFactor due to costs.
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Also I've read numerous articles on apigenin being anti cancer, another plus
 
alvin1 said:
RipFactor seem to work similar to Finasteride?

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If so I would not touch that
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Woahhh I’m gonna have to read through that later

But if there is any merit to that looks like I just wasted some money because I also would not touch that lol
 
I think peak atp, cindura and or optinos may be more anabolic than rippedfactor.
 
00A said:
Which epi you use, seems ppl lost faith in it and need a trusted source, mor cheap chinese, little bit funny around blackstone labs
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I know of a guy who mega dosed epicatechin and felt it gave him great endurance but not much in terms of actual muscle size. I don't know the brand he was taking though.
 
Iwilleattuna said:
I still believe epicatechin will be better, but in for the experiments
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I think overall Epicatechin will still be better, but I still think RipFactor could hold some potential.
 
00A said:
Which epi you use, seems ppl lost faith in it and need a trusted source, mor cheap chinese, little bit funny around blackstone labs
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The issue with epicatechin is companies using cheaper materials, some companies using verbiage on their labels that allow them to really be offering green tea and not any relevant percent epicatechin, and so many companies prop blending it.

That's why from the very beginning we went straight to the point with Epi-Plex - 300 mg. Epicatechin and 20 mg. Piperine per cap.
 
I megadosed epicatechin for a few months from a reputable brand and didn’t get anything noticeable from it. I’m on day #5 Ripfactor although it’s too early to tell if it’s doing anything. It’s not a pure experiment because I’m also taking Optinos which seems to be potentiating creatine nitrate well.
 
We'll get to see what a new form of Epicatechin can do very soon!
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Every time I have used Epi I have loved it...
I have used Follidrone 1, 2, Epi-plex, and Epichaos.
Is it possible some people respond better to this substance than others?

I will be interested in Matt's new product.
 
Darkhorse192 said:
Every time I have used Epi I have loved it...
I have used Follidrone 1, 2, Epi-plex, and Epichaos.
Is it possible some people respond better to this substance than others?

I will be interested in Matt's new product.
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Absolutely. I think people respond different to different things. And I think also with Epicatechin, there was so much hype and overpromotion in the beginning that some people were expecting unrealistic results from it.
 
I didn’t start my run yet, two bottles sitting behind me. Finishing up my Anabolic effect run and really enjoying that
 
rowz4broz said:
I didn’t start my run yet, two bottles sitting behind me. Finishing up my Anabolic effect run and really enjoying that
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I'm actually doing the same. Gonna run ripfactor with either the new evomuse or new blr anabolic. Whichever comes out first
 
BigGame84 said:
I ran like 5 bottles straight at the recommended dose. Not sure I really noticed anything. Don't plan on buying it again.
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did you double dose at anypoint ? wondering if underdosed
 
BigGame84 said:
I usually do that but with this I did not. The study was 625 so that's what I stayed with.
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Lol I am so surprised. You always go above and beyond lol
 
BigGame84 said:
I usually do that but with this I did not. The study was 625 so that's what I stayed with.
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I thought the study dosages were 325 mg. and 650 mg. The brand you were taking I believe has 325. mg per capsule. Were you doing 2 caps per day on it?
 
BigGame84 said:
Ok, it was 650 mg then. The brand was Alpha Lion.
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I thought it was Alpha Lion and I thought you were taking 650 mg per day. I just wanted to clarify bc I was curious how you did with it. We have some people asking us to do one, but if we do, it'll likely be as part of a formula and not a single ingredient.
 
sns8778 said:
I thought it was Alpha Lion and I thought you were taking 650 mg per day. I just wanted to clarify bc I was curious how you did with it. We have some people asking us to do one, but if we do, it'll likely be as part of a formula and not a single ingredient.
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A lot of these single ingredient releases don’t make a lot of sense to me, the Gains Candy line in particular. Why the hell would someone want to buy a bottle of GlucoVantage, RipFactor, or Mitoburn at like $30 a bottle when for about $10 more they can get a comprehensive product that literally contains one or several of those ingredients at the same daily dosage along with a bunch of other goodies?

Ok, to be fair to them, there’s not a lot of RipFactor products out right now, so I will give them that.
 
kissdadookie said:
A lot of these single ingredient releases don’t make a lot of sense to me, the Gains Candy line in particular. Why the hell would someone want to buy a bottle of GlucoVantage, RipFactor, or Mitoburn at like $30 a bottle when for about $10 more they can get a comprehensive product that literally contains one or several of those ingredients at the same daily dosage along with a bunch of other goodies?

Ok, to be fair to them, there’s not a lot of RipFactor products out right now, so I will give them that.
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We sell a lot of single ingredient products ourselves and there are people that really like being able to try things out a single ingredients or customize the dosage to their own individual needs. But we also take tight margins so they make more cost effective sense versus formulas. And we still do formulation items as well, so we try to make both sides happy.

In Alpha Lions case, I can't speak for them but I think it was for 2 reasons - 1) They like or liked to promote a lot on PricePlow and PricePlow really promotes NNB ingredients a lot so it was a marketing thing for them 2) Testing the market to see if they would sell so they could include them in formulas bc some of the ingredients started in Gains Candy Series and then they used in formulas.
 
kissdadookie said:
A lot of these single ingredient releases don’t make a lot of sense to me, the Gains Candy line in particular. Why the hell would someone want to buy a bottle of GlucoVantage, RipFactor, or Mitoburn at like $30 a bottle when for about $10 more they can get a comprehensive product that literally contains one or several of those ingredients at the same daily dosage along with a bunch of other goodies?

Ok, to be fair to them, there’s not a lot of RipFactor products out right now, so I will give them that.
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Because i dont want bloody sucralose and shiity natural flavours and all the other crap that ppl are happy to take as its all ok
 
00A said:
Because i dont want bloody sucralose and shiity natural flavours and all the other crap that ppl are happy to take as its all ok
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But perfectly fine to take whatever random extract that has even less safety data behind it than sucralose? You do you boo.
 
00A said:
True true but point was about standalone products and why someone would buy
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Fair enough, but $30 for 500 mg a day of Mitoburn? Seems steep to me :P Same with GlucoVantage, not a lot of products out with RipFactor though so can’t at this point gauge the value of that ingredient yet.
 
kissdadookie said:
Fair enough, but $30 for 500 mg a day of Mitoburn? Seems steep to me :p Same with GlucoVantage, not a lot of products out with RipFactor though so can’t at this point gauge the value of that ingredient yet.
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I think MitoBurn by them is closer to 40.00; I think it was 37.99 last I looked.

We're doing both ways - we're making a single ingredient MitoBurn and we're doing it in a formula. I can't speak for them on how they price their products; they do huge ad campaigns so they do have to have more markup to support those. I can only say that ours will be a much better value (but probably won't ever outsell theirs bc of the marketing campaign of theirs).

On the point of RipFactor, based on feedback so far, I'm not impressed with feedback enough to offer it as a single ingredient. To me, I may include it in something, but not really interested in offering it as a single ingredient. I also suspect though that due to MOA, this might work very different in different people in terms of results. But I do think the ingredient itself didn't do itself any favors by being overhyped from the beginning and I don't think it will likely meet the hype expectations.
 
sns8778 said:
I think MitoBurn by them is closer to 40.00; I think it was 37.99 last I looked.

We're doing both ways - we're making a single ingredient MitoBurn and we're doing it in a formula. I can't speak for them on how they price their products; they do huge ad campaigns so they do have to have more markup to support those. I can only say that ours will be a much better value (but probably won't ever outsell theirs bc of the marketing campaign of theirs).

On the point of RipFactor, based on feedback so far, I'm not impressed with feedback enough to offer it as a single ingredient. To me, I may include it in something, but not really interested in offering it as a single ingredient. I also suspect though that due to MOA, this might work very different in different people in terms of results. But I do think the ingredient itself didn't do itself any favors by being overhyped from the beginning and I don't think it will likely meet the hype expectations.
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I gave ripfactor an honest try and was let down. Noticed nothing at all
 
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