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Results From Pulsing Thread... Post Yours!

Sdrol clone/Epi pulse

Alright so I am finishing the first four weeks of my Sdrol (BN clone) Epi puse.

Starting weight : 208 lbs

Body fat %: unknown but about 16-17%

Bench 3 sets with 225 x8 (not including 2 warm up sets)

Ending weight : 213lbs

Body fat about 15%( I moved up 2 notches on my work belt

and my size 38 shorts dont fit.... but they didnt fit 2 well to

begin with cause I like my clothes loose :thumbsup:)

Bench 235 x 8 for 3 sets

pulse schedule

Week 1 BN sdrol 10/10/20, week 2 sdrol 10/10/10 only took
bulk powerfull on off days for the first 2 weeks 3grams EOD.
Week 3 I got my bulk 6oxo, Epistane, ad xlean in the mail so I threw in 200-300mgs of 6oxo and 2 caps of xlean EOD and D/C'd do Sdrol and switch to epi 10/30/40 and week 40/40/50

Now I am doing two weeks of bulk nettle 400mg QID with 300 mg of 6oxo and 2 caps of Xlean.

Then in 2 weeks I am going start Epi again at 40/40/60?, 40/40/60 ( not sure if I should go up to 60?) Then 2 weeks of 10/10/10, 10/10/30 of Sdrol.

Impression so far? Great I was very impressed with the superdrol I have a really hard time with side with this product but the sides were very managable :lol: BP stayed normal, and Libido was thru the roof:thumbsup:

The thing I am not sure about is if the Epi really did much to help gains/strength and fat lose??? so maybe I will do 4 weeks of Epi next then 1-2 weeks of sdrol to see the difference because it seemed like I stopped gaining the end of the 3rd week

Oh BTW not a single side noticed from the Epistane and I have had very uncomfortable sides form 1-AD, Superdrol and Phera-Plex in the past so I am very pleased with that

May the Lord keep you Bless you and maketh his countenance shine upon you.

I will update at the end of the 2 week break !!
 
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Name: Distilled Water

Product: RPN Havoc

Diet: 250-500cals above maintenence

Goal: lean bulk

Pulse Length (weeks): 4 weeks

Pulse Dose:
Week 1: 10/20/30
Week 2: 30/30/30
Week 3: 40/40/40
Week 4: 50/50/50

Starting Stats:
Measurement time.........

Weight :182lbs

Arms are cold unflexed and straight
Right: 14"
Left: 14 1/8"
R-forearm: 12 1/4"
L-forearm 12"

Chest: 43 1/4"
Waist: 32"

Leg 3" above knee unflexed cold
Right:20 1/2"
Left:21"
R-Thigh: 24 1/4"
L-Thigh: 23 3/4"
R-calf: 15"
L-calf: 15 1/4"


Finishing Stats:
*This was 2 weeks I cant find the ones from after 4 but I was bigger than here, I'd say just double every measurement

Weight : 186lbs (+4)

Right arm: 14 1/8" (+1/8")
Left arm : 14 1/4" (+1/8")

Right Forearm: 12 1/4" (No change)
Left Forearm: 12 1/4" (+1/2")

Chest: 43 1/2" (+1/2)
Waist : 32" (no change )

Right Leg: 21 1/4" (+ 3/4")
Left Leg: 21 1/4" (+1/4")
Right Thigh: 24 1/4" (no change)
Left Thigh: 24" (+1/4")

Right Calf: 15 1/8" (+1/8")
Left Calf: 15 1/8" (no change)

I ended at 187~188lbs

Side FX:I dont think I had any other than dry joints

Overall Opinion: I liked it. It worked the same as running it straight thru for 4 weeks. I'm going to try and do it again


Pulse Cycle Therapy:
2 weeks
Nolva: 20/10
Trib: 3/3
Retain: 2/1
 
romanreid said:
... Oh BTW not a single side noticed from the Epistane and I have had very uncomfortable sides form 1-AD, Superdrol and Phera-Plex in the past so I am very pleased with that

May the Lord keep you Bless you and maketh his countenance shine upon you.

I will update at the end of the 2 week break !!
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That's great! God bless you too and I pray your gains keep coming clean and strong.
 
DR.D said:
I haven't tried JW yet so I have no experience to reference, and everybody has a different opinion on this stuff it seems, so what's the deal! Is it suppressive or not? It looks to me like not because you actually applied it as your test booster on off days, right?
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I have used it a few times, always good results, and havent felt any signs of suppression (not sure exactly what being suppressed feels like, but felt good nonetheless) .
 
DR.D said:
I haven't tried JW yet so I have no experience to reference, and everybody has a different opinion on this stuff it seems, so what's the deal! Is it suppressive or not? It looks to me like not because you actually applied it as your test booster on off days, right?
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Ive been running JW since my PCT a couple weeks ago and its been great! No suppression at all. I actually have experienced a very good libido boost and occasional morning wood. :)

I am very impressed with it overall. Much better than PF for me. Great strength, intensity, pumps and muscle fullness afterward. First ALRI product i have used and again as ive said before, I am very impressed. :)

ohh and Happy b-day Bro! :cheers: Your getting up there! :D
 
JZ7757 said:
Ive been running JW since my post cycle therapy a couple weeks ago and its been great! No suppression at all. ... ohh and Happy b-day Bro! :cheers: Your getting up there! :D
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Well if you like it J, I guess that's the final straw and I'll have to try it soon. I have 2-3 bottles of it calling my name, just wasn't sure if it was suitable in post cycle therapy or not.

Thanks on the b-day wishes, yeah, I'm an old man now for sure! It's hard to believe sometimes. :)
 
JZ7757 said:
Ive been running JW since my post cycle therapy a couple weeks ago and its been great! No suppression at all. I actually have experienced a very good libido boost and occasional morning wood. :)

I am very impressed with it overall. Much better than PF for me. Great strength, intensity, pumps and muscle fullness afterward. First ALRI product i have used and again as ive said before, I am very impressed. :)

ohh and Happy b-day Bro! :cheers: Your getting up there! :D
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How you feel isn't an indicator of shut down. The only way to tell is a blood test.
 
^How i feel and libido specifically is a gague for shutdown, not nessesary the final authority as a blood test would be.

I know there can be many surprizes in blood test results compared to how someone "feels", but shutdown in particular for me is a slight exception. I have been on three compounds where i have experienced shutdown, from mild to severe (superdrol) and know how it feels and how my body reacts to it.

I will actually be getting blood work done after my JW stint, just to see how i stand prior to my next cycle. I may post it when the time comes.
 
Name: ChuckBooty

Product: Epistane

Diet: I have a decent diet...I don't go Nazi with it but I stay away from fast food, junk food, candy, etc

Goal: i.e lean bulk

Pulse Length (weeks): 4

Pulse Dose: 30/40/40/30 Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri

Starting Stats: 188 lbs

Finishing Stats: 185lbs

Side FX: A bit lethargic and spaced out at 40mgs. I think my sweet spot is thirty (20mgs pre/post)

Overall Opinion:
This was the second phase of my "Liver Killer" pulse. It started off with four weeks pulsing Testanate-50 and I cut it early due to the wet gains and the suppression. Finished up with Epistane in order to lean out a bit while maintaining the AWESOME strength gains that I got from the Testanate-50.

The Epistane was pretty much side-effect free and it DID help me shed a lot of that water weight that I retained from the T-50. I also set a new personal record on the flat-bench 275lbs BAY-BEE:head: ..this jumped up a whopping 25lbs!

I noticed my strength still increased and I become more defined (lovin' it!). I'll definitely run it again.

Pulse Cycle Therapy:
I know that the conventional wisdom is that a SERM is not required from a pulse cycle...ESPECIALLY Epistane. However, because I did get some suppression from the T-50 AND because my first cycle ever was back in April/May where I ran 30 days straight of Halodrol-50 without using a SERM (typical first cycle...not enough knowledge, some bad advice, and google.com's friggin' SPELL CHECK (ended up ordering Novadex XT instead) I DID run some Nolvadex.

My post cycle therapy is as follows:
Nolvadex 30/20
HDX2 (two caps before bed)
Powerfull (1 cap pre workout and one or two caps before bed)
X-Lean (ran this throughout the cycle and continue taking one cap with each meal...3 per day)
 
Mid-Cycle Update!

Name: OzarkaBrand

Product: CEL M-Drol/Havoc

Diet: Pretty clean, plenty to eat

Goal: Lean bulk

Pulse Length (weeks): 4 weeks, then 1 week off, then 4 more

Pulse Dose: Starting with 20mg Havoc Pre/ 10mg M-drol Post for first 4 weeks, then will hopefully be doing 20mg M-drol Pre/ 30mg Havoc Post for the last 4

Starting Stats: 5'9" 175

Mid-Cycle Stats: Up approx 8 - 10lbs :)

Finishing Stats:

Side FX: None thus far.

Overall Opinion:

Other Supps: Alpha Drive XL off days, trione for the week I'm off, fish oil, supercissus, coQ10, Celery seed extract, NOW Adam, Hawthorne berry, ON whey

Will update, again, when i finish my cycle!

Sidenote: Upped the m-drol to 20mgs since week 2, dosed it like this: 10 of each (Mdrol & Havoc) pre and post WO.
 
Name:Stavross. Oh Yeah!!

Product:Genetic edge, Genetic SD (superdrol clone)

Diet: Clean, moderate carbs, high protein, moderate fats.

Goal: lean bulk

Pulse Length (weeks): Four

Pulse Dose: 40mg three times a week. 20 pre/ 20post WO
Formestane e/d but it didn't mix too well so switched to ultra hotter and retain on off nights.

Starting Stats:199lb 6'

Finishing Stats:212lb 6'

Side FX: Felt a little sleepy. T-shirts got too tight.:icon_lol:

Overall Opinion: This waqs interesting. gained well without really cramming the food down. lost a couple of pounds after the pulse was over but not much. I got leaner too so not all the loss was muscle.
I think next time i use SD it will be a proper cycle as i prefer the pumped-all-day feeling of being on.



Pulse Cycle Therapy: finished off bottles of retain and U-Hotter (no serm used)
 
Name: Solitude

On-Cycle (Products & Dosages):

- Genera Supplements Epidrol = 20 mg for the first 2 workout days, 30 mg for workout 3 & 4, 40 mg for the rest of the cycle.
- 6-OXO Extreme = 2-3 caps ED

Diet: Roughly about 3000 clean calories + Few cheat meals a day (+++ calories).. LOL!! :D

Goal: All-out-bulk

Pulse Length: 60 days

Pulse Dose: Dose 3 times a week

Starting Stats: Weight 82 kg (180 lbs)

Finishing Stats: Weight 90 kg (198 lbs)

Side FX:

- I encounter a slight pain in my left nut at around day 13, which last for about 2 or 3 days.
- Backpumps when doing some heavy deadlifts especially with dose above 20 mg pre-workout.
- Few acne start popping up on my traps after 3 weeks. More and bigger acne pops up on my face after 5 weeks.
- Catch a cold and really2 bad sore throat on Day 19
- On Day 33 again catch a cold and sore throat again! but not as bad as last time
- Libido started high, but then continually declining as weeks gone by, but never disappear completely.

Overall Opinion:

Since this is my first Designer Steroid cycle, I have nothing to compare it to, but overall it was an awesome experience, all the sides that I experienced were tolerable and does not last very long.

I felt very happy every time on the way home from the gym for no particular reason, I'm not sure if this is what's called the feeling of well-being, but this only last for about the first 40 days, after that I don't feel it anymore.

It appears that MOST of the wonderful effects happens in the first 20 days, where I made the most gains, the next 20 days it started to decline, and the last 20 days I barely made any gains at all, not much positive effects, only more acne.


Post Cycle Therapy:

Was planning to run Nolva, but it might not be necessary, see how I feel, at the moment my post cycle therapy will only consist of HyperTest.

**Post Cycle Therapy Update (Day 6)**

Currently on Day 6 of post cycle therapy, no sign of gyno whatsoever but I've decided to administer some tamoxifen at 40 mg a day, because I'm worried that I'm experiencing testicular shrinkage (unusually low libido), I don't know for sure, but just to be on the safe side I will start dosing nolva for 20 days (40 mg for the first 10 days and 20 mg for last 10 days).

**Post Cycle Therapy Update (Day 11)**

Libido is returning to normal.
 
Done

Name: OzarkaBrand

Product: CEL M-Drol/Havoc

Diet: Pretty clean, plenty to eat

Goal: Lean bulk

Pulse Length (weeks): 4 weeks, then 1 week off, then 4 more

Pulse Dose: Starting with 20mg Havoc Pre/ 10mg M-drol Post for first 4 weeks, then will hopefully be doing 20mg M-drol Pre/ 30mg Havoc Post for the last 4

Starting Stats: 5'9" 175

Mid-Cycle Stats: Up approx 8 - 10lbs

Finishing Stats: Approx 185lbs

Side FX: Some elevated bp

Overall Opinion: Worked quite well IMO, although I wasn't too impressed with the strength gains, not that they were non-existant, just not what I would have liked to have seen.. Still a good run overall though.. Had to cut it short due to a sinus/bronchial infection, so it wound up being only 5 weeks.

PCT: Torm for 2 weeks

Other Supps: Alpha Drive XL off days, trione for the week I'm off, fish oil, supercissus, coQ10, Celery seed extract, NOW Adam, Hawthorne berry, ON whey

Sidenote: Upped the m-drol to 20mgs since week 2, dosed it like this: 10 of each (Mdrol & Havoc) pre and post WO, and wound up throwing some 1-ad in there around week 3, 200mgs pre and 200mgs post.
 
Product: SD(original) & Havoc

Diet: Just above maintenance, clean with Friday or Sat being a cheat day to eat junk with my kids, usually pizza & ice cream.

Goal: recomp

w/O: Mon - Chest, Tues - Back, Thur - Arms, Friday - shoulders, No legs due to a knee issue.
Mon, Tues, Thur, Sat: Mixed martial arts 1hr/day. I had to cut this back to 4-5 hours a week from 8.

Pulse Length: 6 weeks

Pulse Dose: 6 weeks Havoc 10, 20 30, ramping up to 30 every day by week 3, SD 10mg wk 4, 20 wk 5, 30 wk 6

Starting Stats: 5'10'', 180lbs, 13.5% BF (Avg on my scale, impedence)

Finishing Stats: 5'10'', 191lbs, BF 12.5%

Side FX:
First time with no lethargy on SD, credit given to Havoc
Libido was great, some shut down that was noticable in last 2 weeks, obviously form the SD
Strength up, comments on my arms being bigger that I was surprised to hear from a few different people.


Overall Opinion:
Adding the Havoc was great.

I did not take the huge assortment of support supps for the first time ever and I felt MUCH better. The last time I tried to start a cycle the support supps gave me big time stomach problems and I felt like crap.

I am guessing I could have added 3-5 more pounds if I had been doing legs as well. Possibly more if I had really focused on increasing cals.

Overall probably the most enjoyable time I have had in the gym in quite a while due to steady gains and weight gain. Nothing earth shattering but I had a goal to gain 10 lbs so that I could cut 8-10lbs of fat over the next 30-60 days and acheived that goal. Overall a general feeling of well being as well.

4 weeks PCT: Toremifene: 3 weeks Start 120 ramp down to 30, Activate, Retain 2, Fish oil, Liv52
 
Product: CEL m-drol (superdrol)

Diet: clean - chicken, tuna, oats, peanut butter, beef, all sorts of veggies, lean meats

Goal: lean bulkish?

Pulse Length (weeks): 1.5

Pulse Dose: 30mg (20mg pre, 10 mg post)

Starting Stats: 184 (morning weight) diet consistent

Finishing Stats: 191 (morning weight) diet consistent

Side FX: none, a little itchiness and sensitivity on day 11

This was my first REAL cycle of anything substantial (11 oxo is very weak/mild in terms of ph’s) , and I am EXTREMELY cautious about running this. In the end I chickened out, BUT i did gain roughly 6 pounds, and 15+ lbs on most lifts. (placebo? Maybe)

I was planning on going 5 weeks of pulsing MWF with 2 on 2 off on some weeks.


Overall Opinion:
Didn’t run it long enough to give a fair opinion, but it would seem it was going to be pretty good


Pulse Cycle Therapy:
Jungle Warfare, Bad Ass Mass, Pro Anabol
 
jaymdubbs said:
Product: CEL m-drol (superdrol)

Diet: clean - chicken, tuna, oats, peanut butter, beef, all sorts of veggies, lean meats

Goal: lean bulkish?

Pulse Length (weeks): 1.5

Pulse Dose: 30mg (20mg pre, 10 mg post)

Starting Stats: 184 (morning weight) diet consistent

Finishing Stats: 191 (morning weight) diet consistent

Side FX: none, a little itchiness and sensitivity on day 11

This was my first REAL cycle of anything substantial (11 oxo is very weak/mild in terms of ph’s) , and I am EXTREMELY cautious about running this. In the end I chickened out, BUT i did gain roughly 6 pounds, and 15+ lbs on most lifts. (placebo? Maybe)

I was planning on going 5 weeks of pulsing MWF with 2 on 2 off on some weeks.


Overall Opinion:
Didn’t run it long enough to give a fair opinion, but it would seem it was going to be pretty good


Pulse Cycle Therapy:
Jungle Warfare, Bad Ass Mass, Pro Anabol
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Looks like you got pretty good results for the short amount of time you were on, plus very mild sides. I'm curious what made you shy away from it when things were going so well. It seems like maybe you were headed for really nice gains w/ little to no sides. Think you might reprise the cycle?
 
Things were going REALLY well, but I kept reading logs upon logs upon logs of delayed gyno, shutdown, etc that I ultimately decided it wasn’t worth it, you cant put a price on my libido (hahahahha) . As for another cycle, I don’t think so, I went the hormonal route and came back unscathed (if only for 1.5 weeks) , and i don’t think i want to play with that kind of fire again.
 
jaymdubbs said:
Things were going REALLY well, but I kept reading logs upon logs upon logs of delayed gyno, shutdown, etc that I ultimately decided it wasn’t worth it, you cant put a price on my libido (hahahahha) . As for another cycle, I don’t think so, I went the hormonal route and came back unscathed (if only for 1.5 weeks) , and i don’t think i want to play with that kind of fire again.
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It's your call, of course, but I believe the reports of delayed gyno, libido issues and other sides come mostly from stardard cycles, as opposed to pulsing. Do what you want, of course, but you might take that into consideration, or possibly read up on logs of guys that have done superdrol pulse only cycles. Good luck, either way.
 
Product: Epithin-E

Diet: Pretty clean 80% of the time

Goal: Recomp

Pulse Length: 7 weeks

Pulse Dose: 40mg most of the pulse

Starting Stats: 238

Finishing Stats: 242.5

Bf: A drop from 16 to 14%
LBM: Increase of 9lbs
Fat: A decrease of 4lbs

Side FX: not many. Achy joints were my main complaint.

Positives: An increase of strength (Bench Press went from 275 x 6 to 275 x 9 reps). I dropped fat, added LBM. Hard to complain about that!

post cycle therapy:
Cissus-Drol (6 bromo), 2 pills per day x 5 days then 6-oxo extreme for 10 days.

Thoughts:
-A very nice/mild pulse cycle with good results. I never experienced any shutdown or serious sides. 40mg was the most I did but that brought on the achy joints. I plan to run this cycle again (pulsed) but will likely keep it at 30mg per day.
 
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Product: M Drol

Diet: Pretty clean, focused on more carbs

Goal: Bulk, strenght, not gain too much fat

Pulse Length: 4 1/2 weeks

Pulse Dose: started 10 tapered up to 30 4x/week
ex: monday 30mg, wed 30mg, fri/sat 20mg, I experimented and it worked.

Starting Stats: 201.2

Finishing Stats: 216.6

Bf: 12.6 last I checked, I would say it is arount 14 now

Side FX: Last week my joints and tendons in knee and elbow did not feel good, back pumps apeared towards the end when I did dead lifts.

Positives: SIZE baby, strenght went up 20% on average

PCT:
Blue up, Perfect Cycle, Torem, SNS pct stack, lots of omega's, and all the regular stuff

Thoughts:
Went very well, no acne as with past cycles, did not feel shut down at all, people noticed the size and pumps
 
NAS said:
Product: M Drol

Diet: Pretty clean, focused on more carbs

Goal: Bulk, strenght, not gain too much fat

Pulse Length: 4 1/2 weeks

Pulse Dose: started 10 tapered up to 30 4x/week
ex: monday 30mg, wed 30mg, fri/sat 20mg, I experimented and it worked.

Starting Stats: 201.2

Finishing Stats: 216.6

Bf: 12.6 last I checked, I would say it is arount 14 now

Side FX: Last week my joints and tendons in knee and elbow did not feel good, back pumps apeared towards the end when I did dead lifts.

Positives: SIZE baby, strenght went up 20% on average

post cycle therapy:
Blue up, Perfect Cycle, Torem, SNS post cycle therapy stack, lots of omega's, and all the regular stuff

Thoughts:
Went very well, no acne as with past cycles, did not feel shut down at all, people noticed the size and pumps
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very nice results, im doing a similar cycle except its going to be 10mg 3x a week for the 1st week, and 20mg mwf for the final 3 weeks. i also have torem on hand, how did you dose it, maybe i can have a similar dose maybe a little bit lighter since i am going to be taking less.

also what sort of routine were you on, since im going to the gym 3x a week im sticking to a 5x5 squat bench row method.

thanks
 
StellaArtois said:
very nice results, im doing a similar cycle except its going to be 10mg 3x a week for the 1st week, and 20mg mwf for the final 3 weeks. i also have torem on hand, how did you dose it, maybe i can have a similar dose maybe a little bit lighter since i am going to be taking less.

also what sort of routine were you on, since im going to the gym 3x a week im sticking to a 5x5 squat bench row method.

thanks
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for the torem= 4 days 120mg-4days 60mg-4days 30mg.
I lifted 5-6 times per week basically my normal routine of 1 major body part per day, ex: tues shoulders, thrus chest/tri, friday legs, sat back/bi, sun arms/abs or whatever needs work. My rep ranges were 6-10 depending on how I felt, I kept the whole thing pretty flexible since this was my first superdrol cycle. Since I think this is for results only feel free to pm if you have further questions.
 
Thanks guys for your results, please keep the chatter to a minimum as this is a results thread and there is a "How to pulse thread" open for discussion.

Thanks and much love,

Neoborn
 
Product: RPN Havoc

Diet: bulk

Goal: strength and mass

Pulse Length: 4 weeks

Pulse Dose: 20/30/40 wk1, 2-4 40mg

Starting Stats: 218

Finishing Stats: 228, gained som fat but still look more ripped since i got bigger muscles..

Sides: Back pumps when doing cardio, still have 5 days after ending cycle. Mood swings.

Notes: Strenth really skyrocketed:
Deadlift increased 5x275 -> 5x405(started using straps too, so thats a part of it.)
Dumbell Bench: 5x75 -> 5x100
Squats: 5x260 -> 5x325
Military Press: 5x55 -> 5x70
Pendlay Rows: 5x185 -> 5x225
 
Product: Epistane

Diet: 500 cals over maintanance

Goal: clean bulk

Pulse Length (weeks): 6 weeks

Pulse Dose:
I wanted to ease into things so my first doses were very conservative.
1st week (10,10,10)
2nd week: (20,20,20)
3-5 weeks (30,30,30)
6th week (40,40,40)

Starting Stats: 188lbs

Finishing Stats: 196lbs
About a half an inch up on biceps. bf% stayed about the same.

Side FX: None whatsoever.

Overall Opinion:
This was a great first cycle. No sides, just steady gains in size and strength. I didn't see any signs of supression, libido was acctually up. 8lbs gained overall, strength went up significantly.


Pulse Cycle Therapy:
Formastane ran on cycle, running novedex xt and nettle root for post cycle therapy now
 
Thanks guys for all these great results / honest results. Either good or bad it's good to post it here so others can see what works ....or doesn't for them :)

Thanks for contributing and keep up the good work!

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
Name:StellaArtois

Product:Mdrol

Diet:3k calories

Pulse Length/Pulse Dose: 3 weeks, first 2 weeks 20mg MWF, last week 20 mg M,tues, thurs, friday


Starting Stats:189

Finishing Stats:200

Side FX:didn't feel a whole lot of side effects, the third week however balls might have shrunk when i went to 4x a week, and i feel most gains came this way..

Overall Opinion: pretty satisfied, lifts went up, put some mass on, and have probably more than a half bottle left over.


Pulse Cycle Therapy:
torem following recommended dosages from the pulse thread, with lean xtreme for cortisol, and activate for test booster.
 
Not to be a bish guys but please take the talk to PM or into the "How to pulse orals" thread by DR.D

This thread is ONLY for RESULTS.

Thank you. I do this so people can get condensed information.
 
Name:Gtarzan81

Product:SNS Methyl Drol/Methyl-plex

Diet: Food and shakes

Goal: i.e cut, recomp, lean bulk, or all-out bulk: Bulking. Whats a cut? :)

Pulse Length (weeks): 3(stopped to do logs)

Pulse Dose:started with 10mg Drol/10mg plex.worked up to 30mg plex pre w/o and 20mg drol post.

Starting Stats: 167

Finishing Stats:171

Side FX: good "bounce" in libido on off days

Overall Opinion:I gained a few pounds, and was looking much more dense. I stopped it to do a log or 2. Am resuming currently.

Intra Cycle Therapy: Novadex XT before bed on pulse days.
Diesel Test plus DHEA on off days as wel as Lean Extreme.
 
Name: Maynehood171

Product: RPN Havoc

Diet: 3,000-3,500 cals
400-600 grams of carbs
250-300 grams of protein

Goal: bulk

Pulse Length (weeks): 8

Pulse Dose: MWF wk1-10/20/30 wk2-8: 40

Starting Stats: 6' 187lbs.

Finishing Stats: 6' 199lbs.

Training Stat Overview:
Wks 1-4 was high intensity training; low weight, high reps/sets dosing and training 3x/wk
Wks 4-8 was high weight, low reps/sets dosing 3x/wk for wks5-6 and ramped up to dosing 4x/wk-training 5x/wk for wks7-8. (Did this change b/c decided to use SERM anyways for PCT but this DOES NEGATE the pulsing concept so advise those to stick to 3x/wk if looking to avoid SERM)

Side FX: Acne/oily skin, little lethargy here and there, back and calf pumps (pretty horrid at times!), dry joints like a mofo!!!! AHHHH! Felt like I wanted to cut my arms off at the shoulders! Also experienced some high aggitation and aggression on dose days...

Overall Opinion: Did gain little fat but not much...Experienced excellent strength gains, some weight increased up by 30-40lbs! To recover in just a days time felt quite amazing to say the least. Will definately do another cycle and would recommend! GREATEST EFFECT felt for strength when on week 7 dosed MTWTh 40mg so guessing that straight cycle would obviously obtain max-effect but again, pulsed to avoid use of SERM but thinking going to go through with low dose anyways 40/20/20/10 of Nolva...

Pulse Cycle Therapy:
POST cycle support @ 2pills ED
Hyperdrol X2 (not starting or ramping up until 2 weeks into PCT)
11-oxo and Retain2 @ 4 pills ED (Though just heard 11-oxo is also suppressive so might just reconsider...but not starting until 2 weeks into PCT)
Nolva at 40/20/20/10
 
hman85 said:
Name: Hman85

Product: Superdrol (mdrol)

Pulse Length: 6 1/2 Weeks

Dose: 4x week (1st 20mg, 2nd-5th 30mg, 6 40mg)

Starting stats: 5'9 174

Ending stats: 5'9 189

Overall Impression: It was a good cycle only bad thing was killer back pumps(hate those)and lethargy. Strength went up all around noticed alot of size in my shoulders especially.Overall felt pretty good throughout.
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Lethargic symptoms accure when a highly anabolic compound is
used that does'nt have a high enough androgenic property.
By simply taking proviron or some other 90 + androgen rating
you will lessen the dragging feeling ,best to use a low amount of test that is allowed to aromatize slightly its also to low of estrogen in combination with low androgen that is causing this
lethargic feeling
 
shlong said:
Lethargic symptoms accure when a highly anabolic compound is
used that does'nt have a high enough androgenic property.
By simply taking proviron or some other 90 + androgen rating
you will lessen the dragging feeling ,best to use a low amount of test that is allowed to aromatize slightly its also to low of estrogen in combination with low androgen that is causing this
lethargic feeling
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Yeah dhea works well too!
 
Once i'm done my pct in 8 weeks or so i'm thinking of doing a 60mg Epistane pulse 3 days a week what would be better 60mg for 5 weeks or 50mg for 6? It will be a recomp.
 
I would say whatever you respond best to. If you have used Epistane quite a bit and your receptors are used to it, most likely the higher dosage would be better for you, hypothetically speaking.
 
neoborn said:
I would say whatever you respond best to. If you have used Epistane quite a bit and your receptors are used to it, most likely the higher dosage would be better for you, hypothetically speaking.
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I think i'd have to go with 60mg then.
 
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how are the guys who pulsed doing weeks/months after PCT? retain gains more so than a straight cycle? really curious in this
 
1,4AD bold has to be onboard a really long time to get results i would take this for ED 6-8 weeks minimum while pulsing Epi.

IMO
 
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