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Regulatory Changes in China and the USA

I could give a flying **** that sarms are banned as of January 1st.. the fact they are naming SERMS is a little more worrying to me tho
 
Hmmm would this impact raws and stuff? That’s the biggest issue I see from this, SARMs were never all that great in my opinion, could honestly give 2 shits about them but the raws from China are what worries me
 
I think it’ll impact a lot of things not really sure exactly what and how tho. One thing is sure it’s really not just about sarms.
 
Yeah the serms part is more concerning to me too. I guess it will just be foreign pharmacies that have websites now, but I would hate to have to send things through customs.
 
Anabaholic said:
Yeah the serms part is more concerning to me too. I guess it will just be foreign pharmacies that have websites now, but I would hate to have to send things through customs.
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I assume people will still be able to get raws and make stuff here in the US, just hoping the legit guys have a lot in storage to figure this out
 
ChocolateClen said:
I assume people will still be able to get raws and make stuff here in the US, just hoping the legit guys have a lot in storage to figure this out
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Well more than 90% of powders is from China. There’s not gonna be much place in the world that do these tbh, if any at all. The real question is are China’s organisation still going to go for it illegally
 
Mathb33 said:
Well more than 90% of powders is from China. There’s not gonna be much place in the world that do these tbh, if any at all. The real question is are China’s organisation still going to go for it illegally
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Maybe India will pop up, or some place in the Middle East I don’t know. When there’s a demand something will always find a way to supply it.
 
Mathb33 said:
Well more than 90% of powders is from China. There’s not gonna be much place in the world that do these tbh, if any at all. The real question is are China’s organisation still going to go for it illegally
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Would this also effect designers like M Sten and DMZ which are available in the US, would it?
 
Mathb33 said:
Sounds like some people will need to man up and inject the TeTOsTErOne or stick to andros
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Well, I have injected Test on and off for years, but still take other steroids. ... And certainly SERMs, GW, etc....
Curious to see what will happen here. It definitely has the potential to have a huge effect.
And if it does, I think there's a really big probability that the US will try to convince China to stop selling other compounds (including Test). And China might be inclined to agree, to help negotiate trade relations.
 
Renew1 said:
Well, I have injected Test on and off for years, but still take other steroids. ... And certainly SERMs, GW, etc....
Curious to see what will happen here. It definitely has the potential to have a huge effect.
And if it does, I think there's a really big probability that the US will try to convince China to stop selling other compounds (including Test). And China might be inclined to agree, to help negotiate trade relations.
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why do you have to absolutely scare the **** out of me about test? Can’t we leave this one out of the talk.
 
I just know within a few months things will change. Let’s see I guess.... one thing is sure, even if these powders are still sold (SERMS, sarms etc) the price of the final product will be extremely higher imo.
 
Mathb33 said:
why do you have to absolutely scare the **** out of me about test? Can’t we live this one out of the talk.
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Wish we could, Brother.
But hey, like was said above, somebody will step up, I'm sure.

Going through this type of thing over and over doesn't make it any more enjoyable, but it does make us realize that it probably isn't quite as dire of a situation as it may seem.
:-)
 
Renew1 said:
Wish we could, Brother.
But hey, like was said above, somebody will step up, I'm sure.

Going through this type of thing over and over doesn't make it any more enjoyable, but it does make us realize that it probably isn't quite as dire of a situation as it may seem.
:-)
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Might have to raise some bulls and milk them for it
 
Lol some of y’all funny , y’all didn’t look at the list ?
pretty much all anabolics will be gone Raws etc so ur favorite source won’t have sh!t to sell you till another country will sell u the Raws like China , welp stock up boys it’s gonna get dark soon
 
Mathb33 said:
I just know within a few months things will change. Let’s see I guess.... one thing is sure, even if these powders are still sold (SERMS, sarms etc) the price of the final product will be extremely higher imo.
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Probably more bunk will be on the market too. Is test legal to sell in China without a prescription?
 
From everything i have been reading it should change, but another place will step up. Also, there is just too much money to be made that china will just stop all together. Prices will probably go up for the end user, but not being able to get anything? Hardly
 
DieselJD said:
From everything i have been reading it should change, but another place will step up. Also, there is just too much money to be made that china will just stop all together. Prices will probably go up for the end user, but not being able to get anything? Hardly
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There will be drought most likely for few month they will have other ways to get it but it will be way way more expensive so STOCK UP hit up ur plug
 
hamdysayed said:
everything is on the ban list they almost left nothing , I think they banned caffeine too
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I saw they even banned the andros lol! Trump must have scared the **** out of them with tariffs! Can’t believe Cocaine was legal there up till now. At least fentanyl won’t be coming in to the country in the same massive amount. What a drastic shift in a short period time.
 
We are all F d and will be only able
to run andros the rest of pur
Lives! Guess I will have to run 1 andro at 1000 mg a day lol. That would be too expensive, not to mention the sides! I guess Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals must be pretty happy about this news! They specialize in andro only prohormones.
 
Load up ur credit cards y’all hit up ur plug before they start selling fakes , I know I’ll be loading up my credit card
 
JoePaul39 said:
We are all F d and will be only able
to run andros the rest of pur
Lives! Guess I will have to run 1 andro at 1000 mg a day lol. That would be too expensive, not to mention the sides! I guess Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals must be pretty happy about this news! They specialize in andro only prohormones.
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Even then, for those of us not on hrt, what do we do for pct?
 
Seems like it’s gonna be a rough one, even my sources are worried about it. Looks like I’ll be buying myself a Christmas present or two a bit early

Maybe we’ll finally get one state side raw producers
 
Mathb33 said:
That’s what’s worrying me. I can’t believe UGL will just stop selling injectables and that they won’t be able to find other ways... 😓
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Problem is the raws will now be coming from sources doing it illegally so they will be less safe with no manufacturing standard practices to adhere to (other than criminal code of honor which I wouldn’t trust). They will be more prone to things such as contaminants such as metals, leads, etc and no longer require testing. I don’t think many companies will defy the China government and manufacture illegally. It is a Communist government so they would really come down hard on that if caught. They don’t f around.
 
Nac said:
Ive read nothing about this on reddit, so it cant be realitea.
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Well, I'm of the opinion that we should all panic and run around in circles until we get dizzy and run into a wall or something.
.... but that's just my opinion. :-)
 
hamdysayed said:
He is going to have A lab to synthesize the materials ? Only way I can see he is GTG. Loll
Unless he stocks heavily
And oh yeah make no mistake prices will go all the way UPPPP
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This is why I wanted to learn how to home brew but sketchy af lol my gf would kill me too prolly
 
ChocolateClen said:
This is why I wanted to learn how to home brew but sketchy af lol my gf would kill me too prolly
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Yeah I’m not going to mess with that lol I’m goooooooooood on that , but home brewing is not hard I heard ! But synthesizing actual Raws you need actual Pharma labs probably cost 100 millions
 
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