Rebirth by BLR! FIRST NATURAL SERM??

I'll never use blr products or recommend them because the .... Uh, let's just say I don't like brundel.
I don't even know him personally, just the person he plays online
 
boundtoit said:
Nobody cares Jizz. And I don't care for your SNS buddies harassing me via PM. Lol it is entertaining though....
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This thread needn't get derailed further
 
boundtoit said:
Nobody cares Jizz. And I don't care for your SNS buddies harassing me via PM. Lol it is entertaining though....
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This thread needn't get derailed further
 
Hmmm.... ellagic acid doesn't exactly look new, but i believe brundel posted some study where the researchers noted that some of its actions were similar to those of tamoxifen

Suspending judgement pending further developments...aka - lab #'s
 
kisaj said:
Very well, keep fighting then. It's worth it.
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Fighting takes me places. Its all I know.

:D

Happy belated birthday brundel!
 
Why thank you. I've been committed to using and believing in products that work. BLR is at the top of my list.
 
Mission1 said:
I have rebirth / Viron/ Formeron lined up.. Probably mid march give ostra a trial.
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I've got some Osta on the way myself. Very excited to try it. It's been awhile since I've used anything besides basic pre wo and NO products...then again it's been about 6 months since I have been on a regular work out schedule. :p
 
Obviously this was 2 products Testabolan V2+Reversitol V2. But it does have the Ellagic Acid common even if the dosing is different. Anyways Heres a link to bloods for a Epistane+Superdrol.

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Who knows what else may have been at work here. And I honestly don't think the Testabolan would have had much impact. IF legit it is interesting and again only the Ellagic Acid is what's in common. Worth mentioning to is the dosing of the Ellagic is different and absorption is said to be enhanced with Rebirth.
 
mw1 said:
I've got some Osta on the way myself. Very excited to try it. It's been awhile since I've used anything besides basic pre wo and NO products...then again it's been about 6 months since I have been on a regular work out schedule. :p
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I bought ostashred. Price was a no brainer. I on the other hand have been a guinea pig for a bunch of stuff. Ara, follidrone,Anabeta, enjoyed them all. Hopefully you get back on a regular training schedule spring is right around the corner ;)
 
I asked about bloodwork in the announcement thread but was laughed off by some and ignored by those who could or should have answered. That said, I did buy two bottles. Hopefully someone will be the guinea pig and post bloods before I am ready to cycle.
 
3pic_B3ast said:
Obviously this was 2 products Testabolan V2+Reversitol V2. But it does have the Ellagic Acid common even if the dosing is different. Anyways Heres a link to bloods for a Epistane+Superdrol.

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Who knows what else may have been at work here. And I honestly don't think the Testabolan would have had much impact. IF legit it is interesting and again only the Ellagic Acid is what's in common. Worth mentioning to is the dosing of the Ellagic is different and absorption is said to be enhanced with Rebirth.
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Thanks for posting that- I have never seen bloods on an OTC PCT. The original Revtol was the **** when it had 6 bromo. Makes me feel better that I haven't ran a serm on any cycle I've ever done, lol.
 
barrymcokiner said:
Thanks for posting that- I have never seen bloods on an OTC PCT. The original Revtol was the **** when it had 6 bromo. Makes me feel better that I haven't ran a serm on any cycle I've ever done, lol.
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Seem reckless esp with the price and availability of them. To each their own.
 
SweetLou321 said:
Seem reckless esp with the price and availability of them. To each their own.
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I've always recovered fine, and I've run some hardcore cycles. No bloods to back it up, but my winky was down for awhile on my last DMZ run, and with OTC PCT and DAA, he came back to his full robust high school days in 3 weeks.
 
barrymcokiner said:
I've always recovered fine, and I've run some hardcore cycles. No bloods to back it up, but my winky was down for awhile on my last DMZ run, and with OTC PCT and DAA, he came back to his full robust high school days in 3 weeks.
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You are lucky, not everyone could get away with that
 
Recovery without a Serm is certainly possible for most people. But you will recover much faster with a serm. And always better safe.

That being said I purchased Rebirth for my Osta only cycle. I will be reporting back. Whether we believe in it or not at this point I think we will all learn something if people report back with experiences.
 
3pic_B3ast said:
Recovery without a Serm is certainly possible for most people. But you will recover much faster with a serm. And always better safe.

That being said I purchased Rebirth for my Osta only cycle. I will be reporting back. Whether we believe in it or not at this point I think we will all learn something if people report back with experiences.
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I am really interested in seeing how you recover. I wish you were running something more suppressive than Osta to see if it really works on a hardcore cycle like a 6 week DMZ/Tren run. I am seriously open to guinea pigging this on a hardcore run if I can get a comped bottle.
 
I know what you mean, I'm 31. Have you thought about trying out a serm since you aren't bouncing back as quick?
 
yates84 said:
I know what you mean, I'm 31. Have you thought about trying out a serm since you aren't bouncing back as quick?
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It might have just been the DMZ- it was my first time with the compound, and I didn't run a test base. I run 4 cycles a year and it was honestly the first time I had any signs of severe shutdown in 7 years of PH use. I honestly don't have full trust in RC's, that is the main reason I don't use them- and my liver takes enough beating for 6/7 weeks, I'd rather it not take anymore from running a serm afterward. Just my opinion...to each their own though.
 
3pic_B3ast said:
Recovery without a Serm is certainly possible for most people. But you will recover much faster with a serm. And always better safe.

That being said I purchased Rebirth for my Osta only cycle. I will be reporting back. Whether we believe in it or not at this point I think we will all learn something if people report back with experiences.
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very interested in seeing if Rebirth has what it takes to be trusted for a pct without a traditional serm. thinking ostarine is a perfect lower-risk trial... was already planning on doing my own osta run around april or may this year. looking forward to seeing your results before then!
 
What i dont get is that most people talk about using this WITH clomid. What is the point in that? This stuff either works or it doesnt. If it works, then run it solo. If it doesn't, then waste your money by running it with a tried and true serm like clomid. Clomid works great on its own and there is no need whatsoever to run this with it. I thought the whole point in making an otc serm was so that you wouldn't have to run a pharma or RC chem?? If that IS the point and this stuff does indeed work, then run it SOLO. You cant run clomid plus this stuff and know if its working at all..its not scientifically possible.
 
barrymcokiner said:
I am really interested in seeing how you recover. I wish you were running something more suppressive than Osta to see if it really works on a hardcore cycle like a 6 week DMZ/Tren run. I am seriously open to guinea pigging this on a hardcore run if I can get a comped bottle.
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Someone else can be your huckleberry. Not worth the risk considering how new this is.
 
anabolix said:
What i dont get is that most people talk about using this WITH clomid. What is the point in that? This stuff either works or it doesnt. If it works, then run it solo. If it doesn't, then waste your money by running it with a tried and true serm like clomid. Clomid works great on its own and there is no need whatsoever to run this with it. I thought the whole point in making an otc serm was so that you wouldn't have to run a pharma or RC chem?? If that IS the point and this stuff does indeed work, then run it SOLO. You cant run clomid plus this stuff and know if its working at all..its not scientifically possible.
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If I recall correctly, clomid was preferred but people were so afraid of sides that they reduced clomid dosage and added nolva to offset the difference. Nothing bad happened so that strategy persisted. But I also remember getting advice for 2-3x dosage that is typical now and to only use SERMs if PCT isn't going well. I am really hoping this product does well just because I have old stigmas ingrained in my mind but do not intend to run enough cycles to get over it.
 
"A man; specif., the exact kind of man needed for a particular purpose. 1936: "Well, I'm your huckleberry, Mr. Haney."

Anyway didn't mean anything by it. Look forward to hearing of your results.
 
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The best! Val's best role. Johnny Ringo crapped his pants! :)

Back OT:

If ReBirth *doesn't* work, can't you just hop on Clomid in a sort of 'Delayed PCT'? Wouldn't it just be like running, say, a twelve week cycle if the OTC SERM doesn't get the boys pumping again? Not ideal, but what exactly is the worst case scenario?
 
Kiss yours gains , good bye . You need to get yours test back asap . Haveing test levels of 13 years girl for 6 or so weeks is a no no ,
 
Canes325 said:
Do you have plans to log it or get bloodwork done? Please update us here when ya do.
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i will be logging it next week and i should be getting blood work done if funds allow it.
I ran Trest, Furazadol & Stano for 8 weeks followed by 4 week bridge of 11 Oxo stacked with EpiAndro
 
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