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sns8778 said:
I think an 8 week break would be fine.

There are also a lot of other great things I would love to see you run in that break, that you could also start during PCT, that I think you would be very happy with.
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Would AE from CEL be one of those great things? Looks beneficial for when that tyme comes!
 
sns8778 said:
A big thing to note when looking at Arachidonic Acid in general is the percentage of active ingredients.

Anything in a capsule form is going to be a 10%, and to Raze's credit, at least they admit that.

The 40% is an oil so it would be in softgels, like X-Gels.

For comparison sake, 1,000 mg. of 10% like in the product this thread is about would equal 100 mg. active Arachidonic Acid.

X-Gels - each softgel is 625 mg. total at 40% for 250 mg. per softgel and most people use 4 to 6 softgels per day.
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anyone say above 30 should check their PSA level before dumping a bunch of ARA into their system
 
keemteam said:
anyone say above 30 should check their PSA level before dumping a bunch of ARA into their system
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I think context is important when making statements like that.

Arachidonic Acid does not cause prostate issues, which one could be lead to believe by the way the post was phrased.

However, I believe what you're likely referring to is that the Arachidonic Acid pathway in the body, may contribute to accelerating the growth of various cancers in people that already have cancer (including prostate cancer). This is true with many different pathways in the body, and bottom line is that no one with any type of cancer should use supplements without first consulting their physician.

Arachidonic Acid (ARA) is a very popular supplement here on Anabolic Minds and has been for many years.

If you follow my posts or look back on my post history, you'll see that it isn't one that I talk about much or one that I can take myself because I have an autoimmune condition and my inflammation markers run super high to begin with. Odds are my ARA levels in my bloodwork run higher than a normal person's would when they were supplementing with ARA - which is definitely not a good thing, and why I don't use ARA personally.

Which leads me to my other point here - I never told him to take Arachidonic Acid to begin with.

One of the supplements that he mentioned already has Arachidonic Acid in it and I simply pointed out something to him so that he (and others reading) can know what to look for when reading supplement facts in order to know exactly how much they are getting. People very often get confused by looking at the labeling on ARA supplements.

Here's a walk through on that:
  • For example, on the one that he mentioned, the supplement facts shows - Arachidonic Acid 10% - 1,000 mg.
  • Many people read that and think that there is 1,000 mg. of actual ARA when there is really only 100 mg. of actual ARA.
  • The significance of that is that the common dosage of Arachidonic Acid used by weight training individuals is 1,000 mg., but that is of actual Arachidonic Acid.
  • Arachidonic Acid in regular capsule form is 10% active ARA, so one would have to consume 10,000 mg. of Arachidonic Acid 10% to get the actual dose of 1,000 mg. active ARA.
  • Which is why I pointed out that most people that know what they are looking for choose to use a 40% Arachidonic Acid, which is an oil form so it would be in a softgel, like X-Gels.
  • X-Gels contains 625 mg. per softgel of 40% Arachidonic Acid for 250 mg. actual ARA per softgel.

I explain things like this on here in order to help people - it's one's own personal decision whether to supplement with Arachidonic Acid, but if someone wants to, its important for them to understand how to properly read the labels and get what they're paying for and not be accidentally taking a tenth of the dosage that they think they are.
 
p4pbeast said:
Would AE from CEL be one of those great things? Looks beneficial for when that tyme comes!
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Anabolic Effect is a great product. I really like using Anabolic Effect for a minimum of 12 to 16 weeks because it really starts to kick in great around week 3 and gets better each week. That's why a lot of people that plan long cycles will start using it at the beginning or midway through their Stano-Plex cycles.

Anabolic XT is another product I think you would really enjoy and it makes for a great stack with Anabolic Effect.

There have been numerous people on here that have posted about how they've stacked those two and gotten better gains in their PCT than they even did on mild cycles.
 
sns8778 said:
Anabolic Effect is a great product. I really like using Anabolic Effect for a minimum of 12 to 16 weeks because it really starts to kick in great around week 3 and gets better each week. That's why a lot of people that plan long cycles will start using it at the beginning or midway through their Stano-Plex cycles.

Anabolic XT is another product I think you would really enjoy and it makes for a great stack with Anabolic Effect.

There have been numerous people on here that have posted about how they've stacked those two and gotten better gains in their PCT than they even did on mild cycles.
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I may add one of these two to my upcoming run! Ill be checking out more reviews and info on both products.
 
p4pbeast said:
I may add one of these two to my upcoming run! Ill be checking out more reviews and info on both products.
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You can find a lot of reviews on both here.

Here are the links to the master threads on them:

Unanswered - CEL Anabolic Effect - Natural Anabolic - AnabolicMinds.com

Updated: For full Anabolic Effect write up, renders, and details, you can go to page 12 and start at post 580: Invalid Link Removed Anabolic Effect will be available Tuesday, July 9th, 2019. Anabolic Effect The Ultimate Natural Anabolic Powerhouse We've always been a company that is...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com

SNS Anabolic XT - Hardcore Natural Anabolic Muscle Builder - AnabolicMinds.com

Hardcore Natural Anabolic Muscle Builder Powered by Natural Phytoandrogens Lean Muscle, Strength, Fat Loss, Improved Body-Composition, Endurance, Libido, & More Invalid Link Removed Anabolic XT is a hardcore natural anabolic formula backed by clinically researched key ingredients...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com

Here's a link to a great log going now of someone that has used them and is stacking them now:

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sns8778 said:
I think context is important when making statements like that.

Arachidonic Acid does not cause prostate issues, which one could be lead to believe by the way the post was phrased.

However, I believe what you're likely referring to is that the Arachidonic Acid pathway in the body, may contribute to accelerating the growth of various cancers in people that already have cancer (including prostate cancer). This is true with many different pathways in the body, and bottom line is that no one with any type of cancer should use supplements without first consulting their physician.

Arachidonic Acid (ARA) is a very popular supplement here on Anabolic Minds and has been for many years.

If you follow my posts or look back on my post history, you'll see that it isn't one that I talk about much or one that I can take myself because I have an autoimmune condition and my inflammation markers run super high to begin with. Odds are my ARA levels in my bloodwork run higher than a normal person's would when they were supplementing with ARA - which is definitely not a good thing, and why I don't use ARA personally.

Which leads me to my other point here - I never told him to take Arachidonic Acid to begin with.

One of the supplements that he mentioned already has Arachidonic Acid in it and I simply pointed out something to him so that he (and others reading) can know what to look for when reading supplement facts in order to know exactly how much they are getting. People very often get confused by looking at the labeling on ARA supplements.

Here's a walk through on that:
  • For example, on the one that he mentioned, the supplement facts shows - Arachidonic Acid 10% - 1,000 mg.
  • Many people read that and think that there is 1,000 mg. of actual ARA when there is really only 100 mg. of actual ARA.
  • The significance of that is that the common dosage of Arachidonic Acid used by weight training individuals is 1,000 mg., but that is of actual Arachidonic Acid.
  • Arachidonic Acid in regular capsule form is 10% active ARA, so one would have to consume 10,000 mg. of Arachidonic Acid 10% to get the actual dose of 1,000 mg. active ARA.
  • Which is why I pointed out that most people that know what they are looking for choose to use a 40% Arachidonic Acid, which is an oil form so it would be in a softgel, like X-Gels.
  • X-Gels contains 625 mg. per softgel of 40% Arachidonic Acid for 250 mg. actual ARA per softgel.
I explain things like this on here in order to help people - it's one's own personal decision whether to supplement with Arachidonic Acid, but if someone wants to, its important for them to understand how to properly read the labels and get what they're paying for and not be accidentally taking a tenth of the dosage that they think they are.
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I concur- I was merely suggesting that since Prostate cancer is usually insidious that one obtain a PSA to ensure that there is no risk of exacerbating a malignancy- ARA is known to be a pathway that increases metastatic risk
 
keemteam said:
I concur- I was merely suggesting that since Prostate cancer is usually insidious that one obtain a PSA to ensure that there is no risk of exacerbating a malignancy- ARA is known to be a pathway that increases metastatic risk
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Oh, please....

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"LA and AA intakes were unrelated to the risk of prostate cancer. "

"No clear risk factor patterns were observed for LA and AA. "

"In contrast, LA and AA were unrelated to risk of total prostate cancer. "

"LA and AA showed no association with risk of advanced prostate cancer. "

" We, as did others (Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed), observed no association with AA. "

"In summary, our results suggest that a high ALA intake is associated with an increased risk of advanced prostate cancer. In contrast, high EPA and DHA intakes may be associated with a decreased risk of total and advanced prostate cancer. Because the apparent adverse effect of ALA on risk of advanced prostate cancer may counter the reduction in cardiovascular disease that may be achieved through ALA use (Invalid Link Removed), further research in men is imperative to resolve the relation of ALA to prostate cancer and to determine the risk-benefit tradeoffs associated with dietary intake of ALA (Invalid Link Removed). "

So the LARGEST to date study on fatty acids and their influence on prostate cancer, in which they studied:
"A cohort of 47 866 US men aged 40–75 y with no cancer history in 1986 was followed for 14 y."

DID NOT FIND ARA/AA to be an issue what so ever. This combined with the fleet of lawyers that Cargill has protecting them from any liability is about as close to iron clad proof one can get that this is not an issue.


That being said it's always a good idea for all males to ensure their prostate is healthy, I personally check hourly, but that's just me.
 
Just wanted to drop in again and thank you guys for helping me see the light in the marketing of how some companies sell epiandro but use the names of "real compounds". Ive seen some products twice the cost of stano-plex300 and epiandro300 that are severely underdosed by comparison! No hate to those companies, just wanted to share that i respect the insight i received earlier in this thread. Getting close to starting my stano-plex run soon!
 
I went with a 10 week epiandro300/stano-plex300 run. I decided to do a taper up and taper down method. 150mg weeks 1 and week 10. 300mg weeks 2 thru 9


Epiandro300 weeks 1 thru 5, stano-plex300 weeks 6 thru 10 (stano-plex for the addition of vaso6)
Raze Lx3 weeks 4 thru 10
Creatine monohydrate thru entire run (during and post cycle)
I have PCT assist, Mtest, testrol es (GAT sport) to choose from to start at week 10 for at least 5 to 6 weeks.
After that I'll run raze mass caps along with Mtest for 8-10 weeks


Side notes= I have PLENTY of all these supps listed
Training during this run will be an antagonistic split.
It's only been a week, but It feels good just to be back in the gym
and I'm excited about this run.
 
p4pbeast said:
I went with a 10 week epiandro300/stano-plex300 run. I decided to do a taper up and taper down method. 150mg weeks 1 and week 10. 300mg weeks 2 thru 9


Epiandro300 weeks 1 thru 5, stano-plex300 weeks 6 thru 10 (stano-plex for the addition of vaso6)
Raze Lx3 weeks 4 thru 10
Creatine monohydrate thru entire run (during and post cycle)
I have PCT assist, Mtest, testrol es (GAT sport) to choose from to start at week 10 for at least 5 to 6 weeks.
After that I'll run raze mass caps along with Mtest for 8-10 weeks


Side notes= I have PLENTY of all these supps listed
Training during this run will be an antagonistic split.
It's only been a week, but It feels good just to be back in the gym
and I'm excited about this run.
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I'm confused one one thing here - you said you're doing 150 mg.'s weeks 1 and 10, but they are 300 mg. per capsule.

The normal dose on them would be 600 mg. per day, which would be 2 caps per day.
 
Lol, my bad your right! I had that wrong mathematically. It's 1 cap 300mg for weeks 1 and 10 and 2 caps weeks 2 thru 9.
 
Epiandro300/stanoplex update!!! Each lift is getting little better, all day fullness/pumped feeling has been noticeable this past week. Recovery is getting better and starting to see some vascularity. Protein intake is in order, training is going better than planned! I'm feeling good about this run! SNS8778 I wanna thank you again for introducing the great products and thanks to this board for insight and info!
 
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