Dewey99
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Hey yourself! :friday:
Rated PH-17.
- Thread starter AaronJP1
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Hey yourself! :friday:
JR.99
Member
Good bro but F@ck traffic in SoCal it's been 1 1/2 to get to work and back for 9 bucks an hour but it pays so it all good in the neighborhood
I try to go lighter behing the neck 10 to 15 but when I went lighter and higher reps I felt a better pump because i tryed focusing on contraction, form, and momentum so I could increase weight I went to heavy once and my front shoulders where killing me so I don't go all the way down any More but that's just me
I try to go lighter behing the neck 10 to 15 but when I went lighter and higher reps I felt a better pump because i tryed focusing on contraction, form, and momentum so I could increase weight I went to heavy once and my front shoulders where killing me so I don't go all the way down any More but that's just me
AaronJP1
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Valdez said:
I have to be... I felt it would be good to incorporate a varity of exercises. Trust me it's not something I do often. I researched a bit after the feedback in here & found lighter weights is a much better way to go for behind the neck press.
Thx for the concern V Deez.
BTW, AB how's your shoulder? We need to stay injury free out here.
Airborne42
Legend
It's all about dialing in what you want brother its all learning your body!
Shoulder is awesome today... Still sore. I managed to smack the edge of a table with my hand and now all my tendons up to my elbow are sore... More injuries...
Shoulder is awesome today... Still sore. I managed to smack the edge of a table with my hand and now all my tendons up to my elbow are sore... More injuries...
Airborne42
Legend
Valdez said:
:-D
Airborne42
Legend
Valdez said:
Dude... No...
AaronJP1
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Half-Way Mark:
Ok so we are a little bit past the half way point of me using PH-17 & I'll provide you feedback on what I have been noticing and some points.
-Dryness: I think the only things that kept me more dry were Erase Pro & a degree stick.
-Hardness: Noticed a slight hardness to the touch with out flexing. It's slight but it's mildly noticeable.
-Libido: See no issues w/this. I think for maybe a day or two when I was really tired I didn't pay much attention to it but is def not down.
-Vascularity: Seems to come & go mostly after dosing.
-Aggression: Intensity seems to be there in the gym, more often than not. Beat way to describe: It's a feeling of being prepared for what ever life throws @ you.
Leaning out has def happened mirror & scale wise, few spots of acne popped up not much @ all, achy joints are slightly noticeable, strength & gym intensity is still there as I said more often than not, & only other sides I had were a few occasional headaches.
This product seems to produce the effects of cutting, most notably between the dryness & scale weight loss. I can tell leaning out has happened by the way clothing is fitting but diet/training is playing a role in that aspect as well along with the 17.
I shot Airborne & LiveToLife a PM earlier today stating how I was a little "nervous" about the weight loss along with looking & feeling smaller... There's still a long road to go to being lean"er" though.
:bigok:
Ok so we are a little bit past the half way point of me using PH-17 & I'll provide you feedback on what I have been noticing and some points.
-Dryness: I think the only things that kept me more dry were Erase Pro & a degree stick.
-Hardness: Noticed a slight hardness to the touch with out flexing. It's slight but it's mildly noticeable.
-Libido: See no issues w/this. I think for maybe a day or two when I was really tired I didn't pay much attention to it but is def not down.
-Vascularity: Seems to come & go mostly after dosing.
-Aggression: Intensity seems to be there in the gym, more often than not. Beat way to describe: It's a feeling of being prepared for what ever life throws @ you.
Leaning out has def happened mirror & scale wise, few spots of acne popped up not much @ all, achy joints are slightly noticeable, strength & gym intensity is still there as I said more often than not, & only other sides I had were a few occasional headaches.
This product seems to produce the effects of cutting, most notably between the dryness & scale weight loss. I can tell leaning out has happened by the way clothing is fitting but diet/training is playing a role in that aspect as well along with the 17.
I shot Airborne & LiveToLife a PM earlier today stating how I was a little "nervous" about the weight loss along with looking & feeling smaller... There's still a long road to go to being lean"er" though.
:bigok:
Piston Honda
Well-known member
AaronJP1 said:
Encouraging news for my own cycle coming up. Keep on truckin'!
Airborne42
Legend
Just look at it like progress! You can always bulk up
TheHardOne
Well-known member
To build lots of muscles
TurningGreen
Well-known member
Awesome halfway report bro, Im sold!
LiveToLift
Legend
Awesome midway review brosef! Sounds on point with my results when running 5aohp. Good stuff!
bmftisftw
Banned
So do you still feel as strong with the weight loss/getting leaner? Nice halfway point bro sorry I havent been in for a few days had to be on duty for a few days haha
LiveToLift
Legend
8-10 spilt 4 times a day
Budman7811
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That's a good weight, solid for sure.
All in due time. Hot my BMI back 26.4 not to shabby. Though because she added 4" on my height I am sure it is a bit off. I did have above average Creatine scores. Must be the Creatine supp I am taking, ya think.
All in due time. Hot my BMI back 26.4 not to shabby. Though because she added 4" on my height I am sure it is a bit off. I did have above average Creatine scores. Must be the Creatine supp I am taking, ya think.
Budman7811
Well-known member
purelife2 said:
Yes but if reading the effects of this he should be losing bodyfat but still put on muscle. That's what it looked like to me. I could be wrong, tht something that at the end we should be able to gauge.
AJP did you get a body fat analysis beforehand?
purelife2
Member
i think he is just using mirror to judge his progress..im taking half the dose he is and my weight goes up and down slightly..i judge by the mirror as well
xR1pp3Rx
Legend
so AJ i assume youre trying to lose some weight thus why you chose to run the 17.. that said.. hows your strength maintained and by chance did you do a body fat test prior to your start? im curious if your maintaining you mass or not. 5lbs down is nice and all but only if your keeping your mass at the same time. please share with us your take on my questions.
Airborne42
Legend
Damn dude Hella stacked!!! Tatters up too?
bmftisftw
Banned
DAMN DUDE!!
AaronJP1
Board Sponsor
Thx AB & Dan, trying to get swole like you two big freaks.
Day 21:
Chest & Biceps (yup changed up the format a bit)
Training:
Came in started my warm up on inclines, then a guy who is about 250 I talk to quite often comes in & we start rolling together. No #'s cause I was following his lead & we wasn't bullshyting around with the cell phones.
I know think a week or two back I hit 235 on incline (have to check how many reps) but max weight used for me was 225 for 5 reps today, we rocked out a ton of sets. Then we moved to HS incline press, then hit decline barbell, then rocked out biceps with hammers, e z bar curls, & HS curl machine, & seated DB curls. Fun day pumped to all get out too.
Diet:
Got a bit rocky over the weekend & today, getting it back in line, pre meal was baked chicken mixed w/white & sweet potatoes.
Notes:
Think this is the part everyone has been waiting for....
I am keeping my strength for sure, I hit a few PRs along the way not many, but some. I'm moving the same weight as previous weeks on most exercises if not slightly more. Cals have not been excess either.
With the body fat, I didn't get measurements, I'll be honest I didn't expect for things to go as well as they have been with the 17 & my log, but as the days go buy changes are becoming more noticeable. I feel body fat has been reduced more simply off the fact that strength is being maintained if not exceeded (at the very least).
I am vascular (not 24-7) but it shows, I am leaner per mirror & scale, & I hold one nasty pump.
Also I do feel like I am keeping mass, being 185 @ 5' 10" roughly I looked pretty stacked in my eyes, most people think I weigh 200, not shredded by any means, but we are headed to a bigger leaner me.
I think 17 is very promising Ripper.
Proper diet & exercise is a must too though, I don't want people thinking they are going to swallow 17 & oh drop pounds, tweak some variables people should be happy with the results. Libido is still on strong too.
Day 21:
Chest & Biceps (yup changed up the format a bit)
Training:
Came in started my warm up on inclines, then a guy who is about 250 I talk to quite often comes in & we start rolling together. No #'s cause I was following his lead & we wasn't bullshyting around with the cell phones.
I know think a week or two back I hit 235 on incline (have to check how many reps) but max weight used for me was 225 for 5 reps today, we rocked out a ton of sets. Then we moved to HS incline press, then hit decline barbell, then rocked out biceps with hammers, e z bar curls, & HS curl machine, & seated DB curls. Fun day pumped to all get out too.
Diet:
Got a bit rocky over the weekend & today, getting it back in line, pre meal was baked chicken mixed w/white & sweet potatoes.
Notes:
Think this is the part everyone has been waiting for....
I am keeping my strength for sure, I hit a few PRs along the way not many, but some. I'm moving the same weight as previous weeks on most exercises if not slightly more. Cals have not been excess either.
With the body fat, I didn't get measurements, I'll be honest I didn't expect for things to go as well as they have been with the 17 & my log, but as the days go buy changes are becoming more noticeable. I feel body fat has been reduced more simply off the fact that strength is being maintained if not exceeded (at the very least).
I am vascular (not 24-7) but it shows, I am leaner per mirror & scale, & I hold one nasty pump.
Also I do feel like I am keeping mass, being 185 @ 5' 10" roughly I looked pretty stacked in my eyes, most people think I weigh 200, not shredded by any means, but we are headed to a bigger leaner me.
I think 17 is very promising Ripper.
Proper diet & exercise is a must too though, I don't want people thinking they are going to swallow 17 & oh drop pounds, tweak some variables people should be happy with the results. Libido is still on strong too.
Airborne42
Legend
Well bro your not small by any means! Have u measured your arms?