quick question about epi pulse pct

JudoJosh

JudoJosh

Pro Virili Parte
So I am planning my next PH (been over a year since my last one which was hdrol).

I was wondering if you guys think prime with powerfull would be good enough for a test booster for my pct?

Also I have a bottle of recycle I was going to use. I have seen it used before with a epi pulse so I was considering it but I am thinking about getting some clomid for just peace of mind.

Any thoughts?
 
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Well I have been doing some ready and thinking and this is what I have planned so far. Would Really appreasiate some feedback

epi pulse: 3x a week
week1: 10/20/20
week2: 30/30/30
week3-8: 40/40/40 (Maybe take it up to 50, will see how I feel)

During cycle
Cycle support
low dose DHEA (25-50 mg) in the morning and again in the mid afternoon 4 cort control and libido
taurine for pumps
cissus rx for joint support and cort supress
creatine mono
erase – test boost/cort

Staples
Xtend for pre/intra/post workout
fish oil
zinc before bed
yellow gold

PCT
Recycle - PCT supp
Prime/powerfull for helping towards test boost
Cissus rx for cort suppression and joint support
Anabolic pump
Oep
jacked

Also I am thinking of getting some clomid for "just in case" but I dont think I should need it. I am concerned if prime/powerfull will be sufficient for boosting test post cycle. The USP combo stacked with recycle should boost my test back up right?
 
1. prime and powerfull won't raise your test back up.

2. why are you taking a fat burner (OEP) to help you lose your gains in PCT?

3. epistane is not a PH - it is a fully active steroid.

4. get some clomid ( low dose it )
 
soontobbeast said:
1. prime and powerfull won't raise your test back up.

2. why are you taking a fat burner (OEP) to help you lose your gains in PCT?

3. epistane is not a PH - it is a fully active steroid.

4. get some clomid ( low dose it )
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1. Thanks, this is what I wasn't sure about.

2. I didn't think OEP would contribute towards loosing muscle mass. I was planning on taking OEP to help with fat loss in PCT. I am not too concerned with my scale weight if I gain 7lbs and then loose 7lbs in PCT is not my concern really but if my bench, DL, Squat, etc all go up and stay up during PCT is what I want. I want more of a recomp I figured OEP would help with this. If I am wrong please let me know, this was just what I was thinking.

4. I will have clomid on hand but considering it is a pulse cycle and epi is fairly mild and I have seen logs, specifically an epi pusle with recycle used as PCT, I am fiarly confident that recycle would be good enough. (Invalid Link Removed) Again I am not going to depend on it so I will have clomid on hand.

Thanks for your input. I do not own the erase product I listed yet. It is on sale so I was thinking of picking a bottle up and using it during cycle to keep test up. I was also considering trying out blue up stim free for during cycle maybe I will just get the blue up and using it post cycle and save the prime and powerfull for another time
 
Hey Judo,

First off sorry it took me a bit to get to this, I have been pretty busy between work and the big primordial sale.

Here are my thoughts, and it will come with a disclaimer. I am not a fan of the pulsing method, I always saw it as do a cycle or don't. If your not looking for all the gains that come with a compound, do a weaker compound, if you dont want all the sides of a compound, do a less harsh compound. But thats my opinion and many disagree with me, so I won't tell you not to pulse.

I agree that Prime and Powerfull are not a PCT. Now I am a fan of throw in anything you got on PCT to help solidify the gains, but these are additions to PCT, not a replacement. If you have the clomid, use it. You could as soontob mentioned low dose it. If you want to avoid a SERM and save it in case you feel you need it and remain OTC, then I would recomend grabbing the TRS. This is not me just pushing our products, it honestly would be significantly more beneficial to your recovery then the Prime/Powerful situation. Now I am not sure how much a pulse effects hormone regulation when compared to a normal cycle, but I would bet it still has a decent enough effect to make sure you take care of yourself in PCT.

Edit: I just noticed that you mentioned you have Recycle, this would be better then the Prime/Powerful, not as rounded as the TRS, but in a pulse situation it might be enough, I am a non-bull****ter, so when I say I don't know about pulses, I mean it, and I would get other opinions as well.

Drop the OEP in general. The only time I would say a product like OEP should fit into a PCT is if it was a total cut cycle, but even then, I would advise against it. Its not that OEP is a bad product (I have heard good things), its that PCT should be all about solidifying your gains. I know you are not concerned with weight, but if you are losing muscle, you will lose strength.

If I missed anything, let me know...or follow up questions, etc...
 
Why don't you do a 4week pulse
According to dr.d's write up on how to pulse orals
A conventional post cycle therapy won't be required from your typical 4 week pulse, if you are doing 6 - 8 weeks pulse and want the pct
Then why not just do the normal cycle bro?
 
HereToStudy said:
Hey Judo,

First off sorry it took me a bit to get to this, I have been pretty busy between work and the big primordial sale.

Here are my thoughts, and it will come with a disclaimer. I am not a fan of the pulsing method, I always saw it as do a cycle or don't. If your not looking for all the gains that come with a compound, do a weaker compound, if you dont want all the sides of a compound, do a less harsh compound. But thats my opinion and many disagree with me, so I won't tell you not to pulse.

I agree that Prime and Powerfull are not a PCT. Now I am a fan of throw in anything you got on PCT to help solidify the gains, but these are additions to PCT, not a replacement. If you have the clomid, use it. You could as soontob mentioned low dose it. If you want to avoid a SERM and save it in case you feel you need it and remain OTC, then I would recomend grabbing the TRS. This is not me just pushing our products, it honestly would be significantly more beneficial to your recovery then the Prime/Powerful situation. Now I am not sure how much a pulse effects hormone regulation when compared to a normal cycle, but I would bet it still has a decent enough effect to make sure you take care of yourself in PCT.

Edit: I just noticed that you mentioned you have Recycle, this would be better then the Prime/Powerful, not as rounded as the TRS, but in a pulse situation it might be enough, I am a non-bull****ter, so when I say I don't know about pulses, I mean it, and I would get other opinions as well.

Drop the OEP in general. The only time I would say a product like OEP should fit into a PCT is if it was a total cut cycle, but even then, I would advise against it. Its not that OEP is a bad product (I have heard good things), its that PCT should be all about solidifying your gains. I know you are not concerned with weight, but if you are losing muscle, you will lose strength.

If I missed anything, let me know...or follow up questions, etc...
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I wasnt depending on the prime and powerfull on my sole test booster. The recycle should take good care of my needs and I was throwing in the prime and powerfull in for just good measure. I'll cut the OEP from the plan. I might just run it now and do the epi later. I wanted to pulse to avoid a SERM but I am leaning to just doing a regular cycle. Thanks for your imput and congrats on the rep position.. I never noticed it before
 
Id say up the dose of the pulse if that is what u decide to do. If u start experiencing problems lower the dose. I wouldnt suggest Erase during ur cycle maybe part of ur PCT starting week 3. Recycle is good but I would still low dose the clomid especially if u already have it. Like others Im going to suggest dropping the OEP if u need an energy boost thats what Jack3d is for. Id like to see something for ur "off" days during ur pulse. Something I would suggest is Forma-Stanzol or Sustain Alpha. Adding a pump of SA to my balls this cycle has seemed to help with atrophy. U could use the Forma-Stanzol everyday of ur pulse which is what I did with my 6-bromo product.

Best of luck my friend and glad to see u back. I hope u have been keeping up with ur work outs.
 
okay okay you guys convinced me. Thanks for all the input. My problem was I was trying to be cheap and use stuff I already had. I have some SA from a sale they had but was saving it to take wit 1T. I am not in a rush to run this cycle so Ima just wait and do it later. I have been gone for awhile and I feel stupid when it comes to cycles now. Workouts have been going good.. been doing 531. About to start tates stronger 3 phase program. Ima just do the USP stack with OEP for now. I am leaning towards the TRS, I had always thought it looked expensive but now when I consider it, it seems well worth it. Thanks for all the input guys!!
 
JudoJosh said:
okay okay you guys convinced me. Thanks for all the input. My problem was I was trying to be cheap and use stuff I already had. I have some SA from a sale they had but was saving it to take wit 1T. I am not in a rush to run this cycle so Ima just wait and do it later. I have been gone for awhile and I feel stupid when it comes to cycles now. Workouts have been going good.. been doing 531. About to start tates stronger 3 phase program. Ima just do the USP stack with OEP for now. I am leaning towards the TRS, I had always thought it looked expensive but now when I consider it, it seems well worth it. Thanks for all the input guys!!
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Anytime.

And I feel you on the trying to use what you got and save the cash option. I am pretty tight on cash at most points, so I am always trying to cut corners. What I learned is it is always best to wait, save up, and do it right.
 
HereToStudy said:
Anytime.

And I feel you on the trying to use what you got and save the cash option. I am pretty tight on cash at most points, so I am always trying to cut corners. What I learned is it is always best to wait, save up, and do it right.
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With TRS I could run a full cycle and I would not need a serm? Would I need anything in the PCT or does TRS cover all bases?
 
JudoJosh said:
With TRS I could run a full cycle and I would not need a serm? Would I need anything in the PCT or does TRS cover all bases?
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Depends how cautious you are. I am overly cautious, so even on my Turinabol/Andro, I am running the TRS with Clomid (Really could get away with just TRS). The TRS is very well designed though to cover all angles of a PCT. It reallly would come down to your dosage. If you choose just to do OTC, I would consider adding in TCF-1.

Anything you would add on top would just be a bonus. For example, I have a decent amount of I-GF2 left, so I will most likely take that as well. I like the more the merrier approach as long as it is something that would not interfere with recovery (aka another hormonal product). Will also probably use all my staples (Creatine/GPLC/FishOil/Multi)
 
So I was at work and was thining about my current supps that I own and thought of this combo. How does it look?

Epi pulse- same as first post
Sustain Alpha on off days (I have the topical one)
and for PCT - Recycle along with supress-c for cort control and 6-bromo to help recycle raise the test back up.

Look good? I also have some topical dermacrine but I think the above covers everything pretty nicely. (I had completely forgotten I had the 6 bromo and supress-c, which means I have too many stored supps in my closet ;) )

Again will order clomid to have on hand for in case but would really perfer not to use it.
 
JudoJosh said:
So I was at work and was thining about my current supps that I own and thought of this combo. How does it look?

Epi pulse- same as first post
Sustain Alpha on off days (I have the topical one)
and for PCT - Recycle along with supress-c for cort control and 6-bromo to help recycle raise the test back up.

Look good? I also have some topical dermacrine but I think the above covers everything pretty nicely. (I had completely forgotten I had the 6 bromo and supress-c, which means I have too many stored supps in my closet ;) )

Again will order clomid to have on hand for in case but would really perfer not to use it.
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I would think that the sustain in between a epi pulse should make PCT relatively easier. Having the clomid on hand is a good call, but really only bloodwork will tell you if you are recovered or not.
 
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