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Xenabuffyfan said:
Thanks for the advice man. Yeah I started kind of a recomp/cut on the 1st of April using Epi (30mg), Furazadrol (200mg), 11 oxo (6 caps) and the ec stack. I've done this stack before, last year, loved it and had no problem. Now, I'm having headaches and nausea but I can't tell if it's due to a stomach bug that's going around, or high bp symptoms so I figured the celery seed would be the determining factor.
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yea that stack sounds soo yummy!!! im on epi now just finished week 4 and i bumped it to 40mg, i think imma go another 2 weeks, my bloods came back legit so i think i may stay on for another week to benifit from the recomp.

im not a fan of EC stack, but i love clen. BP can cause those head ache problems, but the ephedra i believe can cause a little bit of the nausau do to the stimulatory effects.

i like using garlique for BP as well. works quite well. althoguh my BP on epi is 122/80
 
hey guys,

Im just checking in on you to see how everyones diet and training are going? has anyone used any AI supplements lately? this thread can also be used as feedback, if you have any feedback on products that youve used let us know!!!

ElementTrip: Hows that diet treating you right now?
 
It is a yummy stack isn't it? I hadn't thought of the garlique, but I heard the celery seed's effect is immediate so I'm gonna pick some up today. Usually the nausea is a side effect of high bp so I'm hoping when it lowers, the nausea will dissipate.

Clen is much superior and I have some on stock but the EC is good for now for it's appetite suppressing effect. I might save the clen for pct. I've never used it in a pct before and some use it with great success.

Glad to hear your epi cycle is going well. :-)
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
It is a yummy stack isn't it? I hadn't thought of the garlique, but I heard the celery seed's effect is immediate so I'm gonna pick some up today. Usually the nausea is a side effect of high bp so I'm hoping when it lowers, the nausea will dissipate.

Clen is much superior and I have some on stock but the EC is good for now for it's appetite suppressing effect. I might save the clen for pct. I've never used it in a pct before and some use it with great success.

Glad to hear your epi cycle is going well. :-)
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From a couple of aricles I have read, its stated that albuterol is far better for shedding fat and maintainig LBM than clen, also its less harsh on the body, however the half-life is less than clen.
 
andrew732 said:
From a couple of aricles I have read, its stated that albuterol is far better for shedding fat and maintainig LBM than clen, also its less harsh on the body, however the half-life is less than clen.
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nonsense poopy ponts lol ! alb is def safer, but absolutly no where near as effective, ive used both, clen=superior

theres a study showing that it works better in gaining muscle which is also awesome.
 
I agree. Clen rocks. I have to say though I have yet to experience negative clen side effects other than the sweats and shaking like Whitney Houston on a crack bend. Otherwise, nothing bad heart-wise or cramping. Doesn't affect my sleeping but if it ever did on a rare occasion, about 50 mg of Benadryl takes care of that.

I dose Clen once a day and I'm good to go.
 
On a side note, got the celery seed, took some. BIG improvement. For me, this is way better than Hawthorn for any guy out there with a blood pressure issue. All of the head pounding and nausea went away.
Can't ready to get back on the horse tomorrow morning.
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
On a side note, got the celery seed, took some. BIG improvement. For me, this is way better than Hawthorn for any guy out there with a blood pressure issue. All of the head pounding and nausea went away.
Can't ready to get back on the horse tomorrow morning.
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glad to hear it worked man!!! keep us informed, maybe some before and after pix?
 
crazyfool405 said:
nonsense poopy ponts lol ! alb is def safer, but absolutly no where near as effective, ive used both, clen=superior

theres a study showing that it works better in gaining muscle which is also awesome.
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Interesting, because my neighbor has used both and has preferd alb to clen, I guess it depends on the individual, results say everything. Call me poops for the day, LOL.
 
crazyfool405 said:
hey guys,

Im just checking in on you to see how everyones diet and training are going? has anyone used any AI supplements lately? this thread can also be used as feedback, if you have any feedback on products that youve used let us know!!!

ElementTrip: Hows that diet treating you right now?
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I'm running ATD currently and im looking dryer than i ought to at my bf so i like it!
 
elementrip said:
I'm running ATD currently and im looking dryer than i ought to at my bf so i like it!
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To be honest I love ATD as well, 6-bromo and ATD are my favs, although I am yet to try formenstane, so I shall see if it differs over time.
 
Any new information out there as to whether ATD is a selective androgen receptor blocker or a TOTAL one? I know there was controversy over that for a while from the "NO ATD" crowd. Who knows, they could have a valid point, but I haven't found anything conclusive yet.
 
I will definitely keep you informed. I need to get a new camera because my old one got wet at Disney last year and broke, but maybe I can use the cell cam if the picture comes out clear.

Either way, I'll let you know how this stack did for me.
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
Any new information out there as to whether ATD is a selective androgen receptor blocker or a TOTAL one? I know there was controversy over that for a while from the "NO ATD" crowd. Who knows, they could have a valid point, but I haven't found anything conclusive yet.
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Its excellent overall especially administered in an eod dosing. Altho it acts as an antiandrogen in certain tissues I know it can aid recovery. I know the great dr d agrees as well. Ill post up what he said a little later.

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Xenabuffyfan said:
Any new information out there as to whether ATD is a selective androgen receptor blocker or a TOTAL one? I know there was controversy over that for a while from the "NO ATD" crowd. Who knows, they could have a valid point, but I haven't found anything conclusive yet.
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Straight for dr d

Androgen suppresses LH. Anti-As turn on LH, just likr anti-e turns on FSH. Most people thing that estrogen inhibits LH (and it does) but it inhibits FHS more. DHT is what inhibits LH the most.

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crazyfool405 said:
Straight for dr d

Androgen suppresses LH. Anti-As turn on LH, just likr anti-e turns on FSH. Most people thing that estrogen inhibits LH (and it does) but it inhibits FHS more. DHT is what inhibits LH the most.

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So my running ATD EOD at 50mg isnt bad for my test e in running then, or the finavol?
 
Crazy.... I recently purchased m-drol. but have been reading that its not a good first cycle. So what would be a better first cycle p-plex,h-drol or e-stane. I want to gain some mass and lower my bf.
 
morbo said:
Crazy.... I recently purchased m-drol. but have been reading that its not a good first cycle. So what would be a better first cycle p-plex,h-drol or e-stane. I want to gain some mass and lower my bf.
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You definitely want to start of with H-drol or The One due to their low toxicity and great leaning properties. They both can give one, especially a newbie about 10-12lbs of LBM within a month with strength gains. I recommend CS while on it to be on the safe side. All ph's and AAS can cause side effects, both compounds have good A:A ratios. Preload CS 2 weeks before the cycle at a scoop a day, then 2 scoops (1am and 1pm) during your cycle. Both compounds do not require one to use a SERM during pct. Any more question feel free to pm me or just post questions on this thread, either way we are here to help.
 
Thanx. Andrew.. Well I am excited about my first run. Ill order up some Hdrol. Any advice on intake (how many mg a day and how many weeks)...and a good CS.
 
morbo said:
Thanx. Andrew.. Well I am excited about my first run. Ill order up some Hdrol. Any advice on intake (how many mg a day and how many weeks)...and a good CS.
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CS stands for Cycle Support made by Anabolic Innovations. As for dosages, see how 25mgs treats you, if no sides within the first 7 days bump up to 50mg, if no sides in the second week; bump up to 75mg for the rest of the cycle. The cycle can go for 4-6 weeks, depends on how one feels. I will be here for questions during your cycle, no worries bro, health comes first.
 
morbo said:
Thanx. Andrew.. Well I am excited about my first run. Ill order up some Hdrol. Any advice on intake (how many mg a day and how many weeks)...and a good CS.
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This would be a much better cycle for you than a m-drol for a first cycle. The Post Cycle Support is perfect for a h-drol only cycle.
 
Hdrol depending on ur weight I wouldn't waste my time with 50 mg however general newbie cycle for it is 50 50 75 75 75. Its takes a little to kick in so by week 3 you should feel it. Give us ur stats

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crazyfool405 said:
Hdrol depending on ur weight I wouldn't waste my time with 50 mg however general newbie cycle for it is 50 50 75 75 75. Its takes a little to kick in so by week 3 you should feel it. Give us ur stats

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Very good doage plan for the h-drol.
 
crazyfool405 said:
Its excellent overall especially administered in an eod dosing. Altho it acts as an antiandrogen in certain tissues I know it can aid recovery. I know the great dr d agrees as well. Ill post up what he said a little later.

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Thanks for the info man! I'll definitely be using the Nutraplanet capped ATD along with my nolva for pct.

Do you think with my stack of 30mg epi, 200 furazadrol and 6 caps of 11 oxo, that I'll need to start off with 40 mg of Nolva? Or should I be good with 20 all the 4 weeks (since all 3 at that dose are pretty easy on "shutdown")?
 
crazyfool405 said:
Hdrol depending on ur weight I wouldn't waste my time with 50 mg however general newbie cycle for it is 50 50 75 75 75. Its takes a little to kick in so by week 3 you should feel it. Give us ur stats

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I unfortunately never tried the original Halodrol by Gaspari, I started pro-steroids/prohormones when I turned 21 in 2007.

I did try a clone version of it in January of 2008, "Hemadrol" by (I wanna say...) EST(?).

I was not that impressed, and to be honest it seemed kind of wet (I'm used to/prefer dry compounds). But that could totally be that particular clone and not have any reflection on the other Halodrol compounds out there.

However I doubt I'll try again... I found the love of my pro-hormone life with Epi. LOL
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
Thanks for the ATD info (and reps) man! Appreciate it!
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Anytime bro, do let me know what method you plan on running ATD, there are a couple ways to run it, and there are supps that I recommend to run it with depending on the style you run it.
 
andrew732 said:
Anytime bro, do let me know what method you plan on running ATD, there are a couple ways to run it, and there are supps that I recommend to run it with depending on the style you run it.
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Well alot of people recommend the inverse taper (For anyone reading who doesn't know means decrease SERM while increasing AI) which does make sense, since it's told the increase of LH from the Nolva also causes an increase of estrogen as well...

However even though ATD is advertised as a suicide inhibitor, there are stories of rebound happening if it isn't tapered down.

That being said, I would start with an inverse taper of Nolva and ATD, go up to a max of 75mg (3 caps) and run the ATD two weeks (or three to be thorough) longer in order to taper down slowly and reduce the chance of rebound.

Anyway that's just my 2 cents, but if you have any recommendations yourself on how to run it, I am open to any new suggestions.
 
Yeah..Ill give it a try..mmm. any suggestion on how to take it?
(One pill in the morning with Cycle Assist or Cycle assist then a pill later)
How can i spread the 50 and 75 mg doses since its a couple of pills?
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
Well alot of people recommend the inverse taper (For anyone reading who doesn't know means decrease SERM while increasing AI) which does make sense, since it's told the increase of LH from the Nolva also causes an increase of estrogen as well...

However even though ATD is advertised as a suicide inhibitor, there are stories of rebound happening if it isn't tapered down.

That being said, I would start with an inverse taper of Nolva and ATD, go up to a max of 75mg (3 caps) and run the ATD two weeks (or three to be thorough) longer in order to taper down slowly and reduce the chance of rebound.

Anyway that's just my 2 cents, but if you have any recommendations yourself on how to run it, I am open to any new suggestions.
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id rather see you just do it EOD during your whole PCT, and then the last few days taper down.
 
morbo said:
Yeah..Ill give it a try..mmm. any suggestion on how to take it?
(One pill in the morning with Cycle Assist or Cycle assist then a pill later)
How can i spread the 50 and 75 mg doses since its a couple of pills?
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spread it out evenly every 6-8 hours
 
crazyfool405 said:
id rather see you just do it EOD during your whole PCT, and then the last few days taper down.
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I will definitely try that. I have to say I'm surprised though, I thought (and I could be mistaken) that ATD had a short half-life? Although that could just be its opponents since I haven't found anything officially stating the half life yet.
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
I will definitely try that. I have to say I'm surprised though, I thought (and I could be mistaken) that ATD had a short half-life? Although that could just be its opponents since I haven't found anything officially stating the half life yet.
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That is why I choose Novadex xt as my choice of ATD, look tetra-hypnadrol; allows for slow time :cheers:release effect.
 
crazyfool405 said:
thats fine, the ATD is the same as novedex XT. the other ingredient like i said befor is the 3OHAT
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Thanks! So since you recommend EOD use, should I start at 75mg EOD? Or lower/higher then taper?

P.S. Also I have nutraplanet Divinex as well to start 2 weeks into PCT for SHBG levels. Good quality and is 2 weeks a good starting point?
 
wonder if there was any chance you guys give it out free samples of stoked... looks good but probably not gonna dump 40+ dollars a on something that might not do anything (just looking at other reviews)
 
mweaver84 said:
wonder if there was any chance you guys give it out free samples of stoked... looks good but probably not gonna dump 40+ dollars a on something that might not do anything (just looking at other reviews)
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