Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO
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snagencyV2.0
Legend
absolutely.
you are well within product guidelines for amount/duration of use, and PCT Black is the purrfekt pct for what you plan here.
gibbons2
Member
thanks!
mdks
New member
Need Help For A Newbie Please...
Hi, I am new to this board and I just really need some professional/knowledgeable advice in helping me reach my fitness goals. First off, a little bit about myself. I am 6’2, 205 lbs, 28 years old right now. I have lifted weights throughout my life (averaging 4 times a week). I never did cardio though, only lifted weights to try to add on size. I have always had trouble putting weight on growing up but it was always easy for me to lose weight real fast. Throughout my lifetime the only supplements I have taken are weight gainers bought from local gyms and some creatine back when I was in college about 6-7 years ago. Growing up I could eat unhealthy foods and still not put on too much weight.
In the last year and a half or so I have noticed my metabolism slow down considerably where I was putting weight on (this was fat mostly in my stomach area, not muscle). I started developing a good-sized gut for my body. Because of this I started watching what I was eating and how much I was eating daily. I also started doing more cardio in addition to lifting weights. First time, I’ve ever done cardio in my life. Now I find that it is harder for me to lose the gut. This is a new problem for me.
So a little over a month ago I was suggested to take the Finaflex Pro Xanthine 500-XT which would help me lose the unwanted weight. I started with one pill of this in the morning (just one pill per day) and it was such a strong stimulant/appetite suppressant for me that I didn’t have an appetite ALL DAY and couldn’t really sleep at night because of all the extra energy I had. I would have to do a hardcore workout where I exhausted myself so I could just be tired enough to fall asleep. I was going to quit taking the Pro Xanthine pills because of this, but decided to just lower my doses. Instead of 1 pill/per day as recommended, I started taking 1 pill every three days. I started this 1 pill/every 3 days of Pro Xanthine 500-XT on December 1[SUP]st[/SUP]. I am still currently taking the Pro Xanthine 1 pill every 3 days. My body has seemed to adjust to it and I am losing unwanted fat around my stomach area all the while giving me good energy from the stimulants in the pill. I am happy with this so far. I am still working out lifting weights and doing cardio about 4 times a week. So currently all I take is 1 pill of Pro Xanthine 500-XT once every three days and workout (weights and cardio) about 4 times a week. I no longer take any weight gainers (stopped this over a year ago) because I want to lose the gut I have. I am writing my history because I want to let you know that it seems my body is sensitive to these supplements.
Now I am not a muscular guy. Like I stated earlier, right now I am 6’2, 205 lbs. My ultimate goal is to stay around this weight of 205-210 lbs BUT WITH MUSCLE. The trainer at my gym suggested I take the Finaflex Epi-V because this will not make me gain any weight and at the same time cut me up and turn what my body already has into a cut, muscular physique. But he did say that there are some side affects and that if my body is sensitive to supplements I should take lower doses than recommended. He also said that I should take some “other things” (which I do not know what he means by that) to protect my organs like liver and kidneys and keep my libido up.
So my question is can you advise me if/how I should take the Finaflex Epi-V and what other things I should take with it to keep my organs safe and my libido up.
Or if I should not take the Epi-V at all and if there is something totally different altogether that you suggest I take instead.
My main concern is the health of my organs. Like I said earlier, I want to stay around the same weight I am right now (205-210 lbs) but want to be muscular and cut up. If you recommend the Epi-V, I want to know what is a dosage that is recommended for the Epi-V (for someone like myself who seems to be sensitive to these supplements) and how would I do it in a safe manner. Also, if I were to start the Epi-V do I still continue taking the Pro Xanthine pill once every three days like I currently am? If you can advise me and give me a schedule on what all to take and when to take them I would highly appreciate it. I am sorry for writing so much and asking so many questions, I just really need a professionals help. I want to do things the right and SAFE way for my body. Thank you for all of your help.
Hi, I am new to this board and I just really need some professional/knowledgeable advice in helping me reach my fitness goals. First off, a little bit about myself. I am 6’2, 205 lbs, 28 years old right now. I have lifted weights throughout my life (averaging 4 times a week). I never did cardio though, only lifted weights to try to add on size. I have always had trouble putting weight on growing up but it was always easy for me to lose weight real fast. Throughout my lifetime the only supplements I have taken are weight gainers bought from local gyms and some creatine back when I was in college about 6-7 years ago. Growing up I could eat unhealthy foods and still not put on too much weight.
In the last year and a half or so I have noticed my metabolism slow down considerably where I was putting weight on (this was fat mostly in my stomach area, not muscle). I started developing a good-sized gut for my body. Because of this I started watching what I was eating and how much I was eating daily. I also started doing more cardio in addition to lifting weights. First time, I’ve ever done cardio in my life. Now I find that it is harder for me to lose the gut. This is a new problem for me.
So a little over a month ago I was suggested to take the Finaflex Pro Xanthine 500-XT which would help me lose the unwanted weight. I started with one pill of this in the morning (just one pill per day) and it was such a strong stimulant/appetite suppressant for me that I didn’t have an appetite ALL DAY and couldn’t really sleep at night because of all the extra energy I had. I would have to do a hardcore workout where I exhausted myself so I could just be tired enough to fall asleep. I was going to quit taking the Pro Xanthine pills because of this, but decided to just lower my doses. Instead of 1 pill/per day as recommended, I started taking 1 pill every three days. I started this 1 pill/every 3 days of Pro Xanthine 500-XT on December 1[SUP]st[/SUP]. I am still currently taking the Pro Xanthine 1 pill every 3 days. My body has seemed to adjust to it and I am losing unwanted fat around my stomach area all the while giving me good energy from the stimulants in the pill. I am happy with this so far. I am still working out lifting weights and doing cardio about 4 times a week. So currently all I take is 1 pill of Pro Xanthine 500-XT once every three days and workout (weights and cardio) about 4 times a week. I no longer take any weight gainers (stopped this over a year ago) because I want to lose the gut I have. I am writing my history because I want to let you know that it seems my body is sensitive to these supplements.
Now I am not a muscular guy. Like I stated earlier, right now I am 6’2, 205 lbs. My ultimate goal is to stay around this weight of 205-210 lbs BUT WITH MUSCLE. The trainer at my gym suggested I take the Finaflex Epi-V because this will not make me gain any weight and at the same time cut me up and turn what my body already has into a cut, muscular physique. But he did say that there are some side affects and that if my body is sensitive to supplements I should take lower doses than recommended. He also said that I should take some “other things” (which I do not know what he means by that) to protect my organs like liver and kidneys and keep my libido up.
So my question is can you advise me if/how I should take the Finaflex Epi-V and what other things I should take with it to keep my organs safe and my libido up.
Or if I should not take the Epi-V at all and if there is something totally different altogether that you suggest I take instead.
My main concern is the health of my organs. Like I said earlier, I want to stay around the same weight I am right now (205-210 lbs) but want to be muscular and cut up. If you recommend the Epi-V, I want to know what is a dosage that is recommended for the Epi-V (for someone like myself who seems to be sensitive to these supplements) and how would I do it in a safe manner. Also, if I were to start the Epi-V do I still continue taking the Pro Xanthine pill once every three days like I currently am? If you can advise me and give me a schedule on what all to take and when to take them I would highly appreciate it. I am sorry for writing so much and asking so many questions, I just really need a professionals help. I want to do things the right and SAFE way for my body. Thank you for all of your help.
snagencyV2.0
Legend
welcome mdks.
Epi-V sounds like the right product for your goals. this is a safe product when used as directed, and kept within the recommended duration.
dosing is individual, but we advise:
FinaFlex Epi-V Directions:
As a dietary supplement, take 2-4 capsules daily. For extreme results, use 2 bottles of FinaFlex Epi-V consecutively over a 40-60 day period. Do not use FinaFlex Epi-V for more than 60 day consecutively. Take 60 days off before starting another cycle of FinaFlex Epi-V. Follow up cycle of FinaFlex Epi-V with PCT Revolution by ReDefine Nutrition to ensure proper Post Cycle Therapy (PCT).
pct would be advised to recover fully from the Epi.
let us know if you have further questions.
Epi-V sounds like the right product for your goals. this is a safe product when used as directed, and kept within the recommended duration.
dosing is individual, but we advise:
FinaFlex Epi-V Directions:
As a dietary supplement, take 2-4 capsules daily. For extreme results, use 2 bottles of FinaFlex Epi-V consecutively over a 40-60 day period. Do not use FinaFlex Epi-V for more than 60 day consecutively. Take 60 days off before starting another cycle of FinaFlex Epi-V. Follow up cycle of FinaFlex Epi-V with PCT Revolution by ReDefine Nutrition to ensure proper Post Cycle Therapy (PCT).
pct would be advised to recover fully from the Epi.
let us know if you have further questions.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Either that or 550 depends on where he's at.
mdks
New member
Hey, thanks for both of your advice. How would I dose it though? How many pills a day and at what times especially since it seems my body is sensitive to supplements. Also, do I still take the Pro Xanthine 500-XT pills like I currently am (1 pill every 3 days) while taking the Epi-V. Another question, when do I start the Finaflex PCT Black and Pure Test and how many pills and at what times do I take them. Thank you for your help.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Not with Epi-v no. I would dose Epi-v around 3 ed for you. 1 PCT black ed on cycle and 2 PCT. Start Pure Test during PCT or near end of cycle.
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
I completely agree with DW on this one, being a newbie and all 3caps/day is good and a definite must on his PCT REV. Black & PURE TEST advice...
insanity00123
Member
Hey guys,just a quick question! I'm 5'11'' 180 lbs and around 20% body fat. I am currently on a cut and was wondering if it was more beneficial to do cardio on 1- Andro to lose fat or just take 1-Andro and lift 4x a week on my cut? I will also be stacking 1-Andro with the new fat burner Finaflex PX Black! thanks!
DreamWeaver
Legend
You might want to do all of the above if you're cutting. What is your experience with these types of supps and how old are you.
insanity00123
Member
I'm 25 years old with 3 years lifting experience and my knowledge on prohormones are pretty good although I've never taken them. This will be my first prohormone as I heard AND read that 1-Andro is a non methylated mild prohormone with good results and minimal side effects.I'll be taking two caps of 1-Andro a day and 3 caps of PX Black a day. Would it be possible for me to drop down to 15% bodyfat on this cycle? If I can,would cardio be needed or should I just lift hard 4-5x a week? thanks!
snagencyV2.0
Legend
you heard correctly about the 1-andro, is a great product to use as a first-time run especially
i am highly anticipating PX black myself, should be here any day
as for your questions on bodycomp - quite honestly i have no way to answer that for you, other than to say sure these will be beneficial for your stated goal
off the top, you don't state what your current bf is
but whatever it may be, other factors involved would be your diet, your training and exercise frequency/volume/intensity etc
same goes for cardio - ie individual metabolism etc, some ppl need it and some ppl do not
these issues will have absolutely nothing to do per se with the effects of the products themselves - other than to influence what your actual results will be
insanity00123
Member
I actually got PX Black at the LA Fit Expo for $20 a bottle,so I bought 5 bottles!you heard correctly about the 1-andro, is a great product to use as a first-time run especially
i am highly anticipating PX black myself, should be here any day
as for your questions on bodycomp - quite honestly i have no way to answer that for you, other than to say sure these will be beneficial for your stated goal
off the top, you don't state what your current bf is
but whatever it may be, other factors involved would be your diet, your training and exercise frequency/volume/intensity etc
same goes for cardio - ie individual metabolism etc, some ppl need it and some ppl do not
these issues will have absolutely nothing to do per se with the effects of the products themselves - other than to influence what your actual results will be
I mentioned that I had 20% bodyfat in my first post,and as for my diet it'll be protein rich (180-200G protein) 2200 calorie diet,lift 4-5x a week going ape**** mode ha. Thanks for your answer!
snagencyV2.0
Legend
awesome! you got a smokin deal, and a jump on everybody else!I actually got PX Black at the LA Fit Expo for $20 a bottle,so I bought 5 bottles!
ahh, my bad, did not see that
sounds good, maybe kick the protein up even moreand as for my diet it'll be protein rich (180-200G protein) 2200 calorie diet,lift 4-5x a week going ape**** mode ha. Thanks for your answer!
protein is the most thermogenic macronutrient we can consume..in times of cut, i like to see at least 1.5g/lb of bw
but sounds like you got the right idea!
keep us updated my friend (maybe start a log?), and best to you
insanity00123
Member
Yeah Im thinking about it! thanks for the help!
PREracing25
Active member
Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO
I noticed when I ran my log for andro it helped me ton. Kept me on track and got help from alot of really smart AM members.
I noticed when I ran my log for andro it helped me ton. Kept me on track and got help from alot of really smart AM members.
DreamWeaver
Legend
40% of 2200 would be 880 cals so 220 gram protein if he wanted to figure it that way.
kenpoengineer
Well-known member
Insanity00123, these Finaflex reps here will help you rock your goals. If I were you I'd run a log in this Finaflex forum and let them (and rest of us) help you. I ran my log here and received plenty of quality help and suggestions.
snagencyV2.0
Legend
that's a nice stack, at minimum dosing
you can have nice results with this sure - provided (again) diet+training are on point
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah I like that scheme.
insanity00123
Member
How would i bridge this into epi v? should they overlap?
snagencyV2.0
Legend
yes they can overlap
you simply take each product concurrently until you phase the first product out (ie 1-andro) and then run only second product (ie epiV)..dosing of these on bridge again is preferential/goal dictated
DreamWeaver
Legend
Lots of different things you could do but keep it simple, lots of time for more experimentation on other runs.
jayalien
New member
Fellas, new to the forum here. Have a question regarding "bridge" and the "overlapping". Initially, I thought it was the same thing but form reading other post it maybe two different things all together.
My current cycle is the 1-Andro, 4 caps a day split dosing for 30days. I was going to "overlap" or "bridge" on the 4th week with the Epi-V and continue that for 30days. Suggestions if this is a good approach or should I throw something else in between? Oh, and of course i have my PCT black (2bottles) and pure test (2bottles) on hand. Thanks guys
My current cycle is the 1-Andro, 4 caps a day split dosing for 30days. I was going to "overlap" or "bridge" on the 4th week with the Epi-V and continue that for 30days. Suggestions if this is a good approach or should I throw something else in between? Oh, and of course i have my PCT black (2bottles) and pure test (2bottles) on hand. Thanks guys
snagencyV2.0
Legend
yeah it's all in perception i guess
me - i call it bridge, if you start out with one product, overlap with another (keeping second product lower dosed), then phase into second product solo at higher dosing..some may call this a simple transitional process
others call a bridge just that - a "bridge" as one would think, connecting two roads (or in this case, two different product connected by a third separate product)
to each their own
what you state above is great..
if you wish to bridge with say 550XD in the middle, that is valid approach as well
all depends on how extensive you wish to get, and what kind of results you are after
snagencyV2.0
Legend
awesome to hear, and we appreciate the feedback
perhaps you can run a log, share some experiences along the way..
we've got a good crew of guys with experience in these products on the forum, always glad to help others out
best
DreamWeaver
Legend
yeah it's all in perception i guess
me - i call it bridge, if you start out with one product, overlap with another (keeping second product lower dosed), then phase into second product solo at higher dosing..some may call this a simple transitional process
others call a bridge just that - a "bridge" as one would think, connecting two roads (or in this case, two different product connected by a third separate product)
to each their own
what you state above is great..
if you wish to bridge with say 550XD in the middle, that is valid approach as well
all depends on how extensive you wish to get, and what kind of results you are after
They're both brdiging one just has an overlap.
CSMailin
New member
Finaflex 1-Andro Cycle Question
ScottyDoc/DM/Anyone else with knowledge
I am 27, 5'9 167lbs looking to gain a little lean mass. Would love to get to 180 but 175 will suffice. This is my 2nd Cycle; first was 2 years ago. Diet is in check and so is my routine....
I will be taking the following while on my cycle and during PCT
Cycle Assist
Multivitamin
Milk Thistle
BCAA
Glutamine
Plenty of Protein
My question is I have the following; how should I take it?
1 Bottle Finaflex 1-Andro
1 Bottle Pure Test
2 Bottles PCT Revolution Black
1 Kre-Alkelyn EFX(I was thinking of probably taking this post Cycle but up for suggestions)
ScottyDoc/DM/Anyone else with knowledge
I am 27, 5'9 167lbs looking to gain a little lean mass. Would love to get to 180 but 175 will suffice. This is my 2nd Cycle; first was 2 years ago. Diet is in check and so is my routine....
I will be taking the following while on my cycle and during PCT
Cycle Assist
Multivitamin
Milk Thistle
BCAA
Glutamine
Plenty of Protein
My question is I have the following; how should I take it?
1 Bottle Finaflex 1-Andro
1 Bottle Pure Test
2 Bottles PCT Revolution Black
1 Kre-Alkelyn EFX(I was thinking of probably taking this post Cycle but up for suggestions)
snagencyV2.0
Legend
answers in bold above
welcome to the forum..are you logging this one?
would be in to follow - also, may have a bonus for you if you log it on our new forum....
BoneDaddy
Well-known member
Take my advice and log it. These guys will definitely take care of you and I think you'll like the bonus!
DreamWeaver
Legend
CSMailin
New member
I'll log it. Good way for me to keep track of my progress in any event. Hoping to start next week.
Below is how I plan to dose. Let me know your thoughts:
1-Andro
Week 1-4
2 pills a day(1 morning/1 night)
Revolution Black
Week 1-3
1 pill at night
Week 4
2 pills at night
Week 5-6
3 pills at night
week 7-8
2 pills at night
Pure Test(have to buy 1 more bottle)
Week 4-9
6 pills (2 morning/2 afternoon/2 night)
Take 1 Week off once the Test is finished and take the Kre-Alkelyn until it is finished...
Below is how I plan to dose. Let me know your thoughts:
1-Andro
Week 1-4
2 pills a day(1 morning/1 night)
Revolution Black
Week 1-3
1 pill at night
Week 4
2 pills at night
Week 5-6
3 pills at night
week 7-8
2 pills at night
Pure Test(have to buy 1 more bottle)
Week 4-9
6 pills (2 morning/2 afternoon/2 night)
Take 1 Week off once the Test is finished and take the Kre-Alkelyn until it is finished...
PREracing25
Active member
Il offer this up. The structure you have chosen for the pct black is overkill for 2 pills a day. You can take the AI out of the on cycle weeks of 1-3 and just run 2 caps at night week 5-8. Run the pure test atleast a week longer then the AI.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Seems fairly solid, PCT black from weeks 1-3 should not really be necessary.
CSMailin
New member
I'll be starting this on Monday. Send me the link to your new forum for me to log it....
PREracing25
Active member
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Put it in the post your own stack section. You will see mine and kleens there.
Put it in the post your own stack section. You will see mine and kleens there.
boxcaracer
Member
Sorry to just jump in here....BUT, got a few important questions.
Starting my first PH stack in a few weeks, and still haven't decided what to buy (just not methly products ;p)
I am looking into LG science 1-andro for two bottles, followed by their PCT.....but I feel that the 1-andro just helps to keep estrogene down and raise a little test.....
I want to add size, and stay lean as possiable while bulking up soon.
1-andro by finaflex has great reviews, and everyone loves to stack it with stuff.
So, what stack should I get for mass, and lean?
Any better then 1-andro by LG?
Starting my first PH stack in a few weeks, and still haven't decided what to buy (just not methly products ;p)
I am looking into LG science 1-andro for two bottles, followed by their PCT.....but I feel that the 1-andro just helps to keep estrogene down and raise a little test.....
I want to add size, and stay lean as possiable while bulking up soon.
1-andro by finaflex has great reviews, and everyone loves to stack it with stuff.
So, what stack should I get for mass, and lean?
Any better then 1-andro by LG?
3clipseGT
On my grind
Re: Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO
First and foremost 1-andro from either company will not reduce estrogen and/or boost test.
What i would recommend is picking up a couple bottles of our 1-alpha and stacking it with a couple bottles (depending on how long your run is) of 550-XD. This will help you add size and strength while maintaining a lean physique as long as your diet is in check. Then for pct utilizing our Revolution pct black will help you recover from the cycle and bring your test levels up to maintain gains and recover nicely.
As far as doseages go id start out with two caps of the 1-Alpha and 550-XD.
Let me know if you have anymore questions.
First and foremost 1-andro from either company will not reduce estrogen and/or boost test.
What i would recommend is picking up a couple bottles of our 1-alpha and stacking it with a couple bottles (depending on how long your run is) of 550-XD. This will help you add size and strength while maintaining a lean physique as long as your diet is in check. Then for pct utilizing our Revolution pct black will help you recover from the cycle and bring your test levels up to maintain gains and recover nicely.
As far as doseages go id start out with two caps of the 1-Alpha and 550-XD.
Let me know if you have anymore questions.
boxcaracer
Member
So, is LG scinces 1-andro just 1-ad?....then what is their M1D? (sorry if you can't really discuss other companies products) A rep from LG is REALLY talking up their 1-andro for mass and leaning out...But I feel like their 1-andro is just a weak test booster....but he offered me two bottles, and a PCT for 60$....can't beat that.
So, for my first stack, you recommend two bottles of 1-alpha and two 550-XD? and then your 1 bottle of PCT?
I will look into that stack and reply back with my first impressions......back now, what are the big differances between the two? I also see 550-XD was banned and being sold off?...hm...and based on price I would almost be tripling the 60$ for a full run by LG. What if I just ran two bottles of either or, and of course a PCT. And, if I do either or, what one do you recommend for mass, and leaner mass. cheers
3clipseGT
On my grind
Re: Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO
1-andro is 1-androsterone, M1D is dhea with some extras in it to help it convert to more favorable hormones.
1-andro is not a weak test booster, it is a hormone that converts to 1-androstanediol and 1-androstandione and then into 1-test.
550-XD is not banned, the previous version is banned but not the current version. You dont have to run the 550-xd with 1-alpha but you asked for a stack which is what i presented to you.
If you ran 1-alpha at 2 caps a day to begin and then bumped it to 3 caps you would see some nice gains, hit 4 caps a day and your in business with mass/lean gains, and strength gains to go with it.
1-andro is 1-androsterone, M1D is dhea with some extras in it to help it convert to more favorable hormones.
1-andro is not a weak test booster, it is a hormone that converts to 1-androstanediol and 1-androstandione and then into 1-test.
550-XD is not banned, the previous version is banned but not the current version. You dont have to run the 550-xd with 1-alpha but you asked for a stack which is what i presented to you.
If you ran 1-alpha at 2 caps a day to begin and then bumped it to 3 caps you would see some nice gains, hit 4 caps a day and your in business with mass/lean gains, and strength gains to go with it.
boxcaracer
Member
Thanks A TON! That really cleared things up.
So, how long should I run 1-alpha? probably a bottle and a half worth? and that by it self would be a good first run on PH, followed by a PCT of course.
Also, if I stacked 1-andro from LG science two bottles, but 1-AD 1 bottle worth with my LG 1-Andro...would that be okay? or is that combining the same compound? Or if it's okay to stack them, should I get two bottles worth of 1-AD from finaflex?
Thanks again, and thanks in advance.
snagencyV2.0
Legend
how old are you bud, and what are your goals?
boxcaracer
Member
24 my fellow lifter.
I am currently cutting, and will end my cut phase April 8th.
My goals are to mainly add size. Strength isn't important to me...even the slightest actually. But i want to add some decent size, and have some clean gains, and get hard muscles.
Yes my diet is in check, yes I rest at least 8 hours a day, and my blood pressure is in check, and have been researching prohormones for over a week, and have been considering them for over a month.
Been lifting 2+ years.
DreamWeaver
Legend
So you are obviously and Ecto to you really have to eat a lot and frequently. PH's wil help but the biggest problem you will be running into is maintainng mass once gained. It takes a tremendous amount of dedication to keep the muscle on and when you have maintained a lot of mass for a long period it is easier to maintain. That's the biggest issue with your body type, it's so easy to get frustrated. Consistancy over years of lifting is the real key. If you can't do this without PH's doing it with them will be liffle for you. These ehance what you already know how to do. If used correctly then they will work well. I am thinkng 1-andro or 1-alpha are your best bets if you are ready. Are you ready ? Possibly, 24 is pretty young but if you really know your shyte if could be ok for you.