I have gone up to 100mg Halodrol + 220mg Trenavar per day with 40mg epistane and 200mg hexadrone for 8 weeks and had no gyno issues.
I love the deep sleep i have on Prolactone. I also notice a significant increase in recovery time and a huge libido boost.That PH cycle was without prolactrone.
But for the last 2 months I have been using 2 caps prolactrone a day 1 @ 5.00pm and one pre bed. along with Viron 2 per day 5 on 2 off.
Don't see why you couldn'tCan you stack follidrone and prolactrone pre-workout?
I try to stick to taking these type of products before bed because of that reason, and mornings so by afternoon the relaxed feeling kind of wears off in time to get my routine in. I love all this stuff though for the GH increasing properties, specially before bed. sleep time is when GH is at its highest when your in that REM stage.I don't like to use prolactrone PWO because it puts me in a zoned chilled out state that makes me relaxed, not a state i like to be in when performing heavy squats or dead-lifts.
Even after taking protein?You can for sure use it PWO but I would think post would be better. It really cranks up HGH levels which will aid in recovery and growth.
Yes. Protein does not increase HGH.Even after taking protein?
I believe he may have been referring to protein being insulinogenic so this would lead to a blunt in GH secretion...Yes. Protein does not increase HGH.
That's EXACTLY what I meant. Thanks money, we're never in short need of comedians in the forumsI believe he may have been referring to protein being insulinogenic so this would lead to a blunt in GH secretion...
FWIW hormone manipulation coming from dietary changes are not going to yield the same results as supraphysiological doses of these hormones. So I wouldn't personally stress over such a small detail
Wasn't trying to be a comedian. Didn't see what you meant until money mentioned it.That's EXACTLY what I meant. Thanks money, we're never in short need of comedians in the forums
He's a Brooklyn boy, he takes some gettin' use to. He warns of such things.That's EXACTLY what I meant. Thanks money, we're never in short need of comedians in the forums
yea montana is a great place to relax & retire, I bet them people don't know what to think talkin to you, its like me comin from so-cal to Colorado I felt like a dam alien!Originally from Florida myself, in Montana right now. More laid back here in Montana, but I'm still a high strung bastard.
No, you shouldn't have to worry about those two, therir both fairly dry PH's and neither act on the progesterone receptor, the mist you shouled need is a minor AI, cycle support cause both specially the halo makes the blood pressure go up, I ran halo and towards the last week or two started having some sides from it, and actually heard the same from a few people. but yea yo should be safe from any prolactin issues.Yeah LOL! I get the deer in the headlight look a lot when I engage in conversation.Mainly due to my style of humor.
While I'm here. Is prolactin something to watch out for on an Epi/Halo stack? If so, is it best for on cycle or PCT?
Cool deal. Thanks for the info.No, you shouldn't have to worry about those two, therir both fairly dry PH's and neither act on the progesterone receptor, the mist you shouled need is a minor AI, cycle support cause both specially the halo makes the blood pressure go up, I ran halo and towards the last week or two started having some sides from it, and actually heard the same from a few people. but yea yo should be safe from any prolactin issues.
nice, how many caps a day you gonna take, epi is pretty good around 30-45 but halo is more effective around 75-100mg, 3 caps would probably be decent, I agree with brundel halo has some crazy sides and almost gave me gyno on my 7th-8th week of it I think, I would recommend the same, a strong AI like letrone started the last week of cycle and the following 4-5 weeks, I would run it another 2 weeks after your pct/SERMs case you can catch rebound after stopping the serms as well.It will be a two stack supp. Going to start on July 20th. I have all my support stuff. Been spending the rest of my time researching sources for Nolva and an AI. Ordering that next week and I will be set. Dosing will be 15mg epistane- 25mg Halo per capsule.
I am planning on a log as well.
Exactly, years ago Halo gave me gyno from a rebound effect.Halodrol has caused some of the worst cases of gyno I have ever seen.
I have read that halodrol cannot aromatize so I think that it is caused by some sort of rebound. I would start an AI like Letrone a couple of weeks before you stop the cycle and run it for 4 weeks during PCT.
https://www.tgbsupplements.com/p-16416-black-lion-research-letrone.aspx
Need another logger?Halodrol has caused some of the worst cases of gyno I have ever seen.
I have read that halodrol cannot aromatize so I think that it is caused by some sort of rebound. I would start an AI like Letrone a couple of weeks before you stop the cycle and run it for 4 weeks during PCT.
https://www.tgbsupplements.com/p-16416-black-lion-research-letrone.aspx
wow, have you had any blood work done through out this cycle, would be very interested to see or hear about liver values, cholesterol etc. Would also be very interesting for the AM community if you utilised your company's SERM and got pre and post bloods.speaking of which brundel what do you think, rebirth could bring me back to life after that long?? ran a quad stack of PH's to start back in February, bridged to 3 other ph's then bridged to massive dose of oral tren/epi to injectable trest ace/trest decoanate, to the test/mast/npp/tren now im doing test p/npp/tren and i'll be shutting it down next week, you think letrone/rebirth and follidrone would do the trick??? would be a hell of a test, or im just gonna stick to my clomid/nolva/letrone/exemestane/follidrone plans.. with DAA, 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin and some other test boosters.
Holy PH cycle Batman!!!!speaking of which brundel what do you think, rebirth could bring me back to life after that long?? ran a quad stack of PH's to start back in February, bridged to 3 other ph's then bridged to massive dose of oral tren/epi to injectable trest ace/trest decoanate, to the test/mast/npp/tren now im doing test p/npp/tren and i'll be shutting it down next week, you think letrone/rebirth and follidrone would do the trick??? would be a hell of a test, or im just gonna stick to my clomid/nolva/letrone/exemestane/follidrone plans.. with DAA, 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin and some other test boosters.
I've actually had around 5 or 6 tests done one just recently and the only thing that stuck out was my hemoglobulin being 1 mark over putting me in the "pre diabetes" category, and of course my creatinine levels are a little off, but the cholestoral wasn't bad at all, liver values were good. pretty amazing stuff, im trying to dig them up now so I can post the actual numbers, but I ran a strong cycle support the entire time and plan to even in PCT ill be using something with milk thistle and nac, might possibly throw in some tudca but im not too worried if I made it this far and everythings pretty good, I just had one done a week or two ago and my doc didn't see anything wrong other then my test being high lol. ill be getting another test soon and if the boss wants to work with me I might do a nice little log with just rebirth as my serm, I already planned on running the hcg for a week prior to pct, gonna do 500iu every day for 7-10 days with an AI to keep the estro down, possibly run nolva with it at 10mg a day.. I plan to run a STRONG pct though for sure. I don't play around with none of this.wow, have you had any blood work done through out this cycle, would be very interested to see or hear about liver values, cholesterol etc. Would also be very interesting for the AM community if you utilised your company's SERM and got pre and post bloods.
im def. wanting some don't need it for prolactin sides but for the hGH/IGF-1 boost it gives you, enhanced recovery and better sleep. once you experience the better sleep from a product that increases your dopamine levels and hGH theres nothing like it, even if you only get 3 hours of sleep you wake up feeling like superman ready to hit it!I think I may go for the Letrone/prolactrone stack. Use the prolactrone if needed.
Yeah, that would be great. So, as far as the dosing. 1 post workout and two before bed, is that good to go?im def. wanting some don't need it for prolactin sides but for the hGH/IGF-1 boost it gives you, enhanced recovery and better sleep. once you experience the better sleep from a product that increases your dopamine levels and hGH theres nothing like it, even if you only get 3 hours of sleep you wake up feeling like superman ready to hit it!
I completely agree. Nice pointsim def. wanting some don't need it for prolactin sides but for the hGH/IGF-1 boost it gives you, enhanced recovery and better sleep. once you experience the better sleep from a product that increases your dopamine levels and hGH theres nothing like it, even if you only get 3 hours of sleep you wake up feeling like superman ready to hit it!
thanks man!I completely agree. Nice points
Apologies for the late response, I'm actually just getting back home and getting on here catching up on everything, Brundels been extremely busy with personal things and business but you can most certainly use prolactrone with Anavite, If anything It will improve it. hope this helpsHi Brundel:
Can prolactrone be taken close to Gaspari Anavite Multi, I have recently switched over to Anavite over my regular Orange Triad for 1 month.
I missed this too. He hasn't been around for a while. Guess I need to resub to this thread.Apologies for the late response, I'm actually just getting back home and getting on here catching up on everything, Brundels been extremely busy with personal things and business but you can most certainly use prolactrone with Anavite, If anything It will improve it. hope this helps
Yea last time I talked to him was around the 1st I thinkI missed this too. He hasn't been around for a while. Guess I need to resub to this thread.