prohormone with least sides

[TripDog]

Extremely low sides!. I have done several 1T/4AD trans cycles back in the day before methyl this and methyl that crap!. I would say it is only slightly androgenic!. Sure maybe at 800mg a day you might get some sides, but at normal doses it is practically side effect free. The only side effect is lethargy and that is not an issue if you stack it correctly with an estrogenic steroid. Most, if not all steroids have the simple side effects that you stated, "acne, blood pressure, lipids"....You want androgenic try high doses of m5aa!!!!.

???, The chemical structure of 1-test makes it VERY androgenic!

1-testosterone, a 5-alpha reduced steroid reported to be 700% more anabolic and 200% more androgenic than testosterone; 1-testosterone is better (although rarely) described as dihydroboldenone, the 5-alpha reduced version of the veterinary steroid boldenone
Characteristics:
Very high conversion rate, because the liver serves primarily to "activate" the compound as it passes through rather than to break it down and excrete it, as is the case with other prohormones.
Cannot aromatize to estrogen either directly or through any of its metabolic products. However, 1-Testosterone, being a 5-alpha reduced steroid, is highly androgenic; it is very similar to Dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Many side effects associated with excessive levels of DHT, including male pattern baldness, testicular shrinkage, benign prostate hypertrophy and acne can occur with 1-AD usage. (Journal of Organic chem. vol, 27 1962 iss.1)

 

[ozarkaBRAND]

male pattern baldness, testicular shrinkage, benign prostate hypertrophy and acne can occur with 1-AD usage. (Journal of Organic chem. vol, 27 1962 iss.1)

I'll take 20!!!

 

[T-Bone]

Characteristics:
Very high conversion rate, because the liver serves primarily to "activate" the compound as it passes through rather than to break it down and excrete it, as is the case with other prohormones.

That is 1-AD which does convert to 1 test, not 1 test itself which is already active. I still don't believe it is highly androgenic. I would say "mildly". I'm not gonna argue over it though. It is what it is. Too bad it is no longer around though.

 

[EasyEJL]

I'm enjoying the 1-t so far

 

[riskarb]

Haha, at first I wasn't gonna count, then I went back to my old roots, maths in school, I noticed the 5 rows, I could not stop myself...

Wow, yer 'rithmetic rocks. They offer it as a degree program in Oz?

 

[TripDog]

That is 1-AD which does convert to 1 test, not 1 test itself which is already active. I still don't believe it is highly androgenic. I would say "mildly". I'm not gonna argue over it though. It is what it is. Too bad it is no longer around though.

Your "opinion" over medical documentation is irrelevant....I do wish they never banned it, as it was a great addition to just about any cycle. Twinlab made this stuff back then called "andro fuel" It was 1-ad,4-ad,and 1-test. I did a few bottles of that back then and enjoyed the hell out of it. It's sad but things like superdrol are like 10X more toxic and still around......very sad actually.

 

[cromwell]

I did good with sides by taking several protective supplements. I used:

1. Fish oil
2. Red Yeast Rice
3. Garlic
4. Co Q-10
5. Hawthorne Berries
6. Celery Seed

not all of the above was widely available info to everyone years ago, but you have a good point. Keep in mind, everyone is individual.
When I say sides I mean some shutdown, and a LITTLE thinning, but I don't consider anything of that nature all that acceptable. Some people would'nt even ***** about it. I also maintain that Methyl 1P is the worst piece of **** ever in terms of major shutdown with almost 0 results. Jmo

 

[cromwell]

I would agree with the Epi/Havoc thoughts

Agree.
I liked
4ad
nor 4 ad (but oh that shutdown, i f'd up and did'nt run a stronger adrogenic compound with it. But no I know what 6% bf looks like on me:head:
stanazolol

 

[EasyEJL]

stanazolol

stanazol or prostanazol?

 

[jmh80]

jmh80, which clone did you try that you felt was ineffective?

It seems the Halodrol clones seem to recommend the pitiful dosage 50mgs. Reality is most of us probably need to use at the very least 75 mgs/day, I prefer 100 mgs.

Epistane is a stand up choice for a mild PH. Seems to produce a little better result, but some get lethargy from it.

Epistane makes me feel pretty good when I start it, but Halodrol increases my libido, so its give and take.

The Hammer Sports one - forget the name.

I know I used 75 mgs/d - I may have went to 100 for a time. I increase past 50 after a week - didn't see anything during that time.

I've got the original Halodrol - need to try that. Seems like nearly everyone responds very well to it.

But - have some higher doses Epi (+ a clone) up next.
:head:

 

[PhilABowl]

The liver needs to be worked too, you have to hit every group equally in bb-ing. :bb:

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LOL this is too many awesomes, and requires it be quoted in its entirety

I think my favorite two things about this forum are the endless amounts of uneducated people wanting to ingest and inject things they buy from guys at the gym or off the internet with little or no knowledge, and the endless amounts of bickering over hypothetical drug combos that none of the participating parties have taken.

 

[jmh80]

I only used the Gaspari stuff.

Thanks man. I want to use it in '08 - not sure I can fit it in with a higher dose/longer cycle Epi and Oxyguno.

 

[cromwell]

stanazol or prostanazol?

good ol' winny!