Product Request Thread

Ersatz:
glisodin is a patanted oral form that is supposed to work. read more about it...

reagrading injecting SOD, I don't have a source for SOD solution. if you have, PM me (its not illegal)
 
Magnesium Orotate & Potassium Orotate, Please!

They're the best forms of their respective minerals.
 
what about capsiate or similar standardized (capsacinoids, not Heat Units) extract of cayenne? I've been looking for this for a year and nobody has an extract that is standardized.

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The ingredients have been out there for a while. There has already been quite a bit of experimentation with the Glycrrhetinic acid, and there is another place that has offered it in bulk for a while... I just like CNW better, and I just like messing with stuff. :twisted:
 
The oral Glisodin does seem to work OK for me, though I've never used the injectible. I mix it into my daily antiOx mix.
 
x_muscle said:
thats active ingredient in X-factor.....i think its patent
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It's not, I've seen the patent. It would not preclude the sale of the oil by anyone.

The single issued claim is this:

What is claimed is:

1. A method for increasing muscle mass, which method comprises administering orally to a human in need of such treatment an amount of arachidonic acid between about 100 mg and 5,500 mg which is effective in raising the level of the endogenous prostaglandin PGF2 alpha.

He couldn't patent its use a dietary supplement because its been used as a dietary supplement for years.


he has a couple other applications filed (which aren't enforcable until the point when and if they become issued patents) but none of these could stop the sell of bulk AA or morelia oil or even a supplement with AA unless they make the claim that they are selling it to increase muscle mass by raising prostaglandin PGF2
 
velikimajmun said:
It's not, I've seen the patent. It would not preclude the sale of the oil by anyone.

The single issued claim is this:

What is claimed is:

1. A method for increasing muscle mass, which method comprises administering orally to a human in need of such treatment an amount of arachidonic acid between about 100 mg and 5,500 mg which is effective in raising the level of the endogenous prostaglandin PGF2 alpha.

He couldn't patent its use a dietary supplement because its been used as a dietary supplement for years.


he has a couple other applications filed (which aren't enforcable until the point when and if they become issued patents) but none of these could stop the sell of bulk AA or morelia oil or even a supplement with AA unless they make the claim that they are selling it to increase muscle mass by raising prostaglandin PGF2
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So this means custom can sell the bulk AA as a mere "fatty acid" type supplement? That could work.. ;)
 
I think Custom has had his fair share of legal issues and doesn't need the additional ones this product would bring about.

As for the oral SOD, yes it does work but it's nowhere near as effective as the injectable version which doesn't come as any surprise.
 
custom said:
Fos?
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Fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS) are nondigestible dietary fibers that help to keep the stomach and bowels healthy. They do this by nourishing and promoting the naturally present, "friendly" bacteria (Bifidobacteria and Lactobacilli in particular) capable of warding off infection in the digestive system. Because of these properties FOS is considered a "prebiotic."
 
bigpetefox said:
So this means custom can sell the bulk AA as a mere "fatty acid" type supplement? That could work.. ;)
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Anybody could. Bill could attempt to sue, but would certainly lose as long as they weren't claiming it was for the purpose of increasing muscle mass..... The problem is that in this industry most people are woefully ignorant of how intellectual property law works and thus guys like Bill and BK can get off telling people they have a patent and they believe that is that.
 
Problem is, I would have to spend money regardless of who is right to litigate it...plus I would like to work with Bill on future endeavors.
 
custom said:
Problem is, I would have to spend money regardless of who is right to litigate it...plus I would like to work with Bill on future endeavors.
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Indeed and in this industry that's the real value of a patent. Most of the one's I've seen are fairly weak from an intellectual property stand point but the fear of litigation will scare most people off.
 
Curcumin caps or powder

Very strong anti-oxidant and anti-inflammitory (its a strong superoxide scavenger too)
inhibits cancer formation (inhibits angiogenesis)
eases arthritis/inflammed joints
prevents alzheimers
hepato protective (staves off hep C)
helps digestion by increasing bile release
helps gynomastia
protects against diabetes (lowers blood glucose, increases insulin sensitivity)
lowers cholesterol (lowers LDL, raises HDL)
anti-viral (inhibits HIV)
anti-mircobial
anti-aging supplement
protects kidneys
compared to hydrocortisone in studies
Cured my crohn's (no seriously, the second i start to get inflammed i take curcumin and it subsides, strongest anti inflammitory ive ever used.)
Its anti-inflammitory effects work through tons of different pathways, ex cox-2, lox, interlukin-1 and 6, TNF-a, NFkappaB

The health benefits are countless and ive seen first hand that this stuff is a very strong anti-inflammitory. Oh yeah see if you can get it with bioperine too, Invalid Link Removed.

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What kind of doses are you using Cosmo? I put some curcumin in an antioxidant blend aimed at easing my wife's ulcerative collitis, along with SOD, KR-ALA, elderlberry, grapeseed extract, broccoli extract, bromelain and silmaryin.
 
Cosmo said:
Curcumin caps or powder

Very strong anti-oxidant and anti-inflammitory (its a strong superoxide scavenger too)
inhibits cancer formation (inhibits angiogenesis)
eases arthritis/inflammed joints
prevents alzheimers
hepato protective (staves off hep C)
helps digestion by increasing bile release
helps gynomastia
protects against diabetes (lowers blood glucose, increases insulin sensitivity)
lowers cholesterol (lowers LDL, raises HDL)
anti-viral (inhibits HIV)
anti-mircobial
anti-aging supplement
protects kidneys
compared to hydrocortisone in studies
Cured my crohn's (no seriously, the second i start to get inflammed i take curcumin and it subsides, strongest anti inflammitory ive ever used.)
Its anti-inflammitory effects work through tons of different pathways, ex cox-2, lox, interlukin-1 and 6, TNF-a, NFkappaB

The health benefits are countless and ive seen first hand that this stuff is a very strong anti-inflammitory. Oh yeah see if you can get it with bioperine too, Invalid Link Removed.

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This is cured your CROHNS? That is awsome,im diffently looking more into this. Seems VERY interesting!
 
I take from 2000mg to 4000mg with bioperine during a non flare day, i take it with every meal since curcumin's halflife is about 3-5 hours, when i started taking it for the first time it took me out of a chronic cycle of inflammation i had been dealing with for month's, i had been free for about 2 months (BIG progress) until last night because my supply had been running low and i was taking half the dosage, so anyways i flared up last night and took 4 grams as soon as i felt the swelling start, within about 15-20 it subsided very quickly, this has never happened to me before (i had never had a chance to take it AS i was swelling, its always been preventative up until now) I take Doctor's Best brand (its cheap at papanature.com) From all the research ive done its really because its an antioxidant and that it helps mostly i think by inhibiting nfkb which in turn stops tnf-a from being released, alpha lipoic acid and resveratrol can do this, its just their half life is too short, im guessing k-rala would be good to take during active inflammation and curcumin seems good for preventative therapy (still trying to find an antioxidant as strong but with a longer halflife but so far curcumin is the best i believe mostly cause its not absorbed easily by the intestines probably giving it its longer half life, not to mention it makes its way all the wayt down to the large colon without being completly absorbed so im guessing it has a direct topical action)

sorry for the run on post, i suck at sentences and paragraphs
 
Thanks for the info. We're trying to get pregnant and do not want to be on Sulfasalazine while she is pregnant so we are looking for other options. I used a lot of different supps on her but Sulfasalazine was about the only thing to really put the UC into remission completely.

I'm using BAC's SOD powder which I believe is GliSODin brand. I took a few 1 gram doses just to see what it could do and I could definitely feel something going on..increased energy, bags under my eyes went down. It's just too expensive to take at that doasge level so I mixed it in with our anti-ox blend.

The injectible sounds interesting though.
 
hmm... ive read somewhere that curcumin can be used as a female contraceptive and also to be not used during pregnancy. Ive also heard about crohn's/colits problems subsiding during pregnancy
 
Finding injectiable SOD is a pain so maybe a board sponsor here may offer it. Is the broccoli extract from BAC too? They have some nice antioxidants sourced from fruits and even a blend. Be nice if Custom would carry some of these aox powders. I've used GliSODin and 1g/day is about right and prohibitively costly.
 
Good to know on the pregnancy part.

Yeah, the broccoli is from BAC. Smells just like you would expect..like concentrated broccoli.
 
ersatz said:
Finding injectiable SOD is a pain so maybe a board sponsor here may offer it. Is the broccoli extract from BAC too? They have some nice antioxidants sourced from fruits and even a blend. Be nice if Custom would carry some of these aox powders. I've used GliSODin and 1g/day is about right and prohibitively costly.
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Which one specifically would you like to see?

I know of a "super anti-oxidant" that has yet to be introduced to the bodybuilding market, but I would also like some common ones to do as bulk powders.
 
custom said:
Which one specifically would you like to see?

I know of a "super anti-oxidant" that has yet to be introduced to the bodybuilding market, but I would also like some common ones to do as bulk powders.
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I can't imagine a super aox that could top SOD but I'd be interested in giving it a try.

Looking for aox powders that contain the following. Anthocyanidins(20% seems to be standard) and is found in highest concentrations in billberries, blueberries, and prunes. [SIZE=-1]Ellagic acid (typically 75%) found in pomergranate, cherry, raspberries, strawberries, etc.
[/SIZE]You already have a great grape seed extract so those three would cover most of the bases. I would like to see Idebenone stocked again as well but I don't know how well the aox powders sell as they're commonly overlooked and underrated supps.
 
1.) Capped HMB

3.) Clary Sage Extract- Supposedly even better than forskolin at increasing cAMP levels

4.) Oolong Tea- Again, supposedly better than GTE in increasing metabolic rate/fat inhibition

5.) Ecdysterone- Very hard to find a good source, but looks extremely promising. If you could find a tested extract for this, that would be incredibly awesome

6.) A bulk LEUKIC source.

That's the wish list.
 
Reggin said:
Tibetan Goti Berries. ORAC of 25,300
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I don't put much value in ORAC numbers as the test is highly flawed. I don't believe it even factors in bioavailbility factors. So a chemcial might have a high ORAC value but what good is it if none survives oral ingestion?

Interesting to see Ecdysteronerequests as I thought it was promoted several years ago but never panned out.
 
ersatz said:
I don't put much value in ORAC numbers as the test is highly flawed. I don't believe it even factors in bioavailbility factors. So a chemcial might have a high ORAC value but what good is it if none survives oral ingestion?

Interesting to see Ecdysteronerequests as I thought it was promoted several years ago but never panned out.
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Even so. I assume since the Goti berry is 100% wildgrown (they do not make an extract for it, as far as I know) the bioavailability would be much, much better than other kinds of antioxidants based on extracts and the like.
 
ORAC values also do not take into account the fact that you body can only use so much aox at any given time and most of the uber potent aox's have extremely short half lives. But still..they're all good.

An edcdy source at 20% or higher would be awesome. It does actually work. The problem years back seemed to be attributed to poor quality extract that surprise surprise, was still pimped as being ultra potent by the supp companies. A good quality extract at high enough doses does produce a nice anabolic effect..and better yet, it increases endurance extremely well.
 
ersatz said:
I can't imagine a super aox that could top SOD but I'd be interested in giving it a try.

Looking for aox powders that contain the following. Anthocyanidins(20% seems to be standard) and is found in highest concentrations in billberries, blueberries, and prunes. [SIZE=-1]Ellagic acid (typically 75%) found in pomergranate, cherry, raspberries, strawberries, etc.
[/SIZE]You already have a great grape seed extract so those three would cover most of the bases. I would like to see Idebenone stocked again as well but I don't know how well the aox powders sell as they're commonly overlooked and underrated supps.
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I would also like to see some bulk powders of antioxidants, maybe Acai powder and whatever if it possible to get that stuff that is in Goji Juice, the juice is awesome.
 
bioman said:
ORAC values also do not take into account the fact that you body can only use so much aox at any given time and most of the uber potent aox's have extremely short half lives. But still..they're all good.

An edcdy source at 20% or higher would be awesome. It does actually work. The problem years back seemed to be attributed to poor quality extract that surprise surprise, was still pimped as being ultra potent by the supp companies. A good quality extract at high enough doses does produce a nice anabolic effect..and better yet, it increases endurance extremely well.
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A higher extract would be real nice. :burger:
 
How about a sleep aid akin to Lean Dreams by ALRI?

Lean Body Modulation Proprietary-Matrix: 1100mg
Oleamide
L-Tryptophane Ethyl Ester
Ziziphus JujubaPE 2%
Jujubosides
Valeriana Officinalis Root Extract
Scutellaria baicalensis Root PE 90% Baicalin
Berberine
Salvia Officianlis Proprietary Extract
Rotundine
Magnolia officinalis BArk PE 90% Magnolol/Honokiol
Piperine
Melatonin
 
Random987 said:
How about a sleep aid akin to Lean Dreams by ALRI?

Lean Body Modulation Proprietary-Matrix: 1100mg
Oleamide
L-Tryptophane Ethyl Ester
Ziziphus JujubaPE 2%
Jujubosides
Valeriana Officinalis Root Extract
Scutellaria baicalensis Root PE 90% Baicalin
Berberine
Salvia Officianlis Proprietary Extract
Rotundine
Magnolia officinalis BArk PE 90% Magnolol/Honokiol
Piperine
Melatonin
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Just a little tidbit I learned about Magnolia extract...it increases endogenous DHEA levels by 200+%. I was taking and could understand why my acne was getting so bad..and that was why.
 
What about a simmondisin extract? It seems to be very potent in terms of appetite supression.

I'm dying to Hoodia+Simmondsin+Synephrine and Nicotine while dieting.
 
Where's the bulk TTA go?! I checked the bulk product and weight loss sections to no avail.

Please don't tell me you stopped carrying it?
 
TTA is out of stock.

I want to have bulk K-RALA and caps in soon; we'll see on that. But you guys do know there is an R-ALA from Gerenova now that is better than the K-RALA, so make what you want to of that.
 
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