powerfull vs Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzo

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referring to the resveratrol study posted. THoughts?

A Good vivo study. Must be better than the vitro study you posted, but I'm no chemist. I will let you set the standard.

Which study is that? Can you give a link to it? Or did I miss it here.
 
Yeah, that PA avatar is hilarious. I had to show a couple people that picture.

We all have some pretty bad candid photos taken of ourselves, but we're just busting your balls in good fun.
 

Ah the attachment. Thanks.

Man does my head hurt now after reading that. Basically what that study says to me is "you can't count on any of the results of in vitro studies until in vitro studies are done with the resveratrol metabolites". Interesting thought tho then as far as the primordial performance transdermal products go, as its not oral delivery. man I need an asprin, but that would affect muscle growth.
 
ergonet gets it's first endorsment

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why do i sound so angry in my posts?

I would say that it comes down to:

1. WPM = Words Per Minute = slow typer = have to say alot in a short amount of words.

2. Short / Abrupt / To the point in everything you say rather than taking the time to think of the best way to say something. I.e. you type / shoot from the hand / hip instead of thinking about what you want to say / how you want to say it.

3. It because you say as you think without compassion / think how it sounds. How you say what you want to say is sometimes more important and really helps get your true thoughts / feelings out in your posts.

I think you're doing alright. I personally would recommend you don't get into the name calling thing and really just take a breath and walk away from the computer if it becomes that frustrating for you. Are you not making enough money? Why not take a nice holiday to somewhere sunny and happy? Too many stims?

Personally I would be happier if you would just learn to put your "i"'s in uppercase :toofunny:

Love is a better way Pat,

Neoborn
 
or maybe he looks more kick a*s without the shades (looks quite stalloney actually)

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I swear I haven't laughed so much at a post in a while. You truly have a gift of humor B Unit. .....I love joo long time!

Much Love,

Neoborn

P.s I would have rep'd you about five times tonight just for the joy you have brought me in making me laugh!:toofunny: :clap2:
 
i don't care about my sales

i care about the truth

Truthfully answer this question please:

1. What non Ergo products that can be bought in bulk or OTC cause decent anabolism with minimal side effects?

2. What non Ergo products can be bought in bulk or OTC that are good for anti-cort effects?

3. What are your top five non Ergo products that you would recommend to most bb'ers trying to be healthy and increase lbm etc

Thanks PA I know you will give us your honest opinion even though you have nothing to gain in sales from your answers!

A true forum hero!

Much Love,

Neoborn

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Truthfully answer this question please:

1. What non Ergo products that can be bought in bulk or OTC cause decent anabolism with minimal side effects?

2. What non Ergo products can be bought in bulk or OTC that are good for anti-cort effects?

3. What are your top five non Ergo products that you would recommend to most bb'ers trying to be healthy and increase lbm etc

Thanks PA I know you will give us your honest opinion even though you have nothing to gain in sales from your answers!

A true forum hero!

Much Love,

Neoborn

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i covered this in another thread. thank you
 
Truthfully answer this question please:

1. What non Ergo products that can be bought in bulk or OTC cause decent anabolism with minimal side effects?

2. What non Ergo products can be bought in bulk or OTC that are good for anti-cort effects?

3. What are your top five non Ergo products that you would recommend to most bb'ers trying to be healthy and increase lbm etc

Thanks PA I know you will give us your honest opinion even though you have nothing to gain in sales from your answers!

A true forum hero!

Much Love,

Neoborn

<crickets>

This thread. there are quite a few other products and some bulk items mentioned throughout

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Testers needed for your "worthless" & " products that don't work" ??

Pick me!! :)

Neoborn

I only pick small minded, and the easily manipulated that succumb to Placebo...hmm well in that case, I pick you:stick: :rasp: :ntome:
 
I want to just say my piece and leave. PA knows that I respect him...but my recent status change into rep for Jacob will probably make him and everyone else take what I am about to say not quite as seriously.

First off, I'm not a chemist or very well versed in all the technical jargon that has been thrown around this thread. Like I always have said, I like these debates, even if they are against a company I personally vouch for. I think they're a necessary evil.

As far as powerfull goes, I have used both the old and new versions and have had seen results from both. If someone can explain how no change in diet, rest, training and the addition of a supplement can cause faster hari/nail growth, better recovery time, a slight increase in libido, and better complection without boosting growth hormone levels, I would like to hear it.

I mean, IMHO, the results have always spoken for themselves. The consumer feedback has constantly been great.

...Just wanted to interject this morning...
 
Well to be sure try a regular L-dopa supplement and see how it would compare to Powerfull. I doubt it will be the same probably not even close.
 
I want to just say my piece and leave. PA knows that I respect him...but my recent status change into rep for Jacob will probably make him and everyone else take what I am about to say not quite as seriously.

First off, I'm not a chemist or very well versed in all the technical jargon that has been thrown around this thread. Like I always have said, I like these debates, even if they are against a company I personally vouch for. I think they're a necessary evil.

As far as powerfull goes, I have used both the old and new versions and have had seen results from both. If someone can explain how no change in diet, rest, training and the addition of a supplement can cause faster hari/nail growth, better recovery time, a slight increase in libido, and better complection without boosting growth hormone levels, I would like to hear it.

I mean, IMHO, the results have always spoken for themselves. The consumer feedback has constantly been great.

...Just wanted to interject this morning...

thats cool
 
unique nutrition sales a synthetic L-dopa. Please report back.

pffffffffff why synthetic l-dopa??
a fair comparison would be mucan itself. igf 2 has mucana extract and they list it as what it is. Your whole argument in this thread is that you have some special extract of mucana and i guess PA is implying that its nothing special just mucana extracted for l-dopa.
 
pffffffffff why synthetic l-dopa??
a fair comparison would be mucan itself. igf 2 has mucana extract and they list it as what it is. Your whole argument in this thread is that you have some special extract of mucana and i guess PA is implying that its nothing special just mucana extracted for l-dopa.

Well try that or or buy some bulk. You are the consumer. I'm not forcing a comparison. I welcome ANY comparison.

My arguement (in our advertising) is that our extract is better than synthetic l-dopa which was studied in VIVO and showed to raise HGH 220%. I'm not worried about what Pat Arnold thinks.
 
Well try that or or buy some bulk. You are the consumer. I'm not forcing a comparison. I welcome ANY comparison.

My arguement (in our advertising) is that our extract is better than synthetic l-dopa which was studied in VIVO and showed to raise HGH 220%. I'm not worried about what Pat Arnold thinks.

So all your post rebutting PA was for sh1ts and giggles?
 
Well try that or or buy some bulk. You are the consumer. I'm not forcing a comparison. I welcome ANY comparison.

My arguement (in our advertising) is that our extract is better than synthetic l-dopa which was studied in VIVO and showed to raise HGH 220%. I'm not worried about what Pat Arnold thinks.

unique mentions mucuna in their descriptions, are you sure its synthetic?

Also just to clear up some q's for me. I've been buying bulk powerful for the last 4 months, 3 cannisters so far. The first was the darkest, and biggest particles, the second was lighter, smaller particles tasted more "sharp" and was the strongest as far as drowsiness inducing of the 3. The third is nanovapor grade particle size, and very light, tastes similar to the 2nd. Are they all standardized for the same L-dopa amount? and is the decarboxycan'trememberexactly in the bulk 1-c (because its extracted differently) the main difference between the 2?

yes my nails all grew like a SOB on all 3 cannisters.
 
unique mentions mucuna in their descriptions, are you sure its synthetic?

Also just to clear up some q's for me. I've been buying bulk powerful for the last 4 months, 3 cannisters so far. The first was the darkest, and biggest particles, the second was lighter, smaller particles tasted more "sharp" and was the strongest as far as drowsiness inducing of the 3. The third is nanovapor grade particle size, and very light, tastes similar to the 2nd. Are they all standardized for the same L-dopa amount? and is the decarboxycan'trememberexactly in the bulk 1-c (because its extracted differently) the main difference between the 2?

yes my nails all grew like a SOB on all 3 cannisters.


L-dopa oxidizes readily so it should be kept tight and stored in a cool place. there should be a limited shelf life on the container, don't buy one that is old. also, if its ground too fine that is not good as it will be even more prone to oxidation. but then again i am not a true scientist because i did not receive my pHd from calcutta state
 
Well try that or or buy some bulk. You are the consumer. I'm not forcing a comparison. I welcome ANY comparison.

My arguement (in our advertising) is that our extract is better than synthetic l-dopa which was studied in VIVO and showed to raise HGH 220%. I'm not worried about what Pat Arnold thinks.

well i use bulk powerful and like it a lot, i have noticed improved skin, hair and quality of sleep and ofcourse the vivid dreams. everyone knows that you brought cissus to western bb community and i am sure you have respect for that, i just think you should not under estimate your customer , the quality of your products is well proven and most consumer will pay a lil extra for your product ( compared to competition) for the assurance of quality and consistency..its called brand loyalty.
 
BTW i am 100% indian i dont think PA's comment were racist, i fully agree with what he said, indians are a pain in the butt to do business with, u really need a degree in psychology to deal with them/us
 
BTW i am 100% indian i dont think PA's comment were racist, i fully agree with what he said, indians are a pain in the butt to do business with, u really need a degree in psychology to deal with them/us


thanks man, like i said its a cultural thing not a racial thing. Indians raised in other cultures (like my business partner) are different. Jeez its not like the behavior is in their blood or somethign (now that would be jews.....i am KIDDING KIDDING!!! aaaahhgggg!!!! ha ha laugh lets ligthen up folks)
 
...always pushing it, PA.
That's why I follow your posts -- entertaining and informative (though I'm not sure of the ratio, lol).
 
thanks man, like i said its a cultural thing not a racial thing. Indians raised in other cultures (like my business partner) are different. Jeez its not like the behavior is in their blood or somethign (now that would be jews.....i am KIDDING KIDDING!!! aaaahhgggg!!!! ha ha laugh lets ligthen up folks)

 
thanks man, like i said its a cultural thing not a racial thing. Indians raised in other cultures (like my business partner) are different. Jeez its not like the behavior is in their blood or somethign (now that would be jews.....i am KIDDING KIDDING!!! aaaahhgggg!!!! ha ha laugh lets ligthen up folks)

 
L-dopa oxidizes readily so it should be kept tight and stored in a cool place. there should be a limited shelf life on the container, don't buy one that is old. also, if its ground too fine that is not good as it will be even more prone to oxidation. but then again i am not a true scientist because i did not receive my pHd from calcutta state

POSER!
 
thanks man, like i said its a cultural thing not a racial thing. Indians raised in other cultures (like my business partner) are different. Jeez its not like the behavior is in their blood or somethign (now that would be jews.....i am KIDDING KIDDING!!! aaaahhgggg!!!! ha ha laugh lets ligthen up folks)

hahaha finally he says something that is actually funny
 
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