PowerFULL Dosing Regimen!!!!

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Mulletsoldier said:
This does not have an effect on the steroidal saponins in PFull which work much like an IM shot of exogenous hormones (in response time and manner, not effectiveness) with a quick spike and a downard progression towards stable blood levels.
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This is very vague...

So your saying I'm spewing the Test levels of 10 to 15 men on my quick spike when I take PowerFuLL, just like exogenous testosterone being shot into my bloodstream with no ester?

If not...I definately wouldn't go around comparing PowerFull as an equivelent of pining some gear before your workout.

As for the GH effects...it was never told how much PowerFull in grams would have to be taken to elicit the GH response on the supposed study done in India.

I would clear this up...
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
This is very vague...

So your saying I'm spewing the Test levels of 10 to 15 men on my quick spike when I take PowerFuLL, just like exogenous testosterone being shot into my bloodstream with no ester?

If not...I definately wouldn't go around comparing PowerFull as an equivelent of pining some gear before your workout.

As for the GH effects...it was never told how much PowerFull in grams would have to be taken to elicit the GH response on the supposed study done in India.

I would clear this up...
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ATR,

I am going to say this as politely as possible. Go back, and re-read my posts. Nowhere, did I say the HORMONE levels would be the same as an IM shot of Testosterone without and ester. I was describing the manner in which it works, as in the downward progression of hormone levels until serum level is reached.
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
This is very vague...
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And it is not vague. The Saponins in PowerFULL are Steroidal, a broad term describing a mechanism of action. This action takes place, because of the shorter Half-Life of PFull (about 6 hours) much like an IM shot of Testosterone. Once again, as I have stated three times now:

Not comparable as in the hormone levels, as in the manner through which it is carried out.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
As in a IM shot of Test Prop. Once again, not in efficacy or hormone levels but in the manner it dissipates.
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Sorry man...I was posting my post simultaneously when you posted this.

Info appreciated...

BTW..not trying to clog up Synergy Muscle w/ questions or any controversy, but I invest more money in USPlabs than any other supp. company and I really do like the approach yall take in the supplement world, so I try to gain as much knowledge as possible through you guys being the directs source of the answers needed.

-ATR-:run:
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
Sorry man...I was posting my post simultaneously when you posted this.

Info appreciated...

BTW..not trying to clog up Synergy Muscle w/ questions or any controversy, but I invest more money in USPlabs than any other supp. company and I really do like the approach yall take in the supplement world, so I try to gain as much knowledge as possible through you guys being the directs source of the answers needed.

-ATR-:run:
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You know what man, I actually apologize for being a douche. It's just that I spend so much time on the forums, and I really do just want to help people with USP Labs info, so I get a little protective sometimes. Keep the questions coming, IMO, they help everybody.
 
So what is the correct dosage for the HGH release? That question has been asked 4 times and it has been skirted each time.

So could we get a link to this study or an answer to this question please?
 
Mulletsoldier said:
You know what man, I actually am a douche. It's just that I spend so much time in the bath house's, and I really do just want to touch people with a little protection sometimes. Keep the questions coming, IMO, I help everybody.
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Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
 
witchdawg7 said:
So what is the correct dosage for the HGH release? That question has been asked 4 times and it has been skirted each time.

So could we get a link to this study or an answer to this question please?
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keep upping the dosage until gyno symptoms start, then you know youve gone too far. j/k

I personally like the effects of 9-12 caps a day.
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
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Most importantly I hope it doesn't inhibit Anabolic Pump when taken together, as I have started AP within the last few days.

-Grimface
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For what its worth, I've used both AP and PF solo and didn't notice anything in terms of changes in body comp, mood, sleep libido, pumps, etc.

When I combined the two the effects were awesome. Increased mood, endurance, libido, sleep...I won't use either solo again.
 
bpmartyr said:
Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
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LOL are you next going to suggest doucheaholics for Mullet??

Seriously its nice to see someone take the time and to have the balls to say sorry sometimes. Kudos to Mullet.
 
MattHines said:
USP, this is very interesting news!

HGH normally gets effective after 6months - 1 year of use. Now, powerfull is obviously effective within 7-10 days. My question is this: Can powerfull be taken for months without losing efficacy?

Perhaps some users have tried powerfull for prolonged amounts of time and can chime in. If it really is just like injecting 3ius/HGH then perhaps we can use powerfull as a year-round supp.
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Its like injecting 3 ius per dose so if you dose 3 times expect a rise in HGH compareable to injecting 3 ius, but with POwerFULL, you can not increase HGH to effect the negative feedback loop.

Very Important to dose without food. The best time is to dose One hour 15 minutes after you when glucose clears the system.

Best dose is
morning ESPECIALLY before fasted cardio
pre workout
night time
 
USPLabs said:
Its like injecting 3 ius per dose so if you dose 3 times expect a rise in HGH compareable to injecting 3 ius, but with POwerFULL, you can not increase HGH to effect the negative feedback loop.

Very Important to dose without food. The best time is to dose One hour 15 minutes after you when glucose clears the system.

Best dose is
morning ESPECIALLY before fasted cardio
pre workout
night time
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1. How many grams is considered a dose for the added HGH effect?

2. How long can you dose PowerFull before a negative feedback loop?
8 weeks...12 weeks???
 
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(((A^T^R))) said:
1. How many grams is considered a dose for the added HGH effect?

2. How long can you dose PowerFull before a negative feedback loop?
8 weeks...12 weeks???
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I got 500 G of Powerful sitting around and would love to know the answer to this question. I mean hell I don't want to waste it but I don't want to under dose either.
Can we get a link to the study or the recomended dossage for the HGH effect USP ???????????????????????????????????????????
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
1. How many grams is considered a dose for the added HGH effect?

2. How long can you dose PowerFull before a negative feedback loop?
8 weeks...12 weeks???
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Bump for both these questions to be answered...
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
1. How many grams is considered a dose for the added HGH effect?

2. How long can you dose PowerFull before a negative feedback loop?

1 gram

There is a rate limiting factor. HGH can only go so high naturally so it can not cause inhibition.
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(((A^T^R))) said:
The second question was about the testosterone effects, how long before they diminish w/ prolonged use?

8 week?
12 weeks?
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Honestly, I never seen diminished results as long as diet is on track. I have used for long long peroids of time and hate to come off it.

I am a firm believer of cleaning out for a month or so and just ride the wave of good food.

I stopped AP last week after 4 months. I Debate every day with my subconscience to re start. The effects never diminished.
 
USPLabs said:
Honestly, I never seen diminished results as long as diet is on track. I have used for long long peroids of time and hate to come off it.

I am a firm believer of cleaning out for a month or so and just ride the wave of good food.

I stopped AP last week after 4 months. I Debate every day with my subconscience to re start. The effects never diminished.
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I stopped taking the bulk PowerFull for three days after taking it for 14 days straight just to see if I noticed a difference; and guess what? Sleep wasn't near as good and there seemed to be an abscence of the vivid dreams, and it dropped my insatiable libido for pu$$y down to 3 servings a day.


I'm ultimately sold on PoweFull now.

USPlabs can you please go over to the Genera forum and answer my question on when the bulk line will finally be available and what products your offering???:run:
 
So, here are my pre-bed supps :

Vit C, PFull, ZMA,1.5- 2 scoops Protein Powder in water. 2-4 Grams Fish Oil

Should I dose like this:

1 hour before bed: PFull on empty stomach
45 - 30 min before: ZMA on empty stomach
Before hitting the sack: Protein, Fish Oil, Vit C

Look Good?
 
I'm stacking ap, cialabol and powerfull right now. One thing i notice about powerfull, I dose it 4 caps preworkout and when i do i get a real nice pump and i seem more vascular. When i dose before bed i sleep a lot harder, my wife has been telling me i have been snoring lately. Thats news since i had my uvala taking out for sleep apnea.
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
The second question was about the testosterone effects, how long before they diminish w/ prolonged use?

8 week?
12 weeks?
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I was on PowerFull for 14 weeks straight with no loss of effect, i just stopped because my stash ran out, lol.
 
ECTOmorph said:
how many caps per dose?
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The bottle says on training days:

1 in morning before breakfast

2 30mins prior to training

1 before bed

on off days:

1 cap 3x daily, I take mine before breakfast, lunch, and bedtime I take 2..
 
So the new Pfull is finally out huh?!!? when will retailers be stocking it? I gotta get me some of the new formulation ;)
 
no i dont think its out yet, if it is, hes been holding out on most of us. I think some people just happen to get their hands on it before us average joes who actually pay money for it. HEHE!
 
freezito said:
no i dont think its out yet, if it is, hes been holding out on most of us. I think some people just happen to get their hands on it before us average joes who actually pay money for it. HEHE!
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Negative, ghostrider!

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MattHines said:
Just anyone that knows about this link..

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From the page you linked to:

FREE USPLabs Inner Circle Membership ($197 value)
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Now, I've gotten maybe 3 emails from this. One of them was for the AP pre-release purchase at "significant" discount.

This $197 value, does anyone know what it represents?
 
USPLabs said:
(((A^T^R))) said:
1. How many grams is considered a dose for the added HGH effect?

1 gram

There is a rate limiting factor. HGH can only go so high naturally so it can not cause inhibition.
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So for the NP bulk powerfull, a 1/3 tbsp would be the optimal amount? 1/4 is 800mg, and 1/3 would be 1066mg. And thats 1g every 8 hrs?

And absorbtion isn't affected by foods in general, carbs specifically only? What sort of amount of carbs do you think would be relevant and start clipping effectiveness? 5g? 10g? theres always some in supplements, some protein drinks, etc.
 
Can we revisit this dose timing for someone who w/o first thing in the AM.

Directions on workout days:

1 cap in morning 30 mins after food intake

2 caps 30mins before exercise

1 before bed
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My first meal of the day is a pre w/o shake. It is sometimes with low/mod carbs or no carbs depending upon my goals. My desired response from PowerFULL is HGH increase, as I already am using TRT.

30 minutes after meal and 30 min before exercise? This means take my pre workout shake, wait 30 minutes, take 2 capsule and wait 30 minutes to workout?

I assume I can take the other two (or three) capsules, one midday and the other one (or two) before bed?
 
B5150 said:
Can we revisit this dose timing for someone who w/o first thing in the AM.

My first meal of the day is a pre w/o shake. It is sometimes with low/mod carbs or no carbs depending upon my goals. My desired response from PowerFULL is HGH increase, as I already am using TRT.

30 minutes after meal and 30 min before exercise? This means take my pre workout shake, wait 30 minutes, take 2 capsule and wait 30 minutes to workout?

I assume I can take the other two (or three) capsules, one midday and the other one (or two) before bed?
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It is the carbs moreso than anything else that are the issue with the GH release. If the shake is low to no, I wouldn't worry about timing.

I too am concerned mainly for the Gh as I am doing a self prescribed TRT myself and wait about 45 to 60 min after breakfast to dose (I eat a moderate dose of carbs here). I then drive straight to the gym and am working out within 15 minutes after taking the dose. I am guessing the GH should be up by the end of the workout and that's when I want it. That and during sleep of course.

I think your proposed method with the shake would be just fine though.
 
Thanks bp.

Yes, I was under the impression that insulin (carb meals) were a deterent to endogenous GH release as well. Hence some opinions that suggest no carb meals before bed.

Ultimately I'll get whatever GH I can out of it doing my best to dose at appropriate meals and at bed time on as carb free stomach as I can.

Thanks again for the feedback.
 
very help full thread...


how are people taking the bulk powder? just 1/3 tbsp. put it in your mouth and wash it down with some water/juice?
 
I take it pre & post wo and right before bed. I use the powder & it lasts a while. Probably a little over a month. I get the Walmart brand crystal light & drink it w/ that. zero calories, carbs, & sugars...
 
CHAPS said:
I was on PowerFull for 14 weeks straight with no loss of effect, i just stopped because my stash ran out, lol.
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I did something like that with the old PowerFull.
And I got effects at just 4 caps a day on the old.
Just ordered some of the new PowerFull.
Will probably blow me out of the water at 4 caps.
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
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Wow. this debunks the old way. Just 20min before carbs as I recalled before, 3x a day.

Hell, I've been taking bulk PowerFuLL and Anabolic Pump 15-20 min before my meals together.

I guess I've been wasting the PowerFuLL according to your new dosing regimen?

Where did this 1 hour before eating thing come in? Shouldn't 20min. be ample time for absorption. Escpecially the bulk powder.

If this new scheme holds true...it does complicate dosing around meals..and ultimately it hurts my wallet if my ingestion of PowerFULL 20min. before my meals does nothing.

Most importantly I hope it doesn't inhibit Anabolic Pump when taken together, as I have started AP within the last few days.

-Grimface
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agreed, this does not bode well for stacking AP with Powerfull. If powerfull works best during carb depletion, and AP works best with ample carbs, both cant seem to effectively be stacked.
 
Carb depetion is not necessary. It is to be take on an empty stomach one half hour before meal. It can be taken with food (protein) but for the GH release it is ideal for it to be a carb from meal.

Dosing:

PowerFULL: 1/2 hr (30 mins) before meal on empty stomach
Anabolic Pump: 1/4 hr (15 mins) later, or 1/4 hr (15 mins) before meal
Meal containing carbs: 1/4 hr (15 mins) later
 
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