Post Your Next Cycle

jt339 said:
That second option looks monstrous. You better log that **** on here if you do it.
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haha maybe :p
Jasen said:
Geek yeah the second.optuon is nice also use something against prolactin like winstrol or Caber prami was horrible
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i got a ton of caber and winstorl laying around. ill prolly use caber as needed and keep winny for another use

thanks fellas
 
Prami was hell! Never again! But I never pu$$ied out ran it fpr like 2+ months. Sleep was **** after.taking it at night I felt dizzy 30 min later major mood changes and personality changes, the worse was it have me a zombie persona; no emotions!
 
Jasen said:
Prami was hell! Never again! But I never pu$$ied out ran it fpr like 2+ months. Sleep was **** after.taking it at night I felt dizzy 30 min later major mood changes and personality changes, the worse was it have me a zombie persona; no emotions!
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Yuck. Stick with caber. No negative side effects whatsoever and I could go a few rounds with the girlfriend without stopping :banana:.
 
I have posted this elsewhere, just trying to get more eyeballs on it and get any advise /opinions or thoughts on this cycle

Preload 2wk life supp. Fish oil and multi daily.taurine before WO

Epi 30 wk 1

Life support 6am 2caps
Epi 9:00 1cap
Fish oil w/ breakfast 9:30 1cap
Multi vitamin 10am 1tab
Fish oil w lunch 12pm 1cap
Epi 1pm 1cap
Epi 7pm 1cap
Fish oil with dinner 7:30pm 1cap
Life support 9 pm 2caps

Epi 40 wk 2-6

Life support 6am 2caps
Epi 8am 1cap
Fish oil w/ breakfast 9:30 1cap
Multi vitamin 10 1tab
Epi 11am 1cap
fish oil w lunch 1cap
Epi 4 pm 1cap
Fish oil with dinner 1cap
Epi 8 pm 1cap
Life support 10 pm 2caps

pct : Pct wk 7/8 tomax 20ml

Tomax 10ml morning 6 am
DAA 7am 3gm
Erase 1cap
Multi vitamin 1tab
life support 8 am 2caps
Activate xtreme 2caps
Erase 11am 1cap
Post cycle support
Activate xtreme 1am 2 caps
4pm Life support 2caps
Erase 1cap
Tomax 10ml 7pm
8:30pm Post cycle support 2caps
Fish oil w bf, lunch, dinner

Pct wk9/10 tomax 10ml

Tomax 10ml morning 6 am
DAA 7am 3gm
Erase 1cap
Multi vitamin 1tab
life support 8 am 2caps
Activate xtreme 2caps
Post cycle support 2caps
erase 11 am 1cap
Activate xtreme 1am 2caps
4pm Life support 2caps
Erase 1cap
8:30pm Post cycle support 2caps
Fish oil w bf, lunch, dinner
 
Daddydee said:
I have posted this elsewhere, just trying to get more eyeballs on it and get any advise /opinions or thoughts on this cycle

Preload 2wk life supp. Fish oil and multi daily.taurine before WO

Epi 30 wk 1

Life support 6am 2caps
Epi 9:00 1cap
Fish oil w/ breakfast 9:30 1cap
Multi vitamin 10am 1tab
Fish oil w lunch 12pm 1cap
Epi 1pm 1cap
Epi 7pm 1cap
Fish oil with dinner 7:30pm 1cap
Life support 9 pm 2caps

Epi 40 wk 2-6

Life support 6am 2caps
Epi 8am 1cap
Fish oil w/ breakfast 9:30 1cap
Multi vitamin 10 1tab
Epi 11am 1cap
fish oil w lunch 1cap
Epi 4 pm 1cap
Fish oil with dinner 1cap
Epi 8 pm 1cap
Life support 10 pm 2caps

pct : Pct wk 7/8 tomax 20ml

Tomax 10ml morning 6 am
DAA 7am 3gm
Erase 1cap
Multi vitamin 1tab
life support 8 am 2caps
Activate xtreme 2caps
Erase 11am 1cap
Post cycle support
Activate xtreme 1am 2 caps
4pm Life support 2caps
Erase 1cap
Tomax 10ml 7pm
8:30pm Post cycle support 2caps
Fish oil w bf, lunch, dinner

Pct wk9/10 tomax 10ml

Tomax 10ml morning 6 am
DAA 7am 3gm
Erase 1cap
Multi vitamin 1tab
life support 8 am 2caps
Activate xtreme 2caps
Post cycle support 2caps
erase 11 am 1cap
Activate xtreme 1am 2caps
4pm Life support 2caps
Erase 1cap
8:30pm Post cycle support 2caps
Fish oil w bf, lunch, dinner
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You're overanalyzing a bit. Take nolva 20mg for four weeks. Anything higher has never helped me recover any faster and lower than 20 slowed my recovery.
 
jt339 said:
You're overanalyzing a bit. Take nolva 20mg for four weeks. Anything higher has never helped me recover any faster and lower than 20 slowed my recovery.
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20/20/20/20? No tapering down? 20/20/10/10 is was what i was told Is the best dosage . I've heard of 40/40/20/20 but not what u are mentioning here. am I over analyizing just the serm in your opinion? Or u talking about the supps also?
 
Daddydee said:
20/20/20/20? No tapering down? 20/20/10/10 is was what i was told Is the best dosage . I've heard of 40/40/20/20 but not what u are mentioning here. am I over analyizing just the serm in your opinion? Or u talking about the supps also?
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taper. 40/40/20/20
 
ReyMan said:
taper. 40/40/20/20
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Ok Rey your the second person to tell me that dosage but please check this out: Invalid Link Removed and tell me what u guys think. I want no problems in my pct this is my first cycle, so I'm just trying to b secure, so let's get this straight once and for all, I don't want bad sides from listening to what some one "thinks" pct is important so anyone who " knows " definitely , please let me know. 20/20/10/10 or
20/20/20/20 or
40/40/20/20
 
GeekPoop said:
1-4 dbol 40mgs
1-12 test e 500
1-12 tren e 500
9-12 SD 20-30mg ED OR Epistane 30-50mg ED
1-14 Arimidex 0,50-1mg EOD OR Aromasin 12,5-25mg ED
1-14 Caber 0,5-1 mg E3D
me thinks
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Fixed !
 
Daddydee said:
Ok Rey your the second person to tell me that dosage but please check this out: Invalid Link Removed and tell me what u guys think. I want no problems in my pct this is my first cycle, so I'm just trying to b secure, so let's get this straight once and for all, I don't want bad sides from listening to what some one "thinks" pct is important so anyone who " knows " definitely , please let me know. 20/20/10/10 or
20/30/20/20 or
40/40/20/20
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Over the multiple cycles I've done, 20mg for four weeks has lead to equal results compared the dogmatic 40/40/20/20. You can use 40 for a couple weeks, but its not going to help you out any. But if it puts your mind at ease, do it that way.
 
jt339 said:
Over the multiple cycles I've done, 20mg for four weeks has lead to equal results compared the dogmatic 40/40/20/20. You can use 40 for a couple weeks, but its not going to help you out any. But if it puts your mind at ease, do it that way.
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20/20/10/10 is the dose I read about at Tuned I thought I was good with that , but ppl here have told me 40/40/20/20 would 40/40/20/20 leave me open for a bad rebound or no? If not ,I'll go with that. But if someone could let me know why tunedsports has 20/20/10/10 as the preferred serm dose?
 
T50 said:
As the title states, post up the next cycle you're going to run. I won't be able to cycle again until March so I have plenty of time to decide. Looking to see what some other people are planning on.
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I just stacked megavol and methoxyvol by chaparral labs, I'm on my post right now, I gained 15 lbs, stayed cut, and got pretty decent strength gains, my bench went from 255 to 295
 
Daddydee said:
20/20/10/10 is the dose I read about at Tuned I thought I was good with that , but ppl here have told me 40/40/20/20 would 40/40/20/20 leave me open for a bad rebound or no? If not ,I'll go with that. But someone if some one could let me know why tunedsports has 20/20/10/10 as the preferred serm dose?
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I got my information from tunedsports.com for my Epi cycle. Stop doubting yourself mate... You've done the research, you just need to trust the source! I went with the dosing - 20/20/10/10 . Higher dosing than this is used for stronger compounds.

Good luck with your cycle! If you ever start it..Lol
 
kansui said:
I got my information from tunedsports.com for my Epi cycle. Stop doubting yourself mate... You've done the research, you just need to trust the source! I went with the dosing - 20/20/10/10 . Higher dosing than this is used for stronger compounds.

Good luck with your cycle! If you ever start it..Lol
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I would rather play it safe here and see it ran at at least 20mg every week. I've seen pulse cycles of epi with complete shut down. No reason to risk full recovery. Besides, nolva is cheap anyway.
 
kansui said:
I got my information from tunedsports.com for my Epi cycle. Stop doubting yourself mate... You've done the research, you just need to trust the source! I went with the dosing - 20/20/10/10 . Higher dosing than this is used for stronger compounds.

Good luck with your cycle! If you ever start it..Lol
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Lol I know, but I'm not trying to procrastinate just double checking conflicting statements ( for my balls sake!) but thanks for the info , I've done research but also value ppl on AMs' knowledge and always run it up the flag pole to see if it waves!
 
jt339 said:
I would rather play it safe here and see it ran at at least 20mg every week. I've seen pulse cycles of epi with complete shut down. No reason to risk full recovery. Besides, nolva is cheap anyway.
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JT I hear what your saying, but your the only person since I been part of this forum or in any research that doesn't taper your serm dose down, but I do want full recovery, I know you playing it safe but there must be a reason ppl taper down off this ****. And anyone know what the consequence of taking too much tomax is?? is there any consequence ??rebound??I have two bottles on hand so I'm not worried about $$.
 
Daddydee said:
Lol I know, but I'm not trying to procrastinate just double checking conflicting statements ( for my balls sake!) but thanks for the info , I've done research but also value ppl on AMs' knowledge and always run it up the flag pole to see if it waves!
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All I can tell you is what worked for me. You'll find that conflicting statements will be never-ending and your flag pole a very tall one.. Lol.
My balls didn't shrink one bit, but I didn't go the high dose your planning to do.
I felt I had more sides from the tamoxifen than the Epi, so i'm not looking forward to dosing it higher in the future if I choose to use stronger compounds.
I think you've received all relevant information on here about your cycle...
Just make a decision for crying out loud..LOL
 
Daddydee said:
JT I hear what your saying, but your the only person since I been part of this forum or in any research that doesn't taper your serm dose down, but I do want full recovery, I know you playing it safe but there must be a reason ppl taper down off this ****. And anyone know what the consequence of taking too much tomax is?? is there any consequence ??rebound??I have two bottles on hand so I'm not worried about $$.
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Taper = broscience. No taper is my own personal experience. The taper is suppose to mitigate rebound, but using 40mg doesn't do anymore than 20 so you might as well just use 20 straight through as 10 might not be enough. I've advised people to use this protocol coming off real gear (still the protocol I use regardless of aas/ph/ds used) and test comes back fine every time.
 
LOL .... Epi... I dont think.u need pct for that weak stuff
 
GeekPoop said:
Didnt even think of ending with an oral, imma do that thanks bud :)

and yeah dosing ai / caber as needed, prolly will have to start week 3 or so
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I'm considering this as well. Have any knowledge about how well mdrol would work adding it in at the end of a cycle?
 
kansui said:
All I can tell you is what worked for me. You'll find that conflicting statements will be never-ending and your flag pole a very tall one.. Lol.
My balls didn't shrink one bit, but I didn't go the high dose your planning to do.
I felt I had more sides from the tamoxifen than the Epi, so i'm not looking forward to dosing it higher in the future if I choose to use stronger compounds.
I think you've received all relevant information on here about your cycle...
Just make a decision for crying out loud..LOL
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Lol ok decision made , thanks guys! See what I decided to do in the log! Coming soon! (I promise;))
 
Daddydee said:
Ok Rey your the second person to tell me that dosage but please check this out: Invalid Link Removed and tell me what u guys think. I want no problems in my pct this is my first cycle, so I'm just trying to b secure, so let's get this straight once and for all, I don't want bad sides from listening to what some one "thinks" pct is important so anyone who " knows " definitely , please let me know. 20/20/10/10 or
20/20/20/20 or
40/40/20/20
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I didnt say i think. Ive ran epi before and i tapered off of nolva
 
No Rey I agree with you on that point , I was just questioning your dosage, I dont want to overdo it. But I got it straight now, thanks for helping.
 
GeekPoop said:
Didnt even think of ending with an oral, imma do that thanks bud :)

and yeah dosing ai / caber as needed, prolly will have to start week 3 or so
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Trust me you'll love it for so many ways.

jt339 said:
I'm considering this as well. Have any knowledge about how well mdrol would work adding it in at the end of a cycle?
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SD is pretty much a unique steroid, so in the end not only he will gain bunch of LBM as always but it will dry him up and give him a more shredded and vascular look


- A head's up on PCT, 9/10 people in pretty much every board think PCT is the recovery itself and they cannot be more wrong about. They're trying to find magic formulas(aside from SERMs a bunch of useless crap - useless in comparison to what SERMs bring to the table) or huge doses with the necessity or some sort to recover in this 4-5 week SERM protocol. PCT is all about kickstarting the gonadotropin production(>leycid cells signal testes> testes start producing T) - full recovery (which depends on a great amount of variables) counting the 4-5 week SERM protocol out, usually comes in additional 3-6 weeks.
- As fas as Nolva goes , for most cycles the 20 | 20 | 20 | 10mg protocol (plus Clomid of course will do just fine) - in heavier cycles (meaning more and/or harsher compounds and/or longer cycles) i would suggest the use of higher Nolva dose like 40mg.
 
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