Poopy's Epi Log

good stuff, defineatly reduction in the gyno/puffiness there. I had pretty good results on epi, weight gain wasnt all there but ill fully admit thats my fault i wasnt pounding the calories like i should of. Ill be giving epi another run when 3ad or 11oxo comes out. Excellent results.
 
no i had lumps for sure and still have small ones BUT not nearly the hershey kiss sized lumps that were there before and still no pain or tenderness has returned. i cant wait to run it again and hopefully will see an extermination of what remains!
 
poopypants said:
no i had lumps for sure and still have small ones BUT not nearly the hershey kiss sized lumps that were there before and still no pain or tenderness has returned. i cant wait to run it again and hopefully will see an extermination of what remains!
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EPI RULES!!!!


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poopy, i have a couple off topic questions for ya. i'm on week 2 of my s.d/zol cycle. i started at 10mg s.d and 100mg zol and now i'm up to 20mg s.d and 150mg zol (beginning of week 2). i have this week and next week on s.d @ 20mg then i'm off and was wondering if it would be a good idea to throw the mega trn in for three weeks. i'm also running the zol for 6 weeks total at 150mg throughout.

i never experienced gyno from my prior two s.d cycles but am terrified of getting it with the trn. i'm worried that the presence of superdrol for three weeks might somehow make it easier for me to get gyno with the trn. with that being said, if i do get the early signs, i have some nolva/clomid combo on hand leftover from a previous cycle. can i take that (being that its a combo) if gyno rears its ugly head?? of course nolva is the general protocol but i have not seen anybody take a combo while on. thanks for helping out!
 
Hey poop, dont have time to read your whole log, just a few questions please:

Did you feel a diuretic effect at all on epi?? Loss of water, dry joints, cramps, back pumps, etc??

If/when you run it again, will you start higher say @40 day??

How was your aggression??

Where there any negatives for you??
 
sfearl1 said:
poopy, i have a couple off topic questions for ya. i'm on week 2 of my s.d/zol cycle. i started at 10mg s.d and 100mg zol and now i'm up to 20mg s.d and 150mg zol (beginning of week 2). i have this week and next week on s.d @ 20mg then i'm off and was wondering if it would be a good idea to throw the mega trn in for three weeks. i'm also running the zol for 6 weeks total at 150mg throughout.

i never experienced gyno from my prior two s.d cycles but am terrified of getting it with the trn. i'm worried that the presence of superdrol for three weeks might somehow make it easier for me to get gyno with the trn. with that being said, if i do get the early signs, i have some nolva/clomid combo on hand leftover from a previous cycle. can i take that (being that its a combo) if gyno rears its ugly head?? of course nolva is the general protocol but i have not seen anybody take a combo while on. thanks for helping out!
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i dont know that gyno would be you biggest worry with the TRN and if anything its gonna be the shutdown youll have to worry about... if you dont mind being active for at least a month or 2 after this cycle then you might go for it, youll need to make sure to run an equaly long post cycle therapy(at least 6 weeks with support supplements). BUT if you need to running the combo wont be a prob as long as your making sure to get the 20mg worth of nolva needed.

honestly what are your goals? if cutting then id say go for it, if your trying to bulk though then your best off saving the TRN for something wetter to match it with, either PP or m-tst. It gave me no weight gain BUT killer strength, i only think its worth taking with a serious weight gainer. its not worth taking it to just stay on longer if its not going to necessarily help you accomplish your goals and it could be better used later. ya hear me?

let me know though.



RoadBlock said:
Hey poop, dont have time to read your whole log, just a few questions please:

Did you feel a diuretic effect at all on epi?? Loss of water, dry joints, cramps, back pumps, etc??

If/when you run it again, will you start higher say @40 day??

How was your aggression??

Where there any negatives for you??
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yes i felt very dry on Epi, didnt have too much joint pain specially while i was mega dosing Cissus (check a couple posts up to see my dosing schedule) but for the week or so i wasnt taking any my joints started hurting (mostly shoulders and elbows and knees). not too much extra water loss or extra urination though and only had back pumps i think 2 times when i didnt drink enough water one day while working 13 hours in a hot attic.... coulda got cramps anyhow from that BUT also got it once while working out. that was it.

not IF but WHEN (:D) i take Epi again i will be taking it starting @20-30mg (still think its better since it will take a while to kick it anyhow) but then as soon as i "feel" it (this time was a week in) ill bump to and keep it at 40mg.... maybe 50mg in the last week. we'll have to see with this new version.

as far as aggression no, i was in a very good mood most the cycle and had a nice sense of well being but when it came to lifting i threw em up like i hated em worse then broccoli..... lol. in other words still had great in gym focus.

and as far as the negatives.... none, nill, nada, zip, zilcho, ZERO..... cept those 2 back pumps... i literrally didnt want to come off, was gaining 2 lbs every 3-4 days up till the very end and felt like a million bucks.... who would WANT to stop that? :thumbsup: but alas i knew it was whats best and i just didnt have anymore.
 
poopypants said:
i dont know that gyno would be you biggest worry with the TRN and if anything its gonna be the shutdown youll have to worry about... if you dont mind being active for at least a month or 2 after this cycle then you might go for it, youll need to make sure to run an equaly long post cycle therapy(at least 6 weeks with support supplements). BUT if you need to running the combo wont be a prob as long as your making sure to get the 20mg worth of nolva needed.

honestly what are your goals? if cutting then id say go for it, if your trying to bulk though then your best off saving the TRN for something wetter to match it with, either PP or m-tst. It gave me no weight gain BUT killer strength, i only think its worth taking with a serious weight gainer. its not worth taking it to just stay on longer if its not going to necessarily help you accomplish your goals and it could be better used later. ya hear me?

let me know though.
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i'm cutting and already have noticed a difference with the mega zol and the s.d vs s.d alone. five more weeks of this stuff and i think i'll be pretty damn lean especially if trn is added to the picture. of course my strength from the dro is through the roof. now when you are talking about post cycle, you say at least six weeks with support supplements. are you talking 4 weeks serm and extend the support supplements for 6 or are you saying the whole package should be six weeks long? also what did you mean by being active for a month or 2 after? did you mean running stuff as in post cycle for a month or 2? thanks for the feedback.
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sfearl1 said:
i'm cutting and already have noticed a difference with the mega zol and the s.d vs s.d alone. five more weeks of this stuff and i think i'll be pretty damn lean especially if trn is added to the picture. of course my strength from the dro is through the roof. now when you are talking about post cycle, you say at least six weeks with support supplements. are you talking 4 weeks serm and extend the support supplements for 6 or are you saying the whole package should be six weeks long? also what did you mean by being active for a month or 2 after? did you mean running stuff as in post cycle for a month or 2? thanks for the feedback.
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as far as the serm is concerned i would first suggest torem, that shii is worth its weight in gold and will get your nuts plump before you know it, but if your not noticing anything by the 3rd week maybe grab somemore, as for the rest then id just run maybe a low dose AI and some test boosters, maybe mass fx or just powerfull anything at all that will help you get back into commision. this stack will be great for cutting but its gonna shut you down hard. gl my man.
 
poopypants said:
as far as the serm is concerned i would first suggest torem, that shii is worth its weight in gold and will get your nuts plump before you know it, but if your not noticing anything by the 3rd week maybe grab somemore, as for the rest then id just run maybe a low dose AI and some test boosters, maybe mass fx or just powerfull anything at all that will help you get back into commision. this stack will be great for cutting but its gonna shut you down hard. gl my man.
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yeah i am ordering the rest of my pct. this week. i ran tor my last cycle and loved it the first two weeks then felt like my libido took a nosedive after that. i'm still up in the air for the serm. the rest would be massfx/hdx2, fenu, life support, and then the serm that i choose. anything else you'd add? i have a sealed bottle of activate laying around as well but thought that would be overkill.
 
sfearl1 said:
yeah i am ordering the rest of my post cycle therapy. this week. i ran tor my last cycle and loved it the first two weeks then felt like my libido took a nosedive after that. i'm still up in the air for the serm. the rest would be massfx/hdx2, fenu, life support, and then the serm that i choose. anything else you'd add? i have a sealed bottle of activate laying around as well but thought that would be overkill.
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some type of cortisol blocker.........
 
Super log, Poopy and very nice results also. Since Epistane seems so gentle on the liver, do you think it would be OK to run it longer? I mean... Long... Like 10 weeks?
 
word.... since hes the man behind BOTH of these.... i would think a low dose would still be great.... not exceeding 20mg in the first 4 weeks of epi and 300 of 3-ad..... then maybe bump it for the last 4???? hows that sound .... OOOOHHHH DR. DEEEEEEEEEEE-EEEEEEE
 
poopypants said:
word.... since hes the man behind BOTH of these.... i would think a low dose would still be great.... not exceeding 20mg in the first 4 weeks of epi and 300 of 3-ad..... then maybe bump it for the last 4???? hows that sound .... OOOOHHHH DR. DEEEEEEEEEEE-EEEEEEE
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DUDE! i am totally rocking the 900mg dosing of 3-AD! you know i like to do it HARDCORE!

but the epi is the question.......do we do 10/20/30/40/40/30/20/10?
or 40 the whole time?
dare we do more than 40?

poops, lets get this party started! tandem logs, man! :woohoo:
 
900!!!! i wish i could get enough 3-AD to rock that much!

although i got the Epi on lockdown :D..... i would think that especially stacked that mmore then 40 wouldnt even be necessary, in all honesty.

esp after running it that long then putting a larger load on your liver like that... dunno, it all truely depends on HOW toxic it really is.... we need tha D....

as for the LOG im down.... BUT i agreed with EST to try propadrol since there arent really any stand alone logs done on it as of right now, everyone is gonna be logging their 3-AD experience as i can see and i cant wait to get on it too and log it pooper style, but i think that the community can benifit from a good prop log too though since its non existant right now and so many are curious about it...... im so conflitcted right now.
 
Yeah run the epi at 40mg the whole way through, add some liver protection just because, add 3AD, run the whole thing 8-10 weeks... MUHAHAHAA... :D
 
I would:

wk1: epi 30mg, 3AD 300mg
wk2: epi 30mg, 3AD 450mg
wk3: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg (start the liver support in wk3)
wk4: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg
wk5: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg
wk6: epi 50mg, 3AD 450mg
wk7: epi 50mg, 3AD 600mg
wk8: epi 30mg, 3AD 600mg, MFX 2 caps
wk9: 3AD 300mg, Tor 90mg (120mg the first 3 nights), MFX 4 caps
wk10: HD2X 6 caps, Tor 60mg, MFX 4 caps
wk11: HD2X 4 caps, Tor 30mg, MFX 4 caps
wk12: HD2X 4 caps, MFX 4 caps
wk13: HD2X 2 caps, MFX 2 caps

Also in include a cort suppressant or at least some DHEA wks 10-12 (200,100,50)
 
YEAH YA! thanks D for helpin with our crazy plans :thumbsup: ... well not really crazy thank goodness to these safer supps.... :woohoo:

im def gonna do this...
 
ok ok ok. ill run 1500mg a week of 3AD and 60mg ED for 12 weeks. just send me some bottles and we`ll get this show on the road.
 
DR.D said:
I would:

wk1: epi 30mg, 3AD 300mg
wk2: epi 30mg, 3AD 450mg
wk3: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg (start the liver support in wk3)
wk4: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg
wk5: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg
wk6: epi 50mg, 3AD 450mg
wk7: epi 50mg, 3AD 600mg
wk8: epi 30mg, 3AD 600mg, MFX 2 caps
wk9: 3AD 300mg, Tor 90mg (120mg the first 3 nights), MFX 4 caps
wk10: HD2X 6 caps, Tor 60mg, MFX 4 caps
wk11: HD2X 4 caps, Tor 30mg, MFX 4 caps
wk12: HD2X 4 caps, MFX 4 caps
wk13: HD2X 2 caps, MFX 2 caps

Also in include a cort suppressant or at least some DHEA wks 10-12 (200,100,50)
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so i just add some sd in there week 1-3 and im all set!
 
poopypants said:
LOL to bad with the baby on tha way i wont be choppin any wood any time soon....
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haha thats some funny sh1t!!! i noticed your stats are pretty similar to mine. except i'm 2 inches shorter but otherwise pretty damn close. ive been meaning to ask you how your s.d cycle was besides the gyno popping up later on. how were your gains? and how did you run it? i'm verrry tempted to up my dose to 30mg next week but im still concerned with the presence of the trn. 20 is the highest ive gone so far...
 
due date is may 31st

as for the sd... NO BAD CHAD, PUT THE BOTTLE DOWN..... and sfearl i dosed it 10 20 20 30 i belive.... but that was solo, i dont know that id go to 30 till the last week, if at all. other then the gyno after and puffy/itchy nips while on, i had some pretty bad back pumps, one case of roid rage, a gang of strength and vascularity and gained 15 kept 10..... just wish it didnt have the gyno problems for me.
 
poopypants said:
due date is may 31st

as for the superdrol... NO BAD CHAD, PUT THE BOTTLE DOWN..... and sfearl i dosed it 10 20 20 30 i belive.... but that was solo, i dont know that id go to 30 till the last week, if at all. other then the gyno after and puffy/itchy nips while on, i had some pretty bad back pumps, one case of roid rage, a gang of strength and vascularity and gained 15 kept 10..... just wish it didnt have the gyno problems for me.
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damn see i haven't had any of those sides except one instance of back pumps but that was after dead lifting like 8 sets in a row then driving later that day for about an hour or two. BUT i've only run it up to 20mg and that was only two 3 week cycles. the 30 which would possibly be next week would be my last week of s.d. we'll have to see how i feel. right now i feel amazing though, i'm thinking about proposing to my brand new bottle of s.d maybe tomorrow. i love her..
 
DR.D said:
I would:

wk1: epi 30mg, 3AD 300mg
wk2: epi 30mg, 3AD 450mg
wk3: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg (start the liver support in wk3)
wk4: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg
wk5: epi 40mg, 3AD 450mg
wk6: epi 50mg, 3AD 450mg
wk7: epi 50mg, 3AD 600mg
wk8: epi 30mg, 3AD 600mg, MFX 2 caps
wk9: 3AD 300mg, Tor 90mg (120mg the first 3 nights), MFX 4 caps
wk10: HD2X 6 caps, Tor 60mg, MFX 4 caps
wk11: HD2X 4 caps, Tor 30mg, MFX 4 caps
wk12: HD2X 4 caps, MFX 4 caps
wk13: HD2X 2 caps, MFX 2 caps

Also in include a cort suppressant or at least some DHEA wks 10-12 (200,100,50)
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Add in 500mg of Test E weeks 1-8 and you got yourself a killer stack! :head: :head:
 
it wouldnt be so funny if you knew it was true.... lol, actually he closed and locked the doors 20min early right as i walked up and wouldnt let me order.... poop was pissed :twisted:
 
poopy,do u ever get sick of compliments for this log? Awesome dude!

would u mind letting us know the basics of what your diet was
cals, pro/carb/fat
 
lol, weeeeeeell now that you say it.... no it pleases me to know others find my log usefull, thankyou.:D

my cals were pretty high but not the exact same every day depending on my work. my ratio though on the other hand was pretty much decided by the type of meals i ate and it was as close to 40/40/20 as i could get.

a common day looked like this

breakfast1
weight gain shake (cal 841)
F 25.5g
C 109g
p 76g

breakfast2
eggs/yogurt&grapenuts (cal 613)
F 15g
C 86g
p 30g

Snack
jerky (cal 81)
F 1g
C 7g
P 11g
OR
Pro Bar (cal 180)
F 6g
C 16g
P 15g

Lunch
Chicken Breast/noodles (cal 363)
F 3g
C 43g
P 41g

Snack
can O tuna (cal 174)
F 2.5g
C 0g
P 38g

pre w/o shake(same as morn shake)
weight gain shake (cal 841)
F 25.5g
C 109g
p 76g

post w/o shake
pro shake (cal 242)
F 5.5g
C 21g
P 57g

Dinner
Steak/chicken/pork and noodles (cal 578/363/466.5)
F 14g/ 3g /10.5g
C 43g/43g/43g
P 64g/41g/60g

(sometimes) night time shake (same as p.w.o.)
pro shake (cal 242)
F 5.5g
C 21g
P 57g

totals
Cal ~3950
F ~93.5g (cal 841.5) ~21%
C ~335g (cal 1340) ~33%
p ~443g (cal 1772) ~44%

cool that was actually fun i had written most of this down but never added the values and checked the total macros for the entire day... just knew that most my meals met the 40/40/20 split and made up for more carbs in some meals with major pro snacks.... looks like im not doing half bad :thumbsup: thanks for asking!
 
DO you ever worry about the long term implications these drugs may have on you? I want to do another PH cycle or my first test cycle but i cant (at the moment) justify it, how do you find strength in your supplementing. Teach me the ways of the poop.
 
somewhatgifted said:
DO you ever worry about the long term implications these drugs may have on you? I want to do another PH cycle or my first test cycle but i cant (at the moment) justify it, how do you find strength in your supplementing. Teach me the ways of the poop.
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LMAO.... i honestly havnt done that many cycles myself and hadnt done one before this one for over a year.... the reason why im doing them now is to get back in and up to my norm quickly and hopefully a lil past... its really all about knowing how to eat and lift and this "supplementing" as you call it is only a little kicker to make all my hard work a lil more worth it.

i figure as long as i take my ancilleries and get regular physicals that this is far less harmfull then your typical 23 year old is out doing right now, getting sh!tfaced drunk and stoned and eating 2 times a day both from take out..... and im sposed to worry bout my healthy ambitions??? :D

i know you feel mostly the same but it was a great opportunity for me to get on this soap box ive been storing in the corner for an unknown reason... i can now use the soap and burn the wood.... lol.
 
fritzer said:
hey poop are you going to pulse for 8 weeks or just do it straight up??
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pulse???? you mean the proposed cycle above???? if (prob will) i do it it will most likely be straight up.... although im probally gonna do a lil diff.. with some dbol to start in place of epi for first 4-5 weeks and liver support throughout. :D
 
marshbomb said:
Add in 500mg of Test E weeks 1-8 and you got yourself a killer stack! :head: :head:
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YES! 3AD stacks very surprisingly well with dec or test. I though it would stack best with methyls, but man does it stack well with dec and test either one, and it only takes 300-450mg.
 
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