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Poopy's Epi Log

see thats the thing i havent been able to tell. Like its a large mass of tissue behind my nipple but its not like rock hard but its like nothing else anywhere on my body. I guess there maybe liek a marble size lump behind both and then fatty tissue around that?? Im not really sure, but if its cold and my nipples are hard u cant tell at all. Theres like a trace of the stuff to that run ups the inside of my pecs thats not noticable but can be felt. Im about ten percent body fat..Im just coming out of football season and have put on some bad lbs.

I dont think i wana get the surgery tho cuz after football im gonna drop a signifcant amount of weight anyway and thatll prob make it less noticable. Im gonna put pics up soon in my offseason log and you can see what you think. If i run an epi cycle though, it will def be pulsed and maybe no more than 20 mg.
 
a pulse will not exert any anti gyno action though just so you know.... you need a more constant suppresion of estrogen for any effects to occur. Preferably 20-30mg ed. In all honesty Im not a fan of the pulse method. In order to do it safely and not feel the yo yo effects it CAN (not always will) have on your hormones specifically estrogen you basically have to run a test booster and/or AI on the off days or alongside it altogether. So you basically run your PCT WHILE on cycle. The only benefit I see in doing this is the gains are almost always ALL kept (even though Epi gains are VERY maintainable as it is) and it allows you to run it for extended periods of time.

I still think though running it straight and doing a full and correct PCT will bring overall better effects (specially if your goal is est suppression in order to reduce gyno) and the PCT should be a breeze if done correctly.

I would reconsider running this as a pulse, you wont achieve the desired effects we have been talking about.

Sounds to me to be genuine gyno though and will likely dissipate if you get sub 10% bf BUT gyno fat, the kind thats tough like you feel extending towards your pit, is alot more stubborn and as I stated may eventually need surgery to be removed, the Lump will most definitely need surgery to completely be eradicated with how long youve had this and the size it has become by now and by doing this you will essentially remove any possibility of it reoccurring ever again (given your doc is well versed in the procedure and successfully removes EVERYTHING, this shii is one step away from a tumor or cancer... in fact it CAN develop into cancer, another good reason to have it removed)
 
Wait the actaul gyno fat tissue lumpieness behind my nipple will actaully go away if i drop body fat?? I had to look up dissipate by the way. haha. But im thinking of running the epi at sucha low dose first time out to just test my tolerance. ill prob run 6 broomo or atd or trione on the off days to avoid the moodieness. If a cycle of 10 -20 mg goes well ill bump it and not pulse it. I really dont wana run an extensive PCT first time out and wana avoid using a SERM if possible because the half life is so high. Also as of right now the only one i can get my hands on is clomid and nolva. I know torem is porb the best but ill keep looking tho.

As for surgery ill wait til after college for that... I thought that losing fat would make the puffness more noticable and stick out even more... As for the cycle tho, aside from possibly easing the gyno id like to put on some good gains
 
pavb10 said:
Wait the actaul gyno fat tissue lumpieness behind my nipple will actaully go away if i drop body fat?? I had to look up dissipate by the way. haha. But im thinking of running the epi at sucha low dose first time out to just test my tolerance. ill prob run 6 broomo or atd or trione on the off days to avoid the moodieness. If a cycle of 10 -20 mg goes well ill bump it and not pulse it. I really dont wana run an extensive PCT first time out and wana avoid using a SERM if possible because the half life is so high. Also as of right now the only one i can get my hands on is clomid and nolva. I know torem is porb the best but ill keep looking tho.

As for surgery ill wait til after college for that... I thought that losing fat would make the puffness more noticable and stick out even more... As for the cycle tho, aside from possibly easing the gyno id like to put on some good gains
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No not the actual lump/marble thing... thats alot harder to get rid of and mostly takes a SERM like compound, Letro to reduce if it can or surgery to remove, thats the actual mammary gland. The fattiness around it though and what you said goes to the armpit will lower with body fat reduction.

Puffiness is something diff altogether. I dont think its from being fat really... I was pretty damn lean when I first started getting gyno and the first thing that happened was my nips got puffy... I think thats more from hormones and the skin gets stretched over time... it basically also takes reduction surgery of the aureole's skin (actualy dark part, nipple) after the removal surgery is complete to get that look to be permanently gone... although sometimes it will be ok without the "skin tuck/removal"


Check this you tube vid and you can see what actual gyno docs do for you... I wouldnt just go to any plastic or cosmetic surgeon or whatever, go to a doc that specializes in gyno. it will be worth it for sure.


 
haha yeah that guys pretty big. Poopy how would u set up like a 3-4 day a week 4 week pulse. I really dont wana go over 20 mg first time out. Should i do week one at 10 then 20 the rest?? Also on the off days and PCT what should i do? As for the gyno, i certainly have it after veiwing the vids ill wait til after college to get cut. Ive had two surgeries in the last year and thats enough for me so far
 
poopypants said:
no i had lumps for sure and still have small ones BUT not nearly the hershey kiss sized lumps that were there before and still no pain or tenderness has returned. i cant wait to run it again and hopefully will see an extermination of what remains!
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Since I have not been completely familiarized with all the properties of Epi, but have been considering running it alongside my current cycle, or in the future as a bridge compound - would you believe there is a dose dependent effect where vascularity, muscle density, and most importantly gyno reduction is concerned? If so, where would you believe this dose dependent threshold maxes out, and you attain the optimal effects of each effect?

I have seen some reports of users taking 100mg/day (up to 10 pills every 24 hours) during their cycle, which for a 12 week recomp or bridge would easily cost $300 with current consumer prices.

I really enjoyed your log, and liked how you consolidated everything into one (albeit slightly abbreviated) post, so browsers can gain a clear perspective of your experience. Thanks for sharing and the great education on this great compound.

PS: I have read that some users claim certain batches of IBE's EPI is tainted, under-dosed, or completely bunk. I was a little confused, because I always assumed and have also been told by just as many others, that IBE is the premier legitimate source of Epistane in the marketplace. Please let me know your thouhts...
 
Poop,

I just discovered this thread, I read the first five pages, but I dont have time today to read all of them, if you dont mind can you state the results you had with getting the gyno to go away, any luck? Thanks, and I hope I didnt offend you by not reading all 26 pages of this before posting this.
 
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