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POLL - How many got gyno from Superdrol/clones?

How many got gyno FROM Super/Clones?

  • NO - I did not get gyno from Superdrol/Clones at all.

    Votes: 94 63.5%

  • YES - I got gyno and know it was from Superdrol/Clones.

    Votes: 40 27.0%

  • YES - I got gyno from Super but I'm prone to it/had it before.

    Votes: 14 9.5%
  • Total voters
    148
K i hate this company, but their "black label" Masterdrol 20 worked like crazy for killing gyno!!!!! Like 10x better than masterdrol! Well.. thats cause of the milk thistles estrogenic effects... but anyways, their "black label" is the ****! Lol, ya cant get it unless ya want to take a trip to minnesota.
 
Lol, ok no antiestrogens diffrent that any other cycle here. Just good ol superdrol. This guys first batch was the bomb, his next was ****. Fin! g@y ****. But before that, sweet stuff!:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
ok, well i'm now 5 months past end of cycle, no rebound gyno yet, not even much nipple itchiness :) I did 10 for 2 days, 20 for another 12 days, and 30 for another 12. pct was sustain alpha and toco 8 for 4 weeks
 
EasyEJL said:
ok, well i'm now 5 months past end of cycle, no rebound gyno yet, not even much nipple itchiness :) I did 10 for 2 days, 20 for another 12 days, and 30 for another 12. pct was sustain alpha and toco 8 for 4 weeks
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your lying to me............ no nolva/ai/test booster, multpack,nutsackpack,tittystopper,lactateblocker,prolactinkillinPCT?

NO SERM? you must have man titties. or still be shutdown........



Feel my sarcasm bro?

thanks for the reply. repped.
 
the thing is I had pre cycle blood tests that had me as over the top of normal scale on e2 (68 I think with range of normal up to 60) and testosterone below bottom of scale leaving me set as a TRT candidate. knowing that was also going to do a blood test after I felt I could take the chance, with a SERM on hand in case gyno symptoms developed, and if HTPA didn't particularly restart no biggie as I was already a TRT candidate and that doesn't really sound too bad all things told.
 
EasyEJL said:
the thing is I had pre cycle blood tests that had me as over the top of normal scale on e2 (68 I think with range of normal up to 60) and testosterone below bottom of scale leaving me set as a TRT candidate. knowing that was also going to do a blood test after I felt I could take the chance, with a SERM on hand in case gyno symptoms developed, and if HTPA didn't particularly restart no biggie as I was already a TRT candidate and that doesn't really sound too bad all things told.
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okay, not a typical situation in regards to superdrol use and pct protocol selection.
 
Okay, well I think the reason for this 'delayed' gyno is the typical PCT from when superdrol came out. I mean It's been a while but I think I remember back in the day the standard PCT was something like Nolva 40/30/20/10 and ATD 25/50/75/100. This is before we figured out that you should prob not use as much ATD at the end of PCT. So none of this ATD inverse to SERM. So people were ending there PCT with 3 or 4 pills of ATD which drove their estrogen into the ground. Which leads to an estrogen rebound.. That's my theory. Never took superdrol personally.
 
Ziquor said:
I seen some really old survey's similar to this but they were around when Super was new over 2-3 years ago. Post specific comments too.
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my man, you think it can be the clones causing it with the difference in the androstane ring?

5b instead of 5a?


i never got gyno from s drol from fast action at 20 mg
 
I got gyno from Methyl DX3...I know for a fact I got it from that. 2 and a quarter years later I'm still feeling the effect from that ph cycle. I've done plenty of ph cycles before that and this is the only one that ever effected me and it was the last ph cycle I ever did. I currently have been to the urologist and endocurnologist or however u spell it and my test levels are still low but slowly recovering. I used to be very square chested now I'm more rounded, I have a quarter sized painful lump under my right nipple, and I've had ed problems for a little over 2 years now but the ed problems are slowly improving. My Methyl DX3 dosage was something like week 1 10mg, week 2 20mg, and week 3 30mg or something like that I can't remember quite because its been so long but I want to say I did it for 3.5 weeks. My post cycle was liquid nolva and I was 40mg week 1, 30mg week 2, 20 week 3, and 10 week 4. I was guessing my post cycle was junk because you never know 100% what you are getting in those bottles labled "not for human consumption research purposes only" The doctors won't give me anything in fear of giving me worse side effects then I already have. It really sucks let me tell ya!
 
crazyfool405 said:
my man, you think it can be the clones causing it with the difference in the androstane ring?

5b instead of 5a?


i never got gyno from s drol from fast action at 20 mg
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Personally, hell yeah. Pat said something like 60% of the OTC hormones that he tested either had no hormone in them at all, or a whole different compound totally. With the lack of 3rd party testing from most companies who knows what's in some of these orals. Many companies can get a hold of progestinal compounds for really cheap, and legally. Is this why so many people get gyno compared to legit/scheduled orals? Who knows but may it be a part.

That said, there's only a few companies who sell hormones that I completely trust that they contain what's listed.
 
MuscleBound1337 said:
Okay, well I think the reason for this 'delayed' gyno is the typical PCT from when superdrol came out. I mean It's been a while but I think I remember back in the day the standard PCT was something like Nolva 40/30/20/10 and ATD 25/50/75/100. This is before we figured out that you should prob not use as much ATD at the end of PCT. So none of this ATD inverse to SERM. So people were ending there PCT with 3 or 4 pills of ATD which drove their estrogen into the ground. Which leads to an estrogen rebound.. That's my theory. Never took superdrol personally.
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I personally think ATD has a lot to do with it. Then again I'd never use ATD for anything.
 
Ziquor said:
I personally think ATD has a lot to do with it. Then again I'd never use ATD for anything.
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CELs m-drol has a 5b instead of 5a,

what you think bvout that? and pat has tested it for the correct compound.

you think it has anything to do with gains?:dance:

with that said the stability of the 2 rings are SOOO different from the looks of it,
 
crazyfool405 said:
CELs m-drol has a 5b instead of 5a,

what you think bvout that? and pat has tested it for the correct compound.

you think it has anything to do with gains?:dance:

with that said the stability of the 2 rings are SOOO different from the looks of it,
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Where was this test posted? This is strange because as far as Superdrol/clones go, when SNS made Methyl-Drol, they used the exact same batching as Designer Supps did for the original Superdrol.

Then when CEL began to manufacture M-Drol, they also use the exact same batching/sourcing as SNS, and Designer Supps. I've never personally never seen such proof or tests that a second isomer exists with Superdrol though.
 
Ziquor said:
Personally, hell yeah. Pat said something like 60% of the OTC hormones that he tested either had no hormone in them at all, or a whole different compound totally. With the lack of 3rd party testing from most companies who knows what's in some of these orals. Many companies can get a hold of progestinal compounds for really cheap, and legally. Is this why so many people get gyno compared to legit/scheduled orals? Who knows but may it be a part.

That said, there's only a few companies who sell hormones that I completely trust that they contain what's listed.
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so who do you trust, please, do tell.
 
Ziquor said:
Where was this test posted? This is strange because as far as Superdrol/clones go, when SNS made Methyl-Drol, they used the exact same batching as Designer Supps did for the original Superdrol.

Then when CEL began to manufacture M-Drol, they also use the exact same batching/sourcing as SNS, and Designer Supps. I've never personally never seen such proof or tests that a second isomer exists with Superdrol though.
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thats the new batch COA,

this is the one i have
2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol - 10 mg



which indicates a 5b ring


the batch number i have on mine i cant find specific info but the nomenclature is stated as this on the bottle
2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol - 10 mg
 
Nomenclature isn't typically a good sign of actual ingredients. After the US gov't threatened AX & the original Superdrol, most companies used etiocholan on the label more so to mis-lead, or not draw attention than anything. LG's original Masterdrol read etiocholan too but was indeed all 5a-androst. BTW Pat's chemical company tests all of CEL's raws to ensure they are legit & pure.
 
anyone know about the M-Drol batch with no lot number juss printed on the side

P8353
E0112?

legit or no, i havent seen a COA for it.
 
crazyfool405 said:
anyone know about the M-Drol batch with no lot number juss printed on the side

P8353
E0112?

legit or no, i havent seen a COA for it.
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Yeah all's good my friend. PA's lab tests all of the raw materials as soon as they're received. Then RTP, a second 3rd party lab, tests the product after it's capped. If anything wouldn't pass, it wouldn't be sold.
 
yea i figured, i just cant find a COA on it, so i dont wanna assume its just 10mg per cap,

my other bottles are 13.2 mg per cap. i need to know how much im taking. and there were rumors about a bad batch,

i think you had the same one i did ziqour howd it go?
 
crazyfool405 said:
CELs m-drol has a 5b instead of 5a,

what you think bvout that? and pat has tested it for the correct compound.

you think it has anything to do with gains?:dance:

with that said the stability of the 2 rings are SOOO different from the looks of it,
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Where did this 5b rumor come from? It really confused me, so I went and asked PA. He said there is (as usual) misinformation on the board. ALL 5b are inactive, so mdrol cannot be 5b.
 
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