Pmag and Formestane Stack Any Thoughts?

katch22

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Hi All

I'm planning on taking P-Mag for a 6 week cycle along with Cycle assist:

50/50/75/75//75/100

I was thinking of adding Formestane at the end of week 2 and run it for the remainder of the cycle
or do you think it will be better to run the Formestane along with PCT Assist for PCT!! I can get my hands on Clomid or Nolva if required. This is going to be my first cycle of any PH.

I have also just finsihed running DAA and C-bolic for 8weeks peroid and have to say impressed with the results ( Reduced body fat and slight increases in strength )but how long should I wait before starting the cycle of P-Mag?

Thanks for any advice or thoughts
 
Nice choice, I wish I did P-mag instead of H-Drol. I would atleast grab some Nolva or Clomind to have on hand.
 
I usually run it in my pct. I would definitely grab some nolva. Can't ever be to safe. Pmag is the **** by the way good call
 
katch22 said:
Hi All

I'm planning on taking P-Mag for a 6 week cycle along with Cycle assist:

50/50/75/75//75/100

I was thinking of adding Formestane at the end of week 2 and run it for the remainder of the cycle
or do you think it will be better to run the Formestane along with PCT Assist for PCT!! I can get my hands on Clomid o.r Nolva if required. This is going to be my first cycle of any PH.

I have also just finsihed running DAA and C-bolic for 8weeks peroid and have to say impressed with the results ( Reduced body fat and slight increases in strength )but how long should I wait before starting the cycle of P-Mag?

Thanks for any advice or thoughts
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Yes you could run a low dose of Form on cycle if you like, however i dont recommend going over 75 mgs on pmag or Hdrol. For pct go with Nolva and PCT Assist its a great combo


.....[check out celc5's Pmag log . I believe he ran Formestane thru his cycle also]
 
I ran two pmag cycles both with a formestane overlap into pct...they looked like this

pmag 75/75/75/75
form 0/0/50/100/100/50/25

pmag 100/100/100/100
form 0/0/50/100/100/50/50

i love that combo...good luck
 
bashman said:
Nice choice, I wish I did P-mag instead of H-Drol. I would atleast grab some Nolva or Clomind to have on hand.
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Why p-mag over h-drol. I know some people react better to one or the other, but they are almost the exact same compound. I know they are not though, so what is the difference in their makeup that make a difference in the body?
 
azIce said:
Why p-mag over h-drol. I know some people react better to one or the other, but they are almost the exact same compound. I know they are not though, so what is the difference in their makeup that make a difference in the body?
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i dont know all of the scientific stuff about them...but they are definitely not the same. I put on more size, better strength gains, and less sides with pmag. I also felt a lot more shutdown on hdrol than pmag. That is just me though.
 
H-drol is more anabolic less androgenic than P-mag. Better compound basically.

No need for formestane not sure why anyone would even recommend it.

Mw1 what exactly is your reasoning for adding a powerful aromatase inhibitor like form? Don't go over 75mg? That's going to drop his E to zero in about 4 days...

Once you start to slow test production around day 12 or so, there will be little if any estrogen being aromatized from natural sources. If I'm not mistaken, P-mag does not aromatise, you would basically be driving the little estrogen in your system into the ground. What exactly is your point for doing this?
 
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mw1 said:
^^^^Topical Formestane will not "destroy" estrogen levels at low doses on cycle(50-100mgs) but can be very useful in keeping gains a little "leaner", as well as boosting libido and testosterone.
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On someone with a compromised HTPA due to ingestion of an anabolic substance that does NOT aromatise yes it will! Think about what you are saying here.

Leaner? As a Nationally Certified Nutrition Counselor I will tell you this...

Whatever cycle one does (especially one with no aromatizing androgens) the outcome of body fat is determined by you DIET. The food you eat or do not eat, either to match, exceed, or fall below daily requirements will be the tell-tale of how lean or lack there of you become at the end of the day.

Thank-you
 
TripDog said:
On someone with a compromised HTPA due to ingestion of an anabolic substance that does NOT aromatise yes it will! Think about what you are saying here.

Leaner? As a Nationally Certified Nutrition Counselor I will tell you this...

Whatever cycle one does (especially one with no aromatizing androgens) the outcome of body fat is determined by you DIET. The food you eat or do not eat, either to match, exceed, or fall below daily requirements will be the tell-tale of how lean or lack there of you become at the end of the day.

Thank-you
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damn, trip-no way i can argue science with you my friend, but i had good results on hdrol/form.

besides the fact the op just ran a cycle of daa, the form would help with prolactin, right.

the formestane just seems to act differently than other ai's i have tried-imo it is much more than just an anti-aromatase. one hellova libido booster, and should help the dht.
 
thebigt said:
damn, trip-no way i can argue science with you my friend, but i had good results on hdrol/form.

besides the fact the op just ran a cycle of daa, the form would help with prolactin, right.

the formestane just seems to act differently than other ai's i have tried-imo it is much more than just an anti-aromatase. one hellova libido booster, and should help the dht.
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LOL. Well Form is a mild androgen in it's own sense, so would have some libido enhancement properties, more-so in someone with normal testosterone levels not compromised by mid cycle. It is said to interact with DHT levels also.
 
TripDog said:
LOL. Well Form is a mild androgen in it's own sense, so would have some libido enhancement properties, more-so in someone with normal testosterone levels not compromised by mid cycle. It is said to interact with DHT levels also.
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i have always been confused at how it can reduce dht and reduce prolactin at the same time. this seems at odds to me?
 
thebigt said:
damn, trip-no way i can argue science with you my friend, but i had good results on hdrol/form.

besides the fact the op just ran a cycle of daa, the form would help with prolactin, right.

the formestane just seems to act differently than other ai's i have tried-imo it is much more than just an anti-aromatase. one hellova libido booster, and should help the dht.
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Halodrol is not overly suppressive in nature being like a Turinabol varient. This is no question dose dependent however. At 50mg halodrol was shown to have little shutdown after 4 weeks. Once one takes the dose to 75-100+mg it's a whole different ball game. So depending on the dose, duration, and degree of shutdown, some users may be fine utilizing both Form, and Halodrol during a cycle run.
 
TripDog said:
Halodrol is not overly suppressive in nature being like a Turinabol varient. This is no question dose dependent however. At 50mg halodrol was shown to have little shutdown after 4 weeks. Once one takes the dose to 75-100+mg it's a whole different ball game. So depending on the dose, duration, and degree of shutdown, some users may be fine utilizing both Form, and Halodrol during a cycle run.
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that makes sense. thanks trip!
 
thebigt said:
i have always been confused at how it can reduce dht and reduce prolactin at the same time. this seems at odds to me?
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Prolactin is controlled by dopamine, the two regulate eachothers output. Dht is a metabolite of reduced testosterone.
 
TripDog said:
Prolactin is controlled by dopamine, the two regulate eachothers output. Dht is a metabolite of reduced testosterone.
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so how the hell does form reduce prolactin-i have been hitting my head against the wall trying to figure that out.
 
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