PJ Braun Leaves Prime Nutrition

My question is what happens to Seth Feroce? Does he go to Blackstone or stay with prime. Since PJ wants nothing to do with it and he brought on Seth, wonder what he does
 
So much happening in that world. First they drop the brand, then each other and this. Was surprised since I didn't think they had anything to do with prime in the last year or so
 
Tiocfaidh said:
interesting duracap owns shares in prime.

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Wow. They also mention Orchilean in that article as well.

It's scumbags like this that cause increased scrutiny and banning of stuff in the supplement industry.
 
This is interesting, prime has some great individual ingredients. Haven't seen anyone use run everything labs but the pump product doesn't seem all that bad.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
the Supp biz seems to draw them like flies to honey.
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Well, think how easy it is to make a buck off some clueless + desperate person. A friend of mine recently asked me if he should do SARMs and he's 20 years old and knows nothing about PCT, or what his HPTA is, etc.
 
ma70 said:
Well, think how easy it is to make a buck off some clueless + desperate person. A friend of mine recently asked me if he should do SARMs and he's 20 years old and knows nothing about PCT, or what his HPTA is, etc.
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you told him to contact dylan germoli right:18:

jk lol
 
smith_69 said:
you told him to contact dylan germoli right:18:

jk lol
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Honestly, he's a reckless kid so I gave him a lot of info then really, REALLY urged him not to do it. He's in the prime of his life and he wants to go hormonal.....LAME.
 
cheftepesh1 said:
Prime. Aaron and PJ walked away from prime almost 1 1/2 years ago. Still owned part though.
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We ( You and I ) had suspected PJ would leave Prime tho, he essentially said as much a long while ago in his videos so largely many likely knew this was coming he made it pretty clear he only cared about Blackstone Labs.
 
ma70 said:
Well, think how easy it is to make a buck off some clueless + desperate person. A friend of mine recently asked me if he should do SARMs and he's 20 years old and knows nothing about PCT, or what his HPTA is, etc.
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When they get sold next to the 'Fat Burners' and 'Testosterone Boosters', I don't doubt you had to talk your friend off the ledge :)
 
The_Old_Guy said:
When they get sold next to the 'Fat Burners' and 'Testosterone Boosters', I don't doubt you had to talk your friend off the ledge :)
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I had to pretty much quote the side effects of the scarier SARMs, like vision/blindness from S4. But hey, it worked.
 
So is Prime going down the tubes?

Funny as I thought High Tek was making their products....oh well..
 
BigGame84 said:
Prime Intra-MD is a great product.
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Their products are ridiculously expensive like Core's are. I have no prb. paying for quality but GDA'S/Intra Workout products for $50? GTFO. Better choices on the market for almost half the cost.
 
shockrock3 said:
Their products are ridiculously expensive like Core's are. I have no prb. paying for quality but GDA'S/Intra Workout products for $50? GTFO. Better choices on the market for almost half the cost.
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When they were on other sites it was different? There are cheaper options for many of their products, but buying direct always costs more.
 
shockrock3 said:
Their products are ridiculously expensive like Core's are. I have no prb. paying for quality but GDA'S/Intra Workout products for $50? GTFO. Better choices on the market for almost half the cost.
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I don't think Core's products are overpriced for what they are...there's plenty of room on the market for products in a wide range of price tiers.
 
De__eB said:
I don't think Core's products are overpriced for what they are...there's plenty of room on the market for products in a wide range of price tiers.
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The owner is a competitive bodybuilder, his products are geared more towards experienced people
 
So just saw on FB that John Meadows tested Intra EAA+ and it did NOT meet label claims. Less hydrovask and Teacrine. He also said he hasn't got one penny from the company for his formulations. I will no longer purchase anything from Prime anymore
 
John Meadows just posted on his Instagram account that he is not associated with Prime, that he has not seen a dime of compensation for his endorsement nor for his formulation of IntraMD, and that he spent his own money to have IntraMD tested for Hydromax and Teacrine, neither of which were found to meet label claims.

Damn.
 
Posted by John Meadows on FB

Please read:
I continue to receive questions asking if I am part of Prime Nutrition.

The answer is unequivocally no. I am not associated with them in any way, shape, or form.

For those of you who supported me and bought their products, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Unfortunately, I have never received 1 penny of the residual income I was promised for the delivery of IntraMD (which became Prime's flagship product) as a formulator. There were other major compensation issues between Prime and myself as well, but due to legal reasons I can't get into those.

There is a much bigger issue here that needs to be addressed though.
What is most disappointing, is that I was recently warned about the products with my name on them; that they likely did not have the ingredients (nor the doses) that were in the formulas I gave to Prime. My word is my bond, and I do not put my name on anything unless I believe in it. I know what it's like to manage a tight budget, and the last thing I want is for men and women to throw away their hard earned dollars on something that does not meet label claims, or worse, contain none of the listed ingredients as advertised in the products.

I wanted to know if this was true, so I spent a few thousand dollars of MY OWN money to have the products tested for 2 ingredients, for starters - Teacrine, and Hydromax. The testing was done by one of the most reputable labs in the US. On the first test we had a container of IntraMD EAA sent to the lab that was purchased from the Vitamin Shoppe. The results of the first test were well below label claim for Hydromax. This was the only ingredient I had tested due to expense. I then had a second test done on IntraMD EAA that was sent directly to the lab from Amazon (where it was purchased), to confirm and verify the first set of tests that were performed. I had hydromax tested again, and added teacrine to this test as well. What you see attached are the result's of the 2nd test. Needless to say it was another substandard result that validated the first.
- NO teacrine was found in the product.
- 44% of label claim for Hydromax was found.

These findings are a betrayal of trust that I gave to Prime and is not something I take lightly.
The manufacturer that made this product for Prime is DuraCap labs. The owners of this company were part owners in Prime until just a few days ago.
Many of you have voiced complaints over the last few months, but felt as if you couldn't really do anything about it - well I can. I will stand up for you and for what's right.
This is not a "gut feeling" or me lashing out. This is not a smear campaign. This is pure and simple fact confirmed by rigorous scientific testing that will hold up in court.
I believe that if I tested for the more expensive ingredients such as the branch cyclic dextrin in IntraMD, they would fail to meet label claim as well.
So there are the facts, plain and simple.

This industry is full of people taking advantage of others due to out of control greed. Think long and hard about who you support and do business with. I hope you, the customers are made whole with this information.

On a side note, the brand new majority owner in Prime is a man of integrity and has fought for our rights (he fought against protein spiking), and I believe he is the right man to clean this up.
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As far as how things got handled following Prime ( prior to EAA+ ) leaving vendors I had heard John got dealt a bad hand by some people who know him personally however the extent of this I did not know. Figured I would post this here.

BigGame84 said:
So just saw on FB that John Meadows tested Intra EAA+ and it did NOT meet label claims. Less hydrovask and Teacrine. He also said he hasn't got one penny from the company for his formulations. I will no longer purchase anything from Prime anymore
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EMG81 said:
John Meadows just posted on his Instagram account that he is not associated with Prime, that he has not seen a dime of compensation for his endorsement nor for his formulation of IntraMD, and that he spent his own money to have IntraMD tested for Hydromax and Teacrine, neither of which were found to meet label claims.

Damn.
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He posted it on his facebook page as well :X I see I got here late
 
Well I'm done buying Intra-MD. Might look into Matt Porters Intra that's on TN. Expensive but at least I trust it more
 
Glad I never bought any Prime products. When I found out Blackstone was affiliated with them, I steered clear.
 
BigGame84 said:
Well I'm done buying Intra-MD. Might look into Matt Porters Intra that's on TN. Expensive but at least I trust it more
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matt is a great guy. spoken with him several times years ago and very helpful as well
 
BigGame84 said:
Well I'm done buying Intra-MD. Might look into Matt Porters Intra that's on TN. Expensive but at least I trust it more
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I will unfortunately be doing the same going forward :(

Going to use their formulation tool and go with a custom version of plazma in a way using 30% peptopro, 70% hbcd with some electrolytes and eaa's and maybe get it in fruit punch - If its not that great maybe I can get some biotest flavoring to dump in it.

Anyone use their flavorings before can comment on them if so
 
Rob1882 said:
I will unfortunately be doing the same going forward :(

Going to use their formulation tool and go with a custom version of plazma in a way using 30% peptopro, 70% hbcd with some electrolytes and eaa's and maybe get it in fruit punch - If its not that great maybe I can get some biotest flavoring to dump in it.

Anyone use their flavorings before can comment on them if so
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No personal experience but I know you can get it flavored at different strengths by TN so if in doubt just go harder on flavor there.

And there's always Mio shots. Not a cost-effective flavor solution per se, but if you already have a big batch made up and bought from TN that came out weak it could certainly help.
 
Some info posted by Aaron about an hour ago now nearly the same time as John posted his post

My friend John Meadows just did a tough thing... Took serious balls. I support John, and this is something that I also take very seriously. Since my departure from Prime I've been very disappointed with the entire operation. Big changes are coming.


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Kati Martin Dagenais: Did you have the batches tested while you were there Aaron? Thanks
Aaron Singerman: Yes we did. This all transpired once I left.


Robert Howe Quinn: The faulty blends might have transpired after you left. You were there though for a while when he should have been paid, right? So are you going to make sure John at least gets his money and what he is owed? Just wondering? An honest mans work deserves his honest pay.

Aaron Singerman: I totally agree. While I was there John was paid, and anything I have to ability to do for making him whole, he knows I will do.
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Posted by Aaron and John is linked to it by Aaron; From my understanding btw Aaron and John were friends it was Aaron who brought him on or wanted to bring him on.

Just sharing this as it unfolds to go along with the other information.
 
Rob1882 said:
Some info posted by Aaron about an hour ago now nearly the same time as John posted his post



Posted by Aaron and John is linked to it by Aaron; From my understanding btw Aaron and John were friends it was Aaron who brought him on or wanted to bring him on.

Just sharing this as it unfolds to go along with the other information.
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Keep sharing away!
 
Rob1882 said:
Some info posted by Aaron about an hour ago now nearly the same time as John posted his post



Posted by Aaron and John is linked to it by Aaron; From my understanding btw Aaron and John were friends it was Aaron who brought him on or wanted to bring him on.

Just sharing this as it unfolds to go along with the other information.
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PJ has commented before he did not like the deal Aaron made with John particularly on PartitionMD and he talked as if he thought John was wanting too much money.
 
So Jared Wheat possibly taking over Prime...
 
Just got real. PeeJay on FB calling out John Meadows and saying he was a lazy POS. Never lived up to his contract with Prime. Never posted about the products.
 
BigGame84 said:
Just got real. PeeJay on FB calling out John Meadows and saying he was a lazy POS. Never lived up to his contract with Prime. Never posted about the products.
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Hmm John said he never got paid so if that is the case, no reason for him to "live up to his contract" and post about products lol.
 
Aaron Singerman: I do not use duracap, guys. Also, I'm ahead of this, as John informed me a few days ago... Third party testing will be posted soon for redcon. My
Manufacturer, Jared wheat, wouldn't ever do that.
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In a response about Redcon1 from Aaron on his FB page

PJ has also responded in a msg and in a video however there is simply put 3 angry parties and I will simply wait to see the outcome I hate to see all of this :|



Just to much speculation of he said and he said or he also said think we will need to see what happens down the road I assume this will result in a lawsuit but through the video with PJ and also other comments by Aaron and John even Duracap is the larger owner and it looks like they likely dropped John specifically or sounds at least what PJ has said but lot bad blood there so we may never know the truth.
 
Just been reading the comments on instagram.. people are now calling for cody and aaron clark to leave prime too


tagging galore in the comments section
 
jaredmus said:
interesting Evan centopani has a good head on his shoulders and he left a while ago
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Evan left for different reasons. One was he didn't want to be associated with a company that sponsored porn stars (former and now current) . Aaron stated Evan even got paid the remainder of his contract (over 6 figures) when he left.
 
Looking at my tub of Intra-EAA+ it says: "Prime Nutrition The Best or Nothing". I guess it's the latter
 
FireRescue said:
Evan left for different reasons. One was he didn't want to be associated with a company that sponsored porn stars (former and now current) . Aaron stated Evan even got paid the remainder of his contract (over 6 figures) when he left.
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You had me at Porn Stars. A supp company sponsored Porn Stars? A. Why? B. Which Ones! :D
 
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