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Picsss...did I take anything?

so to summarize : i agree you should have your diet on track before you delve into steroid use , for several reasons. but the amount of mass you gained naturally shouldn't have anything to do with the equation.


If the most amount of mass you can gain is 10 lbs naturally that doesnt sound to me like that person is ready for steroids. You should be able to gain mass before taking steroids otherwise what proof is there that you really do know what your doing? Size and gains naturally are a good indicator of how well someone knows how to train and diet.
 
spezzy said:
You should have run clen with a good diet before you cycled. I see a difference but it would have been way better. As others have said, good luck and get the diet in check.
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As far as I know, and as I`ve been reading and hearing from people I know who used clen, it`s kind of "dangerous", harsher than H-Drol in general...that`s why I picked H-Drol...it seemed like the safest one (and, indeed, felt NO sides at all).

Yeah, I got my diet in check again, will start to cut the fat to the % I was on my profile pic (would guess about 13%, really don`t know for sure) and try to maintain the max gains as possible.

Thanks for the GL ;)
 
yeah dude clen isn't even a steroid lol, completely different!

Anyway I can see the difference pretty easily, if you gained 14 pounds while losing off the midsection, it certainly worked.

Everybody is telling you that you look like crap and you're too small/fat to do steroids but the truth is half of AM isn't ready. I really wish everybody would learn more about weightlifting and diet before they started cycling but I've come to accept that steroids and impatience are absolutely inseparable.
 
There's some marginal improvement but why in God's name are you already cycling? You don't want to be messing around with endogenous test in the early going and if you've been working out for a long time you really need to improve your training not your biochemistry.
Seeing threads like this makes me start to wonder just how many noobies at the gym are already using this stuff but would never admit it to your face.
 
He doesn't look the same. There is a big difference in his delts and his traps. Love handles are smaller too. I would say worry less about your size and more about reducing your body fat. Cardio. Lot's of cardio.
 
HereToStudy said:
If you are comparing Hdrol to Clen, I highly recommend you keep reading.
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I NEVER compared H-drol and Clen! I was talking to the guy above, who told me to use clen clen to burn fat! And H-drol IS also used to burn fat! I know the difference between them and know Clen isn`t hormonal. The only "comparison" I made is that I would prefer H-Drol for burning the fat instead of Clen! If you have nothing valuable to say, then say nothing, there`s plenty of people here helping me out, don`t need YOUR "help".
 
AmericanJambo said:
He doesn't look the same. There is a big difference in his delts and his traps. Love handles are smaller too. I would say worry less about your size and more about reducing your body fat. Cardio. Lot's of cardio.
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Thanks man. I really did NO cardio while on cycle. I`m starting to cut this week. Let`s see how it looks when I shred the fat...
 
why are you guys being d!cks? If you don't have anything positive to say then there's no need to make posts bashing the kid. IMO you're arms, shoulders and chest def filled out a little more and your abdominal areas a little leaner...good luck bro
 
you put on a little size through your shoulders!you shoulda got a few months under your belt before using those types of supps tho!!would have gotten the same gains from food and workin out
 
McGee: If we're "bashing the kid" it's because in the real world outside of this forum side effects and lost investment of money in drugs has no soft side.

Taking your lumps here is always better than getting them under your nipple.
 
TestEinstein said:
McGee: If we're "bashing the kid" it's because in the real world outside of this forum side effects and lost investment of money in drugs has no soft side.

Taking your lumps here is always better than getting them under your nipple.
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I`m not complaining about what people say of my cycle, either it was a mistake or not. I`m complaining about people who are obviously trying to piss me off, who answer the thread solely to say "You should keep reading if you think Clen and H-Drol are the same" when I NEVER said that.

I was aware of the sides when I decided to run H-Drol, and that`s why I chose it, since is one of the mildest ones. And as I said before, I felt no sides, run all support supps, so I can assure I made everything right in these terms.
 
You don't sound ignorant of any of those issues, my issue was actually more to do with you using at a higher bodyfat and lower overall muscle mass than I would advise. It's generally easier to develop gyno at higher BF% and easier to gain naturally when you muscle mass is less developed, lessening the marginal benefit of steroid use.
 
LifterBR said:
I`m not complaining about what people say of my cycle, either it was a mistake or not. I`m complaining about people who are obviously trying to piss me off
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I wasn't trying to "piss you off," I was merely stating that they should not be compared. Please don't be so touchy. TBH, you would have been better off with clen, but in reality your diet sucks, which you admit. You should not be touching anything until that gets in shape. Which 90% of people on here will agree with me. I have some more fat then I should on me, and not at the level of muscle I want to start a cycle. That is why I am choosing to wait. You should have done the same.

But if your happy with what you got, then all the power to you man.
 
thanks for the points,and dont let some negs get you down!use it as motivation to work harder in the gym!!you should be able to get up to 220s before you platau and need anabolics but just be smart and youll be ok
 
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