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PES TechNO what have we here

Synapsin said:
We are still working on the stim preworkout. Sometimes it takes a while to make sure you have the best, most complete formula possible. We are not like other companies that have 3 new preworkouts every year.
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I was simply asking due to the fact natty said around September or October.. Not assuming your like everyone else :)
 
Synapsin said:
We are still working on the stim preworkout. Sometimes it takes a while to make sure you have the best, most complete formula possible. We are not like other companies that have 3 new preworkouts every year.
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Hopefully it wont make it feel like my heart is pounding out my stomach like enhanced did!
 
The Solution said:
Hopefully it wont make it feel like my heart is pounding out my stomach like enhanced did!
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I think we're both in agreement here lol I want, or rather need, a good preworkout that enhances focus. I value that above all stims and pumps no doubt
 
Enhanced had a lot of mixed reviews. One of the reasons it was DQ'ed.
 
Bryancap77 said:
I was simply asking due to the fact natty said around September or October.. Not assuming your like everyone else :)
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That wasn't at all what I meant, apologies! I just meant so people in general don't think we're just laying around and doing nothing.

The Solution said:
Hopefully it wont make it feel like my heart is pounding out my stomach like enhanced did!
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Our new product will be fantastic, and we will make sure it isn't too extreme.
 
Synapsin said:
That wasn't at all what I meant, apologies! I just meant so people in general don't think we're just laying around and doing nothing.



Our new product will be fantastic, and we will make sure it isn't too extreme.
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nah make it extreme :) i miss lifting for 4 hours straight insane volume feeling euphoric with every set lol *cough* spiked purple candy grape magic *cough*
 
The Solution said:
i am stim weak, enhanced blew me away. i mean literally.
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This may sound pretty intense, but it made me feel like I was deathly ill. Cold shakes and cold sweats for an entire day, I must have some sort of intolerance to an ingredient. The only other preworkout that comes close to such a negative effect is the new version of hypermax, about killed me. And this is coming from a guy that went through about 12 tubs of craze, 3 scoopin the whole time :P
 
Bryancap77 said:
This may sound pretty intense, but it made me feel like I was deathly ill. Cold shakes and cold sweats for an entire day, I must have some sort of intolerance to an ingredient. The only other preworkout that comes close to such a negative effect is the new version of hypermax, about killed me. And this is coming from a guy that went through about 12 tubs of craze, 3 scoopin the whole time :P
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Not good at all! Hopefully the new product is much more nicer to you. I know the brain trust will ensure it's a product all stim fans can enjoy.
 
So many bad experiences with the Enhanced stims makes me sad

Means it is likely changing and it was hands down my favourite stim from any product
 
Bryancap77 said:
This may sound pretty intense, but it made me feel like I was deathly ill. Cold shakes and cold sweats for an entire day, I must have some sort of intolerance to an ingredient. The only other preworkout that comes close to such a negative effect is the new version of hypermax, about killed me. And this is coming from a guy that went through about 12 tubs of craze, 3 scoopin the whole time :P
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Honestly i remember texting cooper when i tried it
i was hitting legs in pittsburgh at the time, and my heart was pounding to no extent. My mood and focus was unreal, honestly i was in the zone. i felt stimmed for nearly 4-5 hours, but holy crap my heart was pounding beyone beleief i felt like i was on some GOOD STUFF haha
 
Driven2lift said:
So many bad experiences with the Enhanced stims makes me sad

Means it is likely changing and it was hands down my favourite stim from any product
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Have no fear:) Based on every other product PES has released and re-released, I have no doubt the next stim-pre will be even better.
 
The Solution said:
Honestly i remember texting cooper when i tried it
i was hitting legs in pittsburgh at the time, and my heart was pounding to no extent. My mood and focus was unreal, honestly i was in the zone. i felt stimmed for nearly 4-5 hours, but holy crap my heart was pounding beyone beleief i felt like i was on some GOOD STUFF haha
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I can confirm this, had one session exactly like this (Energy wise and decent focus), while other times it always gave me dirty as hell energy or died off straight away lol then no focus and anxiety was pretty bad sometimes to hit or miss for me
 
T-Bone said:
Enhanced was some great stuff.
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don't you normally hate y? Or aY? I'm surprised you loved it lol. It was extremely powerful. I hope the new one still has a strong CLEAN stim feel.
 
Afi140 said:
don't you normally hate y? Or aY? I'm surprised you loved it lol. It was extremely powerful. I hope the new one still has a strong CLEAN stim feel.
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Yes, but not Enhanced. It worked well for me. Alphamine is what kills me. I really do hope the new one in yohimbine free though. I don't know though PES seems to love different forms of Y...
 
I never got to try US Enhanced, UK one is good but nothing like some of the experiences I've heard about the US one.

Like T-bone most Y is a killer to me though.
 
andrew732 said:
hopefully there is a more innovative stim than yohimbine
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Tough task these days. You would think There has to be something natural though that would make a suitable alternative. Not many ingredients have more varying responses across the board than yohimbine. Some extracts kill me and some feel great.
 
xhrr said:
Tough task these days. You would think There has to be something natural though that would make a suitable alternative. Not many ingredients have more varying responses across the board than yohimbine. Some extracts kill me and some feel great.
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This was our issue with Enhanced, as demonstrated by this thread.

Some people, myself included rated it as one of the best pre workouts ever made. I loved that I could use a whole tub and not need to change the dosage, unlike a lot of other stimulants. It was also nice that if I took a break and went back to it, it would hit me as hard as it did the first time I took it (unlike DMAA, irrespective of how long I took away from it).

Unfortunately, some people just reacted very poorly to it. Sometimes due to sensitivity to yohimbe and sometimes simplynot assessing tolerance first.

Either way, it was our most complained about product so we made the decision to discontinue it.

One of the big issues with pre workout products is fighting the battle between using strong enough stimulants that people want to buy it yet stay compliant. As a category it is all too common for people to rate products which are nothing more than a blend of non compliant stimulants in a tub lol.
 
bdcc said:
This was our issue with Enhanced, as demonstrated by this thread.

Some people, myself included rated it as one of the best pre workouts ever made. I loved that I could use a whole tub and not need to change the dosage, unlike a lot of other stimulants. It was also nice that if I took a break and went back to it, it would hit me as hard as it did the first time I took it (unlike DMAA, irrespective of how long I took away from it).

Unfortunately, some people just reacted very poorly to it. Sometimes due to sensitivity to yohimbe and sometimes simplynot assessing tolerance first.

Either way, it was our most complained about product so we made the decision to discontinue it.

One of the big issues with pre workout products is fighting the battle between using strong enough stimulants that people want to buy it yet stay compliant. As a category it is all too common for people to rate products which are nothing more than a blend of non compliant stimulants in a tub lol.
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Introducing the next generation, in short lived pre workouts! drum roll...

FDA Rage Extreme

Non compliant Matrix

- N,alpha-Diethylphenylethylamine
- Dendrobium twig powder
- purple dye, grape flavoring
- beta-PEA
- Cocaine
- Ben cousins extract

WARNING ALWAYS TAKE 10 SCOOPS FOR BEST ENERGYZ
 
T-Bone said:
Yes, but not Enhanced. It worked well for me. Alphamine is what kills me. I really do hope the new one in yohimbine free though. I don't know though PES seems to love different forms of Y...
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lol, that's odd. And if I recall, Norcodrene is great for you as well, correct?
 
I love Y, call me odd but I love it :D
 
bdcc said:
This was our issue with Enhanced, as demonstrated by this thread. Some people, myself included rated it as one of the best pre workouts ever made. I loved that I could use a whole tub and not need to change the dosage, unlike a lot of other stimulants. It was also nice that if I took a break and went back to it, it would hit me as hard as it did the first time I took it (unlike DMAA, irrespective of how long I took away from it). Unfortunately, some people just reacted very poorly to it. Sometimes due to sensitivity to yohimbe and sometimes simplynot assessing tolerance first. Either way, it was our most complained about product so we made the decision to discontinue it. One of the big issues with pre workout products is fighting the battle between using strong enough stimulants that people want to buy it yet stay compliant. As a category it is all too common for people to rate products which are nothing more than a blend of non compliant stimulants in a tub lol.
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Well said. I've actually always tolerated PES products containing Y very well so your guys extracts IME have been good to go but others have me shaking like I have Parkinson's and cold sweating.
 
Jiigzz said:
I love Y, call me odd but I love it :D
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i think a lot of people do, but some are just misinformed on how to dose it or how much to start with. Some people never go on the side of caution and think more is better when Y in high amounts as seen can have vicious side effects. Always safe to go on the side of caution and start at a lower dose of Y and work up just like any other product.
 
"bad experience with enhanced" crew checking in. glad to see it discontinued. fingers crossed for awesomeness with new pre.
 
there is definitely a stim or a group of stims which in the right formula is so far unbeaten in my experience. including it in a product instead of 500mg amp-citrate led to cutting the caffeine dosage by half,, yet having a stronger and smoother feel.
before testers were using 500mg amp, 380mg caffeine, now they are using this stim with 190mg caffeine and most are only using half to 3/4 serving. so some guys are only using 100mg caffeine and still getting profound effects in terms of energy. i was really surprised when i heard that it had turned out thaat way.
 
redman24 said:
there is definitely a stim or a group of stims which in the right formula is so far unbeaten in my experience. including it in a product instead of 500mg amp-citrate led to cutting the caffeine dosage by half,, yet having a stronger and smoother feel. before testers were using 500mg amp, 380mg caffeine, now they are using this stim with 190mg caffeine and most are only using half to 3/4 serving. so some guys are only using 100mg caffeine and still getting profound effects in terms of energy. i was really surprised when i heard that it had turned out thaat way.
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Wat?
 
replacing amp with a different stim increased the strength despite lowering the caffeine in a preworkout durig testing. the finished formula is now stronger, despite having less caffeine.
 
redman24 said:
replacing amp with a different stim increased the strength despite lowering the caffeine in a preworkout durig testing. the finished formula is now stronger, despite having less caffeine.
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I enjoy amp but it's not compliant and has already been in hot water. They aren't going to use AMP. So are you referring to a pre you use perhaps? Not really following you here.
 
Afi140 said:
I enjoy amp but it's not compliant and has already been in hot water. They aren't going to use AMP. So are you referring to a pre you use perhaps? Not really following you here.
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I believe he is saying there is a new stim he is using that is stronger than the amp formulation even with less caffiene.

The reformulated clearshot blew the doors off any other stim I have ever used. No other formulation had the same ingredients
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I believe he is saying there is a new stim he is using that is stronger than the amp formulation even with less caffiene. The reformulated clearshot blew the doors off any other stim I have ever used. No other formulation had the same ingredients
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I heard :( they shut that down quick. I never got to try it.
 
I have varying experiences with Y. I still have 2 tubs of enhanced and some days it's great, others it gives me a headache and anxiety. Same with alphamine. It's not that it's too strong as much as it feels like dirty energy, like the old AX fat burner. Tweaking and teeth grinding. I don't care as much about the stim as the whole package.

I really enjoy basic but proven ingredients. Condense is a solid preworkout for me, 1.5 scoops and g2g
 
I have 3 tubs left of Fruit Punch Enhanced and I wondered why I respond better to the yellow powdered one vs the purple powdered one, I had no idea there was a different US/EU version, I thought I must have got a bad batch. I see the EU version has no Y & less calcium content.

I agree with a few of the above posts re the dirty energy, I only get that from the Y version. EU version is really good. I hope TechNO can match it.
 
Unfortunately I loved Enhanced too.. It was in my top favorite pre's of all time.. I know PES will kill it with techNO
 
804 said:
Unfortunately I loved Enhanced too.. It was in my top favorite pre's of all time.. I know PES will kill it with techNO
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TechNO is High Volume FYI.

The next pre-workout coming out is still in the works.
 
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